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| Jul-21-04 |
| zynoble1: I agree... it is quite easy to find the right moves because the first thing u realize is that the king cannot move.. so it is obvious that you have to sacrifice your pieces.. |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| jmcd2002: If 66. Kc7, ...Qc6+ forces the draw. |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| Shadout Mapes: What about 63.Ke8? |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| macphearsome: Three for three! Wooo!
...dreading tomorrow, this one took me too long. |
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Jul-21-04
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| Gypsy: < Shadout Mapes: What about 63.Ke8?> For istance 63...Qc6+ 64.Kxf7 Qg6 transposes into the game, while 64.Qd7? Rxd7 and 64.Nd7? Qe6+ both loose for White. |
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Jul-21-04
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| Gypsy: <Think is time of letting this stalemate puzzules behind, dont you think my friends? > It all depends on the content. I'v seen some spectacular stalemates, and damn hard to figure out, too. |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| Akavall: I think we'll see them towards the end of the week. |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| cjhasbrouck: Just signed up for Premium Membership...
The Opening and Ending Explorers alone are well worth the low sign-up fee. Highly recommended to everybody. |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| nikolaas: Again a stalemate! I found hem all; they're so simple! If you know that black has to draw, you get them immediately. |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| Seraphina: I remember a wonderful stalemate by Bird, but can't rmember the opponent... Does anyone know the game??? |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| BluE DicE: Is anyone detecting a theme here? |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| sneaky pete: <Seraphina> You may mean Bird vs Englisch, 1883 but Bird is the victim here. |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| marekg248: Geller drew one game, it was damn hard to figure out :), I don't remember it, I'm gonna find it and write tomorrow. Hope chessgames.com don't want it for friday puzzle. |
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Jul-21-04
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| fred lennox: 60...Qb7 lead to a draw. |
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Jul-21-04
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| kevin86: This game would have probably been a draw anyway-but black ends it with spice! That is the problem with queen endings:perpetuals and stalemate traps run rampant. Without the queens,a knight and two pawns should beat a rook-with difficulty. |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| PawnBlock: What's with the complaints about stalemate/forced draw puzzles? Often they are difficult so good mental exersize. And if not difficult it still reinforces the patterns (ie: K can't move, can I sac the pieces?) in your mind. Also in a real game situation you may embark on an adventure that's good as far as you've calculated; and bad one move past- hence the dire need to find a stalemate or draw so as not to lose. Don't balk at good training! |
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Jul-21-04
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| beenthere240: I agree with Kevin86 -- in fact after 62...Qf6+ 63. K moves Q x d8+ 64. Qxd8 Kb6 and black should be able to win the b pawn and get an easy draw. As played, everyone gets to go leave early and enjoy the Tallinn nightlife. |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| MatrixManNe0: Shadout Mapes, in response to 63. Ke8, black plays:
63... Rf8+ 64. Kxf8 (Forced, or white will be in a losing position) 64... Qh6+ :65. Ke8 Qf8+ 66. Kd7 Qd6+ 67. Kc8 Qb8+ with perpetual check while 65. Kf7 Qg7+ 66. Ke6 (or 66. Ke8 Qf7+ with stalemate.) 66... Qf7+ 67. Kd6 Qd5+ 68. Kc7 (or 68. Ke7 Qf7+ is similar, where black can force to the perpetual if white continues to retreat to d6 and e7, or transpose with an eventual Kc7 anyway. Notice that the king must move to the seventh rank or black WINS.) 68... Qc6+ when white must finally take the queen. But, another variation occurs, 65. Ke7 Qf6+ 66. Kd7 (or 66. Ke8 Qf7 with stalemate.) 66... Qd6+ 67. Kany and white forces perpetual check. Anyway, I believe that forcing draws in PUZZLES is incredibly easy, as the drawer must simply place their pieces en prise while stalemating their own king! OMG, I just realised I had the colors reversed! I have changed it, so if there are any errors, this is the cause! |
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Jul-21-04
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| ChessGeezer: I find the stalemate puzzles interesting and challenging, but I'm new to chess. I'm trying to improve my game to keep up with my 8 year old son so I can challenge him over the board. I have very little chance of solving the puzzles near the end of the week. I learn from them, but I enjoy this more when I solve one every now and then. I like the way the puzzles start out easier and follow a theme through the week. I am including these comments because the impression I have is that the folks that run this site read them and are influenced by them. Please remember that some of us that use the site learn from even the Monday puzzles and enjoy actually solving a puzzle once in a while. :) |
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Jul-21-04
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| RonB52734: Not only are stalemate puzzles useful in the unlikely event one of us should find ourselves in a losing position, they are also good training when, in a winning position, one is looking for the opponent's best move. |
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| Jul-21-04 |
| erikcu: ChessGeezer I doubt chessgames.com will be changing their Monday-easier to Sunday-most-difficult progression. I think many of the people like the puzzles presented here. I think Chessgames.com is immune to the "it is too easy" line. Probably will implement a feature for its paying members to automatically ignore anyone who types those 4 words... but you would unfortunately miss out on some really funny messages by the likes of Ferocious Beast... BTW is he still around I put him on ignore ages ago, and now I kinda miss him. |
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Jul-21-04
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| midknightblue: Well I feel dumb. Am I the only one who found this puzzle challenging? It was obvious that black had to sac the rook then the Q, but i found it very difficult to see the forced draw cuz white king had quite a few options for where to move his king to escape the checks. |
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| Dec-24-08 |
| WhiteRook48: silly draws.
Queen: "Perpetual?"
King: "Get away from me!"
Queen: "So kill me."
After that...
STALEMATE |
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| Jan-25-09 |
| WhiteRook48: those stalemates were just ridiculous |
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| Feb-07-09 |
| WhiteRook48: did white have to take the Q? |
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