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Pal Benko vs Wolfram Hartmann
Norwegian Open (1984), Gausdal NOR
English Opening: Anglo-Indian Defense. Queen's Knight Variation (A16)  ·  0-1
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Apr-15-14  PJs Studio: It's interesting how the aggressive moves by black like knight or bishop to f3 or h3 are plausible but... I still spent a minute or so evaluating those as pure fantasy before seeing the Queen sac leads to unavoidable mate.
Apr-15-14
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  LucB: <Once>

<But I would not recommend typing "mating positions" into google...>

Definitely not a good idea... it reminds me of when I once wanted to introduce the topic of implicit differentiation to my students and I did a search for "beautiful curves" to show them some examples of implicit curves... bad idea, baaaad idea..

Apr-15-14  independentthinker: Thank you guys. I have the Chandler book - awesome text. I will pick up the John Nunn one too.
Apr-15-14  M.Hassan: Although it is categorized as "Easy", I just failed to solve it and looked at the game. I am also not ashamed to declare it!
Apr-15-14  BOSTER: <PJs Studio I still spent a minute or so evaluating those as pure fantasy before seeing the Queen sac>.

There is no need to have any fantasy.
You need to recognize <pattern>. I remember such <pattern> (diagram)


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White to play.
As clear as <FSR> the the unforeseen episode how <Dzindi kicked the set into the water>.

Apr-15-14
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  FSR: <independentthinker: Thank you guys. I have the Chandler book - awesome text. I will pick up the John Nunn one too.>

I hope that you also have <The Art of the Checkmate> by Renaud and Kahn. A classic. If you live in the U.S., you can get it used for less than $5 including postage. http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Check... Wikipedia has all the familiar mating patterns, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check..., but Renaud and Kahn also show how to set them up and defend against them.

Apr-15-14
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  FSR: <Sally Simpson> From your diagram, 1...Bxg2+ 2.Kxg2 Nf4+ (or 2...Nh4+) 3.Kh1 Rg1+ 4.Rxg1 Qf3+ 5.Rg2 Qxg2#. Nice.

So you're the famed G. Chandler (the same as Geoff Chandler, I assume)? That makes you the author of my favorite game where White beats the so-called Blackburne Shilling Gambit. Burgess cited it in <The Mammoth Book of Chess> and I cited it in Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black....

To wit:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nd4?! 4.Nxe5!? Qg5! 5.Bxf7+! Ke7 (5...Kd8!?) 6.0-0 Qxe5 7.Bxg8 Rxg8 8.c3 Nc6 9.d4 Qa5? 10.d5 Ne5? 11.Qh5! Nf7? (11...d6 12.Bg5+ Kd7 13.Qxh7 ) 12.d6+! 1–0 G. Chandler–NN, Stockbridge 1983

I love that game! Did you play 4.Nxe5!? intending to sac a piece, or did you get surprised by 4...Qg5! and then decide that the piece sac was your only chance?

Apr-15-14  RookFile: Got to love this game. Benko was winning easily, but black thought of a terrific trap.
Apr-15-14  Halldor: Here I first tried to see a mate pattern, which was easy (Bf3 and Nh3 if Pg2 had been removed). Then I saw that I could remove the Pg2 by Queensack, and everything fell into place.
Apr-15-14  Herma48852: Just because its early in the week I had to try 21... Qxg2+ and worked out: 22. Kxg2 Bf3+ 23.Kh2 Nh3#
Apr-15-14  dark.horse: <perfidious> Try playing poker, watching all the money go in with one card still to come, be a big favourite (only one to four cards can defeat you of forty or so) and the miracle comes true.

Final showdown from The Cincinnati Kid.

Apr-15-14
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  perfidious: Never seen the movie--just lived it on both sides of the equation, many times over.
Apr-15-14
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  Sally Simpson: Hi FSR,

Unfortunately that is me.

It was simul v a school as a favour for a lad who took the chess class. They had been primed with this trap, I faced it about 7 or 8 times. I of course knew it and either sacced on f7 or played Nxd5.

Later I figured out White can get a stonking attack with....


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5.0-0! Qxe5 6.c3


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But enough of that - back on thread. Same idea with a slight twist.

Kalix - Zunker, Germany 1994 (White to play)

(be careful it's not as easy as it seems.)


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and

Braga - Bruned, Spain 2004

(You have seen the mating pattern - play the trick.)


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If you run that mating pattern through any reasonable database you will find quite a lot of checkmates that were actually played. In defence of Benko it does seem that the pattern is sending no alarm bells to the defending player.

Madynski - Panek, Poland 1999
(I'll leave it to the lads to make up a 'panic' pun.)


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White here saw the idea and sacced the exchange to pull the c4 Knight away from defending the e5 square.

1.Rxa3 Nxa3 2.Qe5.


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Black should now pin the d4 Knight with 2..Qb6. Instead he played for a Queen swap with 2...Qc7 and White wrapped it up with 3.Qg7+ 4.Nf5++ and Nh6 mate.

Apr-15-14  PJs Studio: Boster. Even when I've never seen a mating pattern before I can usually find it fairly quickly. It's the amount of time I have to spend that I wish to improve on. Usually on Monday and Tuesdays I find the answer in five to ten seconds, but some are a little odd or awkward. This one isn't awkward, I just kept looking in the wrong direction...for less than a minute. Not too bad.

Now, if I could just get off my butt and study my strategic theory. Blech!!

Apr-15-14  LIFE Master AJ: Wow!!!!!

Mate in three, 21...QxP/g2+!, followed by 22...Bf3+; and then 23...Nh3#. (No defense, it is all forced.)

Apr-15-14  LIFE Master AJ: I'm amazed that Benko fell for this ... not totally unbelievable, but surprising! Especially since Benko - at his prime - might have been in the top ten in the world.
Apr-15-14  Cheapo by the Dozen: Nice one by expert problemist Benko. Took me a couple of minutes, since I was looking at moves to f3 or h3. But since those didn't turn out to be forcing enough -- f-pawn moves and knight retreats are strong for the defense -- I soon found

21 ... Qxg2+
22 Kxg2 Bf3+
23 Kg1 Nh3#

Apr-15-14  barryh1976: Chrisowen, thanks for the comical post.
Apr-16-14
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  FSR: <Sally Simpson> You needn't be so modest. Kalix - 1.Nf5 Bf6 2.Bxf6 looks easy. Of course 1.Qg7+?? doesn't work with h6 covered.

In the other game, 1.Qh6! Qf6 2.Bxf6 is curtains.

Apr-16-14
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  FSR: <Cheapo by the Dozen: Nice one by expert problemist Benko.>

I think you are operating under a misconception. Benko <lost> this game.

Apr-16-14
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  Aurora: <FSR: <Cheapo by the Dozen: Nice one by expert problemist Benko.> I think you are operating under a misconception. Benko <lost> this game.>

That's exactly Benko's problem. ;)

Apr-16-14
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  perfidious: <Cheapo> evidently operates under more than his fair share of misconceptions, for that is why he has, nolens volens, found himself forced to resort to cheapos.
Apr-16-14
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  kevin86: Yes,I erred. The ONLY mate here is 21...♕g2+ 22 ♔xg2 ♗f3+ 23 ♔g1 ♘h3#.

I was thinking about it last night. Thanks for the correction.

Apr-16-14  independentthinker: FSR - thank you, Sir.
Aug-23-17  Optimal Pieces: So the black player isn't Christer Hartman from Sweden?

In this blog post it is Christer Hartman:
http://chessimprover.com/beating-a-...

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