|Jun-19-04|| ||jeffnool: nice game by the One!!! Kasparov is still the best... |
|Jun-19-04|| ||acirce: For playing out a line analysed to draw since years? The entire game up to 30...Qxc5+ has in fact been played before (Andersson-Poulsen 1991) according to John Nunn's <The Complete Najdorf: 6.Bg5>|
Vallejo deviates with 31. Kd2 :-) but it is still a draw of course.
|Jul-01-04|| ||RonB52734: In 1972 Spassky beat, and then drew, Fischer in this opening. And if you look at the popularity graph for this opening (up through 7...Qb6 at Sicilian, Najdorf (B97) ), its popularity seems to have flatlined. Is that because, as <acirce> says, it is "a line analyzed to draw since years"? If so, I wonder why GM Kasparov would play it so recently? (I can't read the complete date for this game on my browswer, does anybody know it?) Can anybody comment a bit more on this? |
|Jul-02-04|| ||acirce: <If so, I wonder why GM Kasparov would play it so recently? (I can't read the complete date for this game on my browswer, does anybody know it?)> It was played very recently; in June. Kasparov was apparently happy with a draw for some reason. Now, I wasn't talking about the Poisoned Pawn itself, but this specific line they played out in the game, but I suspect that in many cases White can virtually force a draw or a drawish game unless Black deviates with inferior moves. |
|Jul-02-04|| ||RonB52734: thanks <acirce> |
|Oct-13-04|| ||themindset: i dont think kasparov was "playing for the draw". i think he was playing a "win or draw" line, a good strategy with the black pieces. |
|Nov-16-04|| ||dafish298: is this a definite book draw? the entire thing? i know the poisoned pawn variation pretty good, the only problem is when someone strays from the main line i dont know what to do lol (im talking about playing it as white). Any experienced ppl with this opening advice and ideas would be appreciated. By the way the main line i am used to is what they played in this game up until Kaspy played Qxa2...like after white plays 10.f5 alot of ppl make mistakes i think and i dont know what to do to capitalize on it. |
|May-17-05|| ||Bobak Zahmat: Great game by Vallejo Pons, against the top seed player of the world Garry Kasparov.|
|May-17-05|| ||AdrianP: <Bobak Zahmat> Huh??! The entire game was theory. (cf. <acirce's> post above)|
|Jun-29-05|| ||AdrianP: Azarov,S (2556) - Kasparov,G (2813) [B97]
EUCup 20th Izmir (4), 06.10.2004
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Qb6 8.Qd2 Qxb2 9.Rb1 Qa3 10.f5 Nc6 11.fxe6 fxe6 12.Nxc6 bxc6 13.e5 dxe5 14.Bxf6 gxf6 15.Ne4 Qxa2 16.Rd1 Be7 17.Be2 0–0 18.0–0 Ra7 19.Rf3 Kh8 20.Rg3 Rd7 21.Qh6 Rxd1+ 22.Bxd1 Rf7 23.Qh5 Qa5 24.Kf1 Qd8 25.Qxf7 Qxd1+ 26.Kf2 Qxc2+ 27.Ke3 Bc5+ ½–½
|Oct-23-05|| ||chessgames.com: S Azarov vs Kasparov, 2004|
|Oct-05-09|| ||muwatalli: have all the other variations fo the poisoned pawn been analyzed out to a draw at best as well?|
|Feb-07-10|| ||hedgeh0g: <muwatalli> No, and that's what keeps it a viable opening for either side. I recall Grischuk playing Anand in the Poisoned Pawn recently, where White developed a strong attack with the novelty Be2 at some opportune moment, but the game eventually petered out to a draw.|
When you regularly play the main line of an opening with the assumption that the theory is "best", it can come as more of a surprise when the opponent deviates. :)
|Jan-22-11|| ||GilesFarnaby: <muwatalli: have all the other variations fo the poisoned pawn been analyzed out to a draw at best as well?>|
If, after 10.f5, instead of 10...Nc6 black plays ...e5 game is still opened and not heavily theoretized (does that word even exist?); true: is sharper, is riskier for black, but in case you are fighting for the win...
Also, after the other common 10th move for white (10.e5) with ...h6 11.Bh4 dxe5 12.fxe5 g5...
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...we arrive to another position with a lot of things to discover left, and fully playable from both sides.
|Nov-02-11|| ||Llawdogg: An example of a grand master draw.|
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