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|Nov-24-05|| ||dakgootje: lol strangely i missed that it is Thanksgiving today.|
<JohnBoy> I agree with you on one point and disagree on one...Agreed that im also not very proud about some things of my country's history and actions. But I am very glad that Im NOT american :-)
Back on topic again: nice game with quite a struggle for white to promote the pawn
|Nov-24-05|| ||dzanone: Why not go to the only source we have, two participants, William Bradford and Edward Winslow, both Mayflower Pilgrims. http://www.pilgrimhall.org/1stthnks... They had just survived a horrendous winter, 51 dead out of 102 original settlers. They met Squanto, a native who had been kidnapped, sent to England, became a Christian there, and learned the language. With his help they were able to produce a good harvest. They celebrated and thanked God for their deliverance and a large bunch of Indians showed up. Seeing there wasn't enough food, the Indians went into the woods and came back with some deer. It lasted 3 days. They got along well. Shortly afterwards, they agreed to a peace treaty that lasted about 50 years. But that ended with King Philip's war in 1675. That is a fascinating story, starting with a murder, a trial, a triple hanging, and escalation into the bloodiest war(with respect to population) in the history of America.|
|Nov-24-05|| ||backyard pawn: Nice how Macieja gave Zapata the boot. The power of White's advanced b-pawn: Black cannot capture either a- or h-pawn, and can't defend its own e-pawn! Impressive ending by White. Happy Thanksgiving!|
|Nov-24-05|| ||euripides: The ending would be drawn without the a pawns. After forcing the exchange of pawns with 67 g4 (as <an englishman> says, assuming it's sound) Macieja uses zugzwang on move 72 to win the e pawn and get his king to c6. If Black then checks on the files the king goes to the a file exploiting the shelter offered by the pawns. There are a couple of apparently unnecessary moves moves 76-77, as if he was still working the win out.|
|Nov-24-05|| ||weisyschwarz: <John Boy> "proud to be an American". Are you saying the bloody oppression, and myth-telling are justified?|
|Nov-24-05|| ||JohnBoy: <dakgootje> - I see no disagreement. I am glad to be where I am and you are glad to be somewhere else. I've lived in various parts of the US and visited or lived in at least 25 nations in quite different parts of the world. So I have a lot to consider when I compare. Every place has its problems and history. Tell me where you're from and a chances are that a few moments of research will yield lots of skeletons in your closets.|
<weisyschwarz> - "proud to be an American" are not my words. Don't play silly little games to waste my time. You just made my ignore list.
|Nov-24-05|| ||Knight13: One nice TurkeyGiving game!|
|Nov-24-05|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: <JohnBoy> Perhaps you mean to say that you are glad to live on American soil (concerning living conditions, etc.)? If so, that would explain the misunderstandings between you, <dakgootje> and <weisyschwarz>. Saying that you are glad to be an American obviously means something quite different.|
|Nov-24-05|| ||avidfan: The most critical part of the endgame occurs at move 51...a5-a4 . White's task may have been made easier by 52.Kh2 denying black rook access to g3.
The black rook would then have to defend against a passed pawn from the front not the rear as occurred in the actual game.|
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The position after move 71...Kg7-h7 72.h6! is an important one to note involving the black king in the so called neutral zone (h7,g7).
71...Kg7-f7 is a big mistake as it allows 72.Rh8 when black cannot take the passed pawn by 72...Rxb7 since 73.Rh7+ skewers the king and wins the rook.
The king must not leave this area as he must guard against the white rook checking at h8. If black blundered with 72...Kxh6 the pawn is promoted next move.
This ending is similar to Griffith - Hammond; Richmond, 1912.
|Nov-24-05|| ||Granite: <weisyschwarz: Are you saying the bloody oppression, and myth-telling are justified?>|
No more justified then your comments. If you're really inrested in what he was "saying" then why don't you simply read what he said instead of making up this tripe?
|Nov-24-05|| ||euripides: After 67 g4 Black can run the pawns but 67...f3 68 Kg3 f2 69 Kg2 e4 70 g5 e3 71 h6+ Kh7 (Kf7 72 Rh8 e2 73 Kxf2 Rxb7 74 Rh7+) 72 g6+ or 67...e4 68 g5 e3 69 h6+ Kh7 70 g6+ lead to wins like those pointed out by <avidfan>. However, after 67...Rh2+ 68 Kg5 Rb2 how does white make progress without allowing the f pawn through ?|
|Nov-24-05|| ||ajile: Good game. Could we get some more games where Black wins though. It's instructive to see how good players can equalize and then win with Black.
|Nov-24-05|| ||weisyschwarz: <John Boy> I dunno if you are ignoring or listening, but I also live in America, specifically the USA. Yes, lots of skeltons. Canadians and Mexicans are Americans, too. Okay, so you're not proud to be an American, but you're glad. Help me understand the difference. All I am asking is how your being "glad" stands in comparison to "bloody hands" and the "childhood classroom spin". It seems that to be patriotic you have to adopt a "my country right or wrong" way of seeing things. Like you can't love America, and point out its faults. Well, I loved my parents, and they pointed out my faults, and I did the same. |
<Granite> I don't know what planet you're on.
|Nov-24-05|| ||kevin86: This game is a draw,except for the black pawn at a3-otherwise black can check and white's king has no place to hide.The black pawn prevents a black check along the a file and thus,he is lost.|
|Nov-25-05|| ||greyfox: macy's day parade is the hit of greenday.. if you know about the band.. the first line goes like this:
today is the macy's day parade, the night of the living dead is on its way with a credit report for a duty call.. its a lifetime guarantee, stuffed in a coffin 10% more free, red light special at the mauseleum.. well nothing. this is what i thought when i first read the pun..|
|Nov-24-11|| ||mertangili: Very nice game with a difficult (at least for me) rook ending.|
58...Rc2 with the threat of creating an advanced passed pawn while remaining behind the opponent's passed pawn with 59. Ra7 Rxa2 60. b7 Rb2 seems a better way to go for black.
|Nov-24-11|| ||Gilmoy: So ... White's b-pawn is the Santa float, about to enter Harold Square?|
Or is Santa the K, and he fell off and has been chasing after it for 30 blocks? :) "Harrumph -- got off to use the WC -- nobody noticed -- on the bright side, pretty young things dressed as elves a big hit"
|Nov-24-11|| ||Penguincw: I'm not sure if this is common but the last three "Game of the Day"s have had white winning.|
|Nov-24-11|| ||Phony Benoni: <Penguincw> That's probably not uncommon. In fact, I would suppose that White has a higher winning percentage in published games than in complete databases.|
This is not a conspiracy. Both GOTDs and published games tend to favor spectacular, brilliant chess rather then long, drawn out wins. By the nature of chess, White is more likely to win quick and pretty games.
|Nov-24-11|| ||whiteshark: Solo los cacos y los malos toreros tienen prisa.|
|Nov-24-11|| ||vajeer: 20. Ng5 f6
21. Be2 fxg5
22. Bxg4 also looks strong for White
|Nov-24-11|| ||Phony Benoni: <Penguincw> Since I love silly research projects, especially when my brain in numbed by turkey and American football, I did a little checking into the GOTDs for 2011.|
White wins: 195 (59.45%)
Black wins: 117 (35.67%)
Draws: 16 (4.86%)
White's total winning percentage is 61.89%. As for the entire CG database:
White wins: 229992 (37.26%)
Black wins: 168061 (27.23%)
Draws: 219229 (35.52%)
For a total White winning percentage of 55.02%. Of course, there's some bias here because of the low number of draws in GOTDs. Looking at only decisive games, White wins 62.57% of GOTDs, 57.78% in the entire database.
The most number of White wins in a row has been 13 (March 8-March 20), while Black won five in a row from October 4-October 9. White wins average about 36 moves and Black wins about 41 moves, while the entire database averages 39 moves a games.
If I get bored around Christmas, I may look into previous years as well.
|Nov-24-11|| ||Chessmensch: <Penguincw> Please, Games of the Day.|
|Nov-24-11|| ||RandomVisitor: Black seems to have missed a small opportunity on move 35: 35...Qe4 <Rybka4.1>|
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Analysis by Rybka 4.1 x64:
[-0.15] d=21 35...Qe4 36.Nf2 Qxc4 37.Re1 Nf4 38.Rxd6 Rxd6 39.Qxd6 Qc7 40.Rd1 Re7 41.Rd2 Kf7 42.Qd4 e5 43.Qe3 Kf6 44.Kh2 Rh7 45.g3 Ne6 46.Rd5 e4 47.Rxf5+ Kxf5 48.Qxe4+ Kf6 49.Ng4+ Kg7 50.Qxe6 Qc2+
|Nov-28-11|| ||kevin86: Happy Thanksgiving!|
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