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| Oct-30-06 |
| Crackpawn: Hello all! That one was too easy even for me. |
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Oct-30-06
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| peyote: If this is <sometimes called Philidor's Legacy <WarmasterKron>>, what is Anastasia's Mate? |
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Oct-30-06
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| Phony Benoni: 
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This is a skeleton position for Anastasia's mate: <1.Ne7+ Kh8 2.Qxh7+ Kxh7 3.Rh3#> By the way, "Philidor's Legacy" was first demonstrated by Lucena back in 1497, about 250 years before Philidor. |
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| Oct-30-06 |
| shintaro go: nice smothered mate! |
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| Oct-30-06 |
| Sularus: <pggarner: <Sularius: If 25 ... Qf8, then 26. QxQ+ (R or B)xQ 27. BxN> After 25... Qf8, white can play 26.Rf1 threatening 27.Qxf8+ Bxf8, 28.Rxf8+ Kg7, 29.Rg8+ Kh6, 30.Nf7+ Kh5, 31.g4# If black replies 25....Qxf7, then white has 26.Nxf7+ Kg8, 27.Nh6#> from your last sentence, I take it you mean:
If black replies with 26.... Qxf7, is this right? (this is just to clarify) nonetheless, after
25. ... Qf8
26. Rf1 Qxf7
27. Nxf7+ Kg8
28. Nh6+ is NOT mate since the black king can still go to h8 and black's g7 bishop protects f8 and threatens capture on h6 (the knight). that is my patzer-like opinion as always. thanks for your time. |
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| Oct-30-06 |
| centercounter: <WarmasterKron: <ahmadov> It is sometimes called Philidor's Legacy, though that often refers to more specifically to the smothered mate that involves a double check with the knight and queen.> Coincidentally, I was given the opportunity to administer the same mate this past weekend. Admittedly, it was early in the tournament, when I was still paired way down. It's one that's nice to know, that's for sure! |
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| Oct-30-06 |
| schnarre: I saw that finish easily enough--not really any good options for Black here. |
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Oct-30-06
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| Marmot PFL: <talchess2003: how is this a noteable game?> How often do you see a future World Champ get mated in 27 moves? |
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| Nov-07-06 |
| schnarre: <Marmot PFL> Good question, lol! |
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| Feb-28-07 |
| Dr.Lecter: I never figured Ponomariov for such a creative player. Looks like I'm still learning. |
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| Jun-21-07 |
| Manic: <Dr.Lecter> by the sounds of your comment, it sounds like you think Ponomariov won, or was that comment sarcastic? |
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| Jul-01-07 |
| IMDONE4: Pono lets himself get smothermated? |
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Oct-13-07
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| casecloser: Pono let grishchuk mate him out of respect, such a beautiful combination should be respected, great sponsorship, even better game, i love this game for its clean sweeping attack, good way to learn how to play against alekhine |
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| May-14-09 |
| WhiteRook48: "Philidor's Legacy" was not found by Philidor |
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| Jul-26-09 |
| WhiteRook48: gee, Pomo missed that? |
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| Oct-10-09 |
| tanuri: sometimes when i get smothered, i let the guy mate me just to respect the beauty of it haha resigning isnt that pretty.. that what pono did |
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Oct-10-09
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| RandomVisitor: 4 minutes per move:
Alexander Grischuk (2606) - Ruslan Ponomariov (2630)
[B04]
3rd Int Torshavn FAI (5), 2000
[Rybka 3 ]
1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.Nf3 g6 5.Bc4 Nb6 6.Bb3 Bg7 7.a4 a5 8.Ng5 e6 [d5] 9.f4 dxe5 10.fxe5 c5 11.c3 cxd4 12.0-0 0-0 13.cxd4 Nc6 14.Nf3 f6 15.Nc3 last book move 15...fxe5 0.45/19
16.Bg5 0.40/17 Qd7 0.45/20
17.dxe5 0.45/19 Nxe5 0.45/19
18.Nxe5 0.31/18 <Rxf1+  1.14/21 [Rybka 3 : 18...Qxd1 19.Raxd1 Rxf1+ 20.Kxf1 Bxe5  0.31/18 ]> 19.Qxf1 0.94/20 Qd4+ 0.94/21
20.Kh1 0.94/20 Qxe5 1.14/19
21.Bd8 0.91/17 Qc5?  2.45/18
[Rybka 3 : 21...Ra6 22.Rd1 h6 23.Qd3 Nd7 24.Qxg6 Nf8 25.Qd3 Bd7 26.Be7 Bc6 27.Qd8 Qf5 28.Rg1 Kh7 29.Bc4 Ng6 30.Bd3 Qf2 31.Bh4 Qd4 32.Qxd4 0.91/17 ] 22.Ne4 1.95/17 Qb4? 4.27/19
[Rybka 3 : 22...Qc6 23.Ng5 Nd5 24.Rc1 Qd7 25.Nxe6 Qxe6 26.Re1 h5 27.Rxe6 Bxe6 28.Qe1 Bf7 29.Bxa5 Re8 30.Qd2 Re5 31.Bb4 Kh7 32.Bc5 Bh6 33.Qf2 Rf5 34.Qe1 1.95/17 ] 23.Ng5 3.91/18 Kh8 4.28/20
24.Qf7 4.28/19 Bd7 4.28/20
25.Bxe6 4.28/20 Rxd8? #2/3
[Rybka 3 : 25...Qf8 26.Qxf8+ Bxf8 27.Bxb6 Bxe6 28.Nxe6 Be7 29.Nc7 Rd8 30.Bxa5 Bf6 31.Bc3 Bxc3 32.bxc3 Rd3 33.Nb5 Kg7 34.Kg1 h5 35.Rb1 Kf6 36.Kf2 Rd2+ 37.Kf3 Ke5 38.Re1+ Kf6 39.Re4 Rc2 4.28/20 ] 26.Qg8+ #2/3 Rxg8 #1/3
27.Nf7# 0.00/0 1-0 |
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| Oct-10-09 |
| Sydro: Oink oink! |
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Oct-10-09
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| kevin86: Viva! Philidor! The pun falls into a gray area since "gris" means gray in some languages. |
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Oct-10-09
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| playground player: I thought, when your rating got to be around 2700, you were supposed to become immune to smothered mates. |
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| Oct-10-09 |
| Chess Addict: No, "Bird" is the word!
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| Oct-10-09 |
| WhiteRook48: gris, instead of noir (French black) |
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Oct-10-09
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| fm avari viraf: Neither "Gris" nor "Bird" is the word. It's Grisly vs Ruslan. |
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| Oct-10-09 |
| Sydro: Gris is pig in my language. |
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Oct-10-09
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| WannaBe: The pun is from 'Grease', sung by Frankie Valli.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFmk... |
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sac: 25.Bxe6