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| Jun-23-06 | | wolverine199: I also thought it was Ktxf3+ first :)... but i did't calculate it to the end. I just thought the white king was exposed, the white pieces couldn't come to the defense and the black queen could do some damage and just called it a day... i failed to see the bishop threat. |
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| Jun-23-06 | | alfilbueno: <monad> The key of Qb2 is that it defends white's knight on e2, and then, Rxc3 can be met by Bxc3 instead of Nxc3. In your second diagram, after Bxc3 (with Qb3), Black wins a piece with Qxe2, with a hopeless position for White. I got the two first moves of the puzzle, but missed Qf1. My idea at that point was Be5+ and Rxc3, followed by Qe2, but I didn't see the strong defensive idea Qb5. A difficult "long" move Qf1! |
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| Jun-23-06 | | aktajha: It's really funny; when I started taking chess seriously, about a year and a half ago, I had trouble seeing wednesday puzzles. Now I occasionally solve saturday puzzles! Thanks chessgames; for making me way better than I was (I can see it in my games as well...my rating is starting to increase) |
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| Jun-23-06 | | monad: <alfilbueno: >
Yes, you're right. The longer I stared at the diagram, the clearer it became: double possession of the a1-h8 diagonal and the Knight on -e5- can't go to -f3-I suppose 22...Rxa4 is now Black's best bet.
BTW, is this the same Gligoric that played as early as 1947??
Quite a career!
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| Jun-23-06 | | olav dalkeith: Gligoric was 81 years young when he played this game. I hope I still have my eye-sight let alone be alive in 2042. |
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Jun-23-06
 | | alphee: Looking at the white pawn chain it reminded me of the KID and after realising the real issue was the knight in e2 making any attack impossible through g3 alone because of the e1 bishop, eg {23. gxf3 Be5+
24. Kh1 Ng3+ 25. Nxg3 Bxg3 26. Bxg3) the solution came easily. |
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| Jun-23-06 | | Tariqov: I didn't get it,i hoped it was a spoiler because i considered what <RichardTaylor> did but knew no more checks were available and that no quiet moves were available as there is a Qb8 check.But suprisingly i considered the move Qf1!! as in the game but i forgot why i stop there and look for other moves ,strange... |
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Jun-23-06
 | | chessgames.com: It's true: this week has featured one difficult puzzle after another, and the weekend will be harder still. Anybody who scores 7/7 this week is deserving of a chess title. |
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Jun-23-06
 | | outplayer: Is black really winning in the final position? Why? |
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Jun-23-06
 | | kevin86: I missed this one! I never saw the true power behing Qf1. It was quiet to me-below a whisper,lol |
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Jun-23-06
| | outplayer: <patzer2> 26...Rc3! also wins How? it seems to draw after 27.Nxc3 |
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Jun-23-06
 | | RandomVisitor: <outplayer>The game might continue (after 24...Qf1) 25.Bg3 Qxf3 26.Na2 Qe2+ 27.Kg1 Rc2 28.Qxc2 Qxc2 -5.30/18. |
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Jun-23-06
 | | patzer2: <outplayer> After <25. Bg3 Qxf3! 26. Nb5>, the practical winning move for most human players is Qe2+  . However, you asked how <(26...Rc3! also wins)>. After <27. Nxc3>, play might continue 27...Qxg3+ 28. Kh1 (diagram below) 
click for larger view28...♕f3+! 29. ♔g1 ♗xc3! 30. ♕c4
[30. Rb2 Nf4 31. Kh2 Qxh3+ 32. Kg1 Qg3+ 33. Kh1 Qf3+ 34. Kh2 g5 35. Rc2 Qh5+ 36. Kg1 Qxd1+ 37. Kh2 Qh5+ 38. Kg1 (38. Kg3 Be1+ 39. Rf2 Qh3#) 38... Bd4+ 39. Kf1 (39. Rf2 Bxf2+ 40. Kxf2 Qe2+ 41. Kg3 Qg2#) 39... Qh1#] 30... ♘f4 31. ♕f1 ♘e2+ 32. ♕xe2 ♕xe2 
(-13.59 @ 15 depth, Fritz 8). |
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| Jun-23-06 | | pkendal: Monday's stumped me, I saw Tuesday's immediately, Wednesday stumped me, yesterday's I stared at without seeing an ideas for quite some time, but I saw today's in seconds, my first Friday puzzle solved (all the way through) ever. I wonder if I'm developing xray vision in fits and spurts? |
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| Jun-23-06 | | noendgame: Will wonders never cease: I actually got a Friday puzzle. Perhaps I should change my Chessgames moniker . . . |
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Jun-23-06
 | | dakgootje: Okay this week is hard. Had very much trouble getting all the puzzles this week up to this one, but succeeded. Here got it... partly. Yes, i got the moves which proved to be the game continuation, but only realised the Bg3 when checking the solution and was not sure about what to do then, until i read the comments. Lets call it a 4.5/5 ;-) but considering the difficulty so far it will most probably end in a 4.5/7 this week. |
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Jun-23-06
 | | YouRang: Rats - I came close. I saw the discovered attacks (bishop on c3 knight and queen on e2 knight). For a long time, I thought the point would be to lure the white queen to c3, then play ...Ng4+, with bishop taking queen next move. Later, I saw the potential for dropping the black queen on f1, but couldn't quite put it all together in the right order. Trickly problem - just a bit beyond the horizon of my 'chess vision'. :-( |
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Jun-23-06
| | patzer2: Correction to my first post: I overlooked the strong defensive move 25. Qb5! in this line (after 24...Bxc3??) -- stopping <Black's> attack in it's tracks and turning the tables to secure a decisive material advantage for <White.> |
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| Jun-23-06 | | The17thPawn: First two moves were fairly evident but Qf1 was not even on my radar. Great puzzle Chessgames, this is the kind of week that can really improve your tactical vision as long as you apply yourself. Solving the puzzle is great but understanding the themes improves my chess for my own games. |
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Jun-23-06
| | patzer2: Perhaps 13. Rf1 as in V Akobian vs M Leon Hoyos, 2005, 2005 is an improvement in the opening. |
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| Jun-23-06 | | SniperOnG7: Oh...I came so close to the answer, but instead of playing Nxf3+ straight away, I thought of Qf1, which gives White a move for defense. |
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| Jun-23-06 | | SniperOnG7: BTW my line goes
22...Rxc3
23 Nxc3 Qf1
24 Bd2 Nxf3+
25 gxf3 Qf2+
26 Kh1 Ng3#
Of course, as my previous post said, 23...Qf1 gives White one move for defense. |
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| Jun-23-06 | | dabaru: SniperOnG7, that's the line I thought of too. But I was just wondering if there's any clear win if white continues with Bg3 |
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| Jun-24-06 | | SniperOnG7: <dabaru> Don't think so. The Bishop controls too many squares and Black has to retreat his Queen, down on material. |
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| Jan-03-07 | | Ziggurat: I saw this game live and was very impressed with Nybäck's combination. (BTW, today I saw him lose to David Howell in a rather interesting game in the same competition, Rilton Cup.) |
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sac: 22...Rxc3