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Carl Hartlaub vs Emanuel Lasker
Simul, 24b (1908) (exhibition), Bremen GER, Oct-17
Bishop's Opening: Boden-Kieseritsky Gambit (C27)  ·  1-0

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Dec-05-03  technical draw: Something's wrong here. If it's a simul then Lasker should be white. And that will make more sense.
Dec-05-03  Calli: Actually, the database I have agrees with Chessgames and sources this game as follows:

"source: "Emanuel Lasker", v3, The Chess Player 1976, p65. ref : "Dr. Hartlaub's Glanzpartien", Michels 1919."

So Dr.Hartlaub apparently did beat Lasker with the white pieces. Minor quibble is that I believe his first name is spelled Karl.

Dec-05-03  technical draw: I guess it's right. "Glanzpartien" is nice or neat game. Kudos to Herr Doktor. Even though it's a simul it's pretty bad playing on Lasker's part.
Jan-23-05  iron maiden: Was Dr. Hartlaub an acquaintance of Lasker's? It seems a little odd he would play him in simuls in both New York (Hartlaub vs Lasker, 1911) and Germany.
Jan-23-05  sneaky pete: <iron maiden> The alleged New York game wasn't played in New York but somewhere, sometime in Germany, if it is genuine at all. Lasker's famous loss against Loman (some sources give this erroneously as a win by Lasker) from a simul in London has also been moved on this site to New York, where neither Loman nor Hartlaub ever set foot, as far as I know.

Hartlaub was a coffeehouse player from Bremen, who only sometimes participated (with mixed results) in a minor tournament (Hauptturnier B or Nebenturnier) of the German Chess Federation's "Congresses".

Dec-08-05
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  TheAlchemist: I wonder who was doing the simul :-P
Jan-28-08  sneaky pete: All 3 games were played in Bremen. In 1908 Lasker was black in all 24 games, on the other two occasions he alternated white and black, as was usual in those days.

Hartlaub should of course have won the third game Hartlaub vs Lasker, 1911 as well, where Lasker played the same horrible 6... c6, then on move 8, with the memory of the 1908 game stirred, chose another way to his doom, with unexpected success.

Mar-28-14  thomastonk: This game was played on October 17, 1908 in a simul in Bremen, where Lasker's result was +18, =3, -3.
Oct-12-16  brankat: To beat Dr.Lasker in 17 moves, even in a simul event, is something else!
Apr-03-23  whiteshark: <brankat> Where in the world are you?
Apr-03-23  whiteshark: It's #5, for starters.

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