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|Dec-10-15|| ||Lparker: What about 38. Kh4?|
|Dec-10-15|| ||Lparker: Sorry, Kh4 loses sooner!|
|Dec-10-15|| ||saturn2: 39...Rh4 is the one and only move.|
|Dec-10-15|| ||LucB: Happy Birthday CG!
Here's a similar puzzle; perhaps some of you have seen it:
|Dec-10-15|| ||kevin86: Lasker is outLASKERED in this one. Black is desperate to get the pawn out of the way and the rook sac will take care of that as the pawn can CHECK with a gain of tempo. Then the king can take care of the pawn.|
|Dec-10-15|| ||Howard: Somewhat strangely, no one yet has mentioned that this position was shown in photograph form in a 1984 back issue of "Chess Life". The article was called "The Ultimate Blunder", and it was about resigning in a WON position. This position was shown at the beginning of the article, and the solution was given at the end.|
|Dec-10-15|| ||petrosianc: 33.Rf8+, R:f8
34.Q:c2 doesn't win the game easily for white ?
|Dec-10-15|| ||petemccabe: This seem like a relatively easy thing to spot (especially for a Thursday), butů Lasker missed it.|
|Dec-10-15|| ||Castleinthesky: Got it, I won't give it to anyone (because it it's contagious). A Thursday rarity for me.|
|Dec-10-15|| ||Olsonist: This had to be the easiest Thursday ever.
Thursday's are rare for me too.
|Dec-10-15|| ||M.Hassan: I found the solution very soon too. A Rook sac plus a check by pawn with tempo brings win for Black|
Black King can take care of White pawns but White king after capturing d pawn has to go after b7 pawn and by then b5 pawn can promote itself.
|Dec-10-15|| ||FSR: I've seen this one before. Cute trick.|
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|Dec-10-15|| ||Mating Net: The technique for stopping the pawn is quite similar to what Kasparov used in this game Kasparov vs Timman, 2000|
|Dec-10-15|| ||Marmot PFL: <Can white win? - I think so, by deviating from the game at move 37.>|
I am not sure. If the WK goes to the e-file black plays Rxg2 and endings like this one are draws -
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|Dec-10-15|| ||eaglewing: <Jimfromprovidence> <Tiggler> <patzer2>:
Regarding 38.Ke3 (or 38.Kf3/Ke2/Kd3) really winning I have a doubt. I just do not know.|
38. Ke3 Rxg2 39. h8Q+ Ke7 and studying the position with a tablebase is really interesting (K's, Q, R and Pawns g7+h2).
If Black can hold the King near/behind the g7 and transfer the rook to f6/h6, he is save. The tablebase position is won, but do the 4 pawns, especially the d5, allow the necessary distraction of White to reach the safe haven?
The tablebase win continues 40. Qh4+ and against 40. ... Ke8 the most direct win is Qe4+, but that does not work here. Do the computer-lines really see a win or do they just estimate Queen vs. Rook is a sufficient advantage for the win in an unclear position?
|Dec-10-15|| ||eaglewing: How is it called? Ninja'ed? ;-)
Greetings <Marmot PFL>!
|Dec-10-15|| ||PJs Studio: Patser2 and Jim...have it. The kind needed to chase the rook from the first through third ranks. As soon as he goes to the fourth he is lost. |
Interestingly Lasker may have lost his sense of danger - BLACK LOOKS COMPLETELY BUSTED. In other words, hard to see Rh4 when the rook is the only thing keeping black alive. Aside, - the white king is needed up the board to help the queen with mate or the black Qside pawns and rook could be trouble.
|Dec-10-15|| ||Olsonist: Doesn't the forced continuation start earlier?|
|May-04-16|| ||Marcelo Bruno: In Reuben Fine's "World's Greatest Chess Games" as well in an old Brazilian newspaper (I believe "Correio Paulistano" or "Diario de Noticias") it's described that who played White was "Amateur" and Black "Lasker".|
|May-04-16|| ||Stonehenge: Loman's column in 'De Groene Amsterdammer':
|Aug-08-16|| ||Whitehat1963: Great game from Loman!|
|Aug-08-16|| ||sudoplatov: Rumors of the Salesman's Death are premature.|
|Aug-09-16|| ||perfidious: Indeed; Willy would have to wait until 1932, an annus horribilis for notable chess figures, for his ticket out to be punched by The Big Man.|
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