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Robert Franz Sr. vs Karl Mayet
"Franz with Benefits" (game of the day Feb-28-2017)
Berlin (1858), Berlin GER
Russian Game: Urusov Gambit (C42)  ·  0-1
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Aug-11-12  vinidivici: this game is so amazing. Wonder why not in the GOTD list yet.
Aug-11-12  newzild: A very cool game. Certainly worthy of a GOTD. Pun: "I Mayet Win".
Aug-11-12  ZeejDonnelly: What a crazy game! My first time looking at it.
Aug-17-12  Arturo2nd: White really gives a clear demonstration of the perils of neglecting development. He should have won easily. I have been playing through the Bishop's Opening section of Tartakower & Du Mont's 500 Master Games. Fritz shows 7 winning moves for While between moves 35 and 48. Both sides are given "??" multiple times in the opening.
Jan-27-13  solskytz: Actually by the time Black gets his second queen, material is pretty much equal, and there is still that threatening black pawn marching down the board
Jan-27-13  solskytz: White, not black (am I getting color blind or what??!!)
Jan-29-13  jovack: Good fight by black...
Although white had it in the bag a couple of times, it's not enough to win a few tactical battles to win the whole war.
Nov-22-13  Whitehat1963: Wow! Amazing game!
Aug-11-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  scutigera: Art is not the same as science. Naturally one wants exciting games to be correct also, but as with people, it is easy to excuse venial sins in the beautiful, and even mortal ones in the drop-dead gorgeous.
May-17-15  morfishine: THE 4th DIMENSION

Chess is essentially an exercise structured around four dimensions. These are: (1) What player 'A' sees (2) What player 'B' sees (3) What amount of what player 'A' sees that player 'B' sees & (4) What amount of what player 'B' sees that player 'A' sees

When both players are pushing their own plan, the question condenses to which plan is faster. At some point, one player has to abandon his own plan and react to the opponent's plan, otherwise instant defeat will result. So of course, errors will later be identified that more often than not, trace back to the original plans where one's attack strikes home in 5 moves, while the other only in 6. Forced to admit a calculation error, there are still resources at hand. After all, if one saw something the other didn't, why can't this be reversed down the line?

And so we end up with a game like this, full of marvelous resources and errors on both sides

But thats the nature of the 4th Dimension

*****

Jan-29-16
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  GrahamClayton: For a fair portion of the game Franz was effectively playing without two pieces, due to the pin by the Black rook on c1. He eventually had to sacrifice one of the two pieces (rook) in order to get the other one (knight) into the game.
Dec-24-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Hmm, looks like NN and Santa played a similar game 50 years later: NN vs Santa Claus, 1908.
Feb-28-17  AlicesKnight: Extraordinary game - kings wandering all over the board, 2Qs vs. RRNB, who will get the next passed pawn through... the guarding of White's queening square by the B at the end proves significant.
Feb-28-17
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  FSR: Korchnoi, in discussing his victory in Karpov vs Korchnoi, 1994, observed:

< At a certain moment, there were three queens on the board, two of Karpov's and one of mine. I have been in that situation before. That was, if my memory serves me well, in Korchnoi vs E German, 1962. That game was adjourned. I was the side with the two queens. During the analysis, I discovered something very remarkable: the board is simply too small for two queens of the same color. They only get in each other's way. I realize that this might sound stupid, but I fully mean it. The advantage is much less than one would expect by counting material. Karpov obviously didn't know that and that turned out to be fatal for him.> (link to game substituted for Korchnoi's description of it)

Feb-28-17  Cheapo by the Dozen: The only time I recall sacrificing two queens in the same game I was playing double bughouse. That forced mate, but unfortunately my team was at a net time disadvantage. My opponent stalled, and his partner was able to beat mine in the time remaining to him. :(
Feb-28-17
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  Once: Fun game, but is it really an Urusov gambit? I always thought that the Urusov was 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nf6 3. d4


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This seems to be more of a Boden–Kieseritzky Gambit which starts with 3.Nf3 Nxe4.

Can it really be an Urusov if the trademark 3. d4 doesn't happen until several moves later?

Feb-28-17  The Kings Domain: First came across this hilarious game in Tartakower's and Du Mont's classic "500 Master Games of Chess". The definitive example of "wild, messy, and all over the place".
Feb-28-17  Timi: Back then where chess games were incredibly artistic and creative
Feb-28-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  maxi: <FSR> Thank you for quoting that very enlightening paragraph by Korchnoi. Nice!
Feb-28-17  Marcelo Bruno: Cool blood for playing against two queens!
Feb-28-17  talljack: It looks to me like 40. ... Rf1 wins for Black before all this Queen stuff begins. I gave it to Stockfish on a strong processor and it agrees, evaluating the position as 4.12.
Mar-03-17
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  FSR: I agree with <Once>. This ain't no Urusov Gambit.
Mar-04-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <Once....This seems to be more of a Boden–Kieseritzky Gambit which starts with 3.Nf3 Nxe4....>

It is, though I arrived at the Boden via the move order 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bc4 Nxe4 5.0-0 in a game with Louis Petithory at Manchester, Vermont 1997.

Jun-01-17  cwcarlson: 7...♕f6? 8.f3 ♘g5 9.♘c3 c6 10.f4 ♘e4 11.♘e4 de 12.♖e1 ; 7...O-O=.
Dec-10-17
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  GrahamClayton: <The Kings Domain>First came across this hilarious game in Tartakower's and Du Mont's classic "500 Master Games of Chess".

I first came across this game in Irving Chernev's "Wonders and Curiosities of Chess".

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