chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

(If you register a free account you won't see all these ads!)
Gioachino Greco vs NN
Unknown (1620), unknown
King's Gambit: Accepted. Becker Defense (C34)  ·  1-0
ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

explore this opening
find similar games 78 more Greco/NN games
sac: 6.Nxg5 PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: To flip the board (so black is on the bottom) press the "I" key on your keyboard.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Mar-06-03  Cyphelium: 5.- Bg7 looks playable.
Mar-06-03  drukenknight: Right, sacking the KN is one way to go. There are also lines that involve sacking the QB, which produces much the same thing.

Then there is that "wrap around" thingie with the two diagonal attackers (Q/B) sort of wrapping around each other. Have you seen that one Cyph? The white q gets to h5 and it looks like the K will come out and be safe but then Bxg5 or Bg5 will spear K/Q.

THat one is always fun if you study the board carefully sometimes you can pull it off.

...Bg7 does look okay. I've seen that quite a few times. There is the danger of Ne5...

Jun-05-03  Elrathia Kingi: What happens if 6...hxg5 instead of fxg5?
Jun-05-03  sleepkid: oh, you know, boring stuff. . . black wins. . . but this is so much more exciting. hahah.
Dec-29-03  shark62: 6... hxg5 7 bxg8 ..rxg8 8 qh5+..ke7
9hxg5 and black is busted
Sep-13-04  Knight13: Taking the knight is a blunder. 6... h5 would be better.
Dec-29-04  chessdr: <shark62> Your line is unclear, black's position is a mess but he is up a piece for a pawn. Both sides are undeveloped, and white has no immediate mate or other crush. 9. ... Rxg5 looks playable to me.

In any event I think 6. hxg5 is better than the game continuation. E.g. 6. ... fxg5 (or f5) 7. Ne5 with unstoppable threats.

If 6. ... h5 7. g6 with the better position.

After 6. ... h5 white can also speculate with 7. Ne5!?, e.g. 7. ... fxe5 8. Rxh5 Nh6 (8. ... Rxh5 9. Qxh5+ leads to mate) 9. gxh6 d6 10. d4 and I prefer white's attack; or 7. ... Qe2 8. Bf7+ Kd8 9. Ng6 and white ends up the exchange after 9. ... Qxf7 10. Nxh8 and 11. Qxh5, or up a piece after 9. ... Qxe4+ 10. Qe2 Qxe2+ 11. Kxe2 Rh7 12. Bxg8 Rg7 13. Nxf8 Rxg8 14. Nh7.

Jan-05-05  Whitehat1963: Just once I want to do this (or something similar) to my opponent! And I wish Greco had played Morphy about 1,000 times. Chess might look very different than it does today.
Jan-17-05  Jaymthegenius: I am rated close to 2250 on Chess21.com and not even I have seen Nxg5! I would play d4 in place of.
Jan-20-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  InspiredByMorphy: <Jayme> You undermine the strength of 6.Nxg5 . 6.d4 would have been weak and passive. I assume your looking at 6. ...hxg5. As shark62 pointed out above 7.Bxg8 Rxg8 8.Qh5+ Ke7 9.hxg5 and black s king is hopelessly exposed. 6.Nxg5 simply wins.
Jan-28-05  Jaymthegenius: I never said that it was a bad move, only that if I were in this situation before studying this game that I would play 6.d4
Feb-09-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  InspiredByMorphy: Above I said 6.Nxg5 simply wins. It gives white an advantage but it is not simple to win after further review of 6. ...hxg5 7.Bxg8 Rxg8 8.Qh5+ Ke7 9.hxg5 Rxg5 and black stays in the game a piece up but with an exposed king. The move which wins is 6.Ne5!
Mar-02-05  chessdr: <InspiredByMorphy>, I agree, 6. Ne5! is a pretty quick win, better than 6. Nxg5 or 6. hxg5.
Mar-02-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  InspiredByMorphy: <chessdr> Its too bad black didnt play the main line 5. ...Bg7 . It would have been interesting to see Greco's response.
Jul-01-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Richard Taylor: Yes 6 Ng5 isn't clear whereas Ne5 is a clear win even -

In the line with fxg5 -not so clear...probably strong for White but Black is a piece up etc

Aug-11-05  SEMENELIN: AT 6. Nxg5 fxg5 THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN 6.Nxg5 hxg5
Oct-20-05  DeepBlade: Waaaay to many pawn moves by Black, I guess thats the reason he lost.
Feb-03-06  Z.Ramsay: MY GOD!! NO WONDER this guy has the highest rate of winning sacrifices in the database!
Jan-24-07  LaSmitedCrab: heh.
hehehehe
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Okay, Im done. What a fun game. In teh beast collection. :)

Sep-19-07  wolfmaster: <DeepBlade> The only two pieces that NN moved were his king and his pawns. Talk about neglecting development...
Feb-03-08  JMJ565X: hey jaym i play at yahoo.com n i want a match
Oct-08-08  just a kid: How not to play the King's gambit.
Jun-22-11  Llawdogg: That was quick!
Jul-12-11  squaresquat: Pawn chains should be a source of strength;e6-d5;c6-d5.Close,tight,compact;connect- ed with a positional scheme.Black's chain is floating;powerless to keep it's easy gain. White's sensible, conservative,play set's him up to demolish the chains of liberalism.
Oct-03-15  The Kings Domain: Delightful little charmer. :-)
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No posting personal information of members.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.


NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
Spot an error? Please submit a correction slip and help us eliminate database mistakes!
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)

Featured in the Following Game Collections [what is this?]
BobgJ's favorite games
by BobgJ
KGA Becker Def (C34) 1-0 Sac Nxg5 like clockwork
from King Cotton is King by fredthebear
King's Gambit - Almost a Scholar's Mate
from Accepted Gambit Wins by White by Hvalros
K's Gambit: Accepted. Becker Def (C34) 1-0 Famous N sacrifice
from Legall's Checkmates Kingside and Queenside by fredthebear
KGA
from Traps by MorphyMatt
Traps in the Opening - Open Games (1.e4 e5)
by Pawn29
king`s gambit accepted
from maheshml's favorite games by maheshml
Game collection: KGA
by Jabot
sacrifício cavalo
from melhor de Greco by toso51
wolfmaster's game record
by wolfmaster
new collection
by nadvil
great mate
from mirunik's mated games by mirunik
Don't over protect!
from Greco's best! by chesswonders
How Not to Play King's Gambit
from Chessmen's favorite games by Chessmen
nice2
from SuperGMCheckIIIau's favorite games by SuperGMCheckIIIau
equanimus' favorite games
by equanimus
Check mate II
by popski
KGA. Becker Defense.
from MKD's King's Gambit by MKD


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2018, Chessgames Services LLC