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Jun-29-07
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| dzechiel: Well, I was right that I was wrong. White had a superior defence in 28 Ke1. I should have spotted it. <sigh> |
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| Jun-29-07 |
| mkrk17: I got Bxf3, then Nxf3, Ne4+. Anybody's got the answer.. ? |
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Jun-29-07
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| DIO: I think the cherry on the cake was the absolutely beautiful 28 ... Nxc3!! I was going for the more straightforward 28 ... Qxf3, but the c3 capture has indeed an artistic flavor to it - a strong artistic flavor! |
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Jun-29-07
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| Marmot PFL: Kramnik has brilliantly sacrificed his queen to create an unstoppable passed pawn and with his usual impeccable technique has squelched sll attempts at kingide counterplay, ingenious though they are. Black can therefore resign with a clear conscience, knowing he has been defeated by the greatest player of the 21st cenhtury. |
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| Jun-29-07 |
| Aas: Didn't get the answer, after a long look i settled on g4 which would lead to a mate after a move like f4 or fxg4. Of course i missed the simple Bc4 reply which shatters the attack... Good puzzle... |
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| Jun-29-07 |
| mkrk17: OK..i saw the game..i can claim that i saw upto Ne4+ and also saw that Ke1 is white's toughest defence. After that, ofccourse, i didnt see Nxc3. Anyway..good combination by Leko. |
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| Jun-29-07 |
| gmgomes: I was watching this game live; when Leko played 23. Re2, the official site (with Fritz) had evaluations around +1.3.
In fact the puzzle should start with 25.... Qd3!!; initially the engines indicated this was blunder, two minutes later the engine found a draw by repetition and only after 5 mins. the wining sequence was found by silicon friend. |
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Jun-29-07
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| YouRang: I couldn't find anything. :-(
I glanced at 26...Bxf3 to give the knight an entry point at e4, but I couldn't make it go anywhere. I never saw ...Nxc3! Nice puzzle, though. |
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Jun-29-07
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| tarek1: i failed on this one. Like others, I saw 26...Bxf3 and 27...Ne4+. I examined all three possible squares for the white king to go :
28.Kg2, 28.Kg1 and 28.Ke1. The two first lead to mate, but I couldn't find anything at all against 28.Ke1 and remained stuck at this point, trying to find a mate where there isn't, and missed 28...Nxc3. |
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Jun-29-07
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| kevin86: White gave up his queen with the thought that the a-pawn could not be stopped. Soon,he was to discover that the king's home fires were burning out of control. A case of:the operation was successful,but the patient died. :( |
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| Jun-29-07 |
| snarky: i'm with Aas. I thought g4 was a winning move. But I didn't look deeply enough. |
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| Jun-29-07 |
| newton296: this one was too easy , I saw the game live and the follow up commentary. Remembered the whole combo from the bishop sac to the Q taking the rook in the corner after the knight sak. If u got this one , Im impressed, as it was considered a brilliant game by leko. |
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| Jun-29-07 |
| newton296: lets put it this way, Kramnik couldn't even spot this one! |
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Jun-29-07
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| fm avari viraf: It's a very complex position. White is threatening to Queen his a-pawn but his pieces lack coordination whereas Black is having an active piece moblity. So the only logical move is 26...Bxf3 which most of us found out. Now, if 27.Bc4?? then 27...Ng4+ & White will be mated soon. Again, if 27.a7 then 27...Ng4+. After 27.Nxf3 Ng4+ wouldn't work so the logical move is 27...Ne4+ 28.Kg1 & Kg2 both are winning for Black. But I completely missed the text 28.Ke1 & N+c3. A remarkable game. |
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| Jun-29-07 |
| MaxxLange: This was too hard for me to solve. I saw the idea of the first sacrifice, but I could not find the follow up at all. |
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Jun-29-07
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| patzer2: Today's puzzle solution with 26...Bxf3!! is a decoy sacrifice which was one of several key moves Leko found over the board to undermine Kramnik's prepared (it was even computer checked) variation against the Ruy Lopez Marshall Attack Detailed analysis of the game can be found at http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...
and http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/eve.... According to this analysis, Black's set up for today's winning move began as early as 22...Bd3! and 21...Qg6!! |
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| Jun-29-07 |
| Tactic101: Not very popular this time around. Only a page of kibitzing. Maybe too many people saw this position. |
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Jul-01-07
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| Crowaholic: I settled on 26. ..Bxf3! quickly, noting that White must address the threat of mate in 2 with B+Q. I noticed that 27. Bc4 leads to mate in 3 and settled on 27. Nxf3 as White's best defence (though I'm not sure whether I also checked the possible king moves, anyway, they also lead to mate). I then saw that, after 27. ..Ng4+, most defences by White also lead to mate, but then I noticed that 28. Ke1 Qxf3 29. a7 would lead to complications. Alas, although I saw 29. ..Qf2+ 30. Kd1 and even that 31. Bxe3 is forced after 30. ..Ne3+, I didn't notice the winning skewer 31. ..Qf1+. Neither did I see 28. ..Nxc3!! in the line played in the game. |
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Jul-20-07
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| kingscrusher: I have done a video of this game here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqlC...
I hope you enjoy it :) |
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| Sep-26-07 |
| Cactus: <Marmot> are you serious? I couldn't quite tell... |
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| Nov-27-07 |
| The Rocket: Leko crushed Kramnik which very rarely happens(Kramnik had not lost a single game to Kasparov in his first WCM), Kramniks queens sac was obviously not sound and cost him the game, also very rare to see risky play form the normally solid and careful Kramnik. |
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Dec-18-07
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| alexrawlings: Why does black not take the rook off with 18. Bxe4? |
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| Mar-07-08 |
| Hesam7: From chesscafe's review on "From London to Elista":
<As intimated in the notes, Kramnik trusted the evaluation of his team, which trusted in the evaluation of its computers. In preparation, Kramnik’s group had evaluated all the way to 25…Qd3, but of course a limited amount of time can be spent on any given variation. Bareev explains:"Petya [Peter Svidler] put this position into the computer for about 30 seconds. A very powerful computer will say that this is won for Black within 90 seconds to two minutes. The fact is that it won’t tell you this within 10-15 seconds – and during analysis you rarely give it more than that, everything happened in a situation where there wasn’t enough time, and there were a lot of positions to check." Asked if a more powerful computer might have helped, Bareev responded "No. The capability that it had was more than enough, we just needed to hold on a little longer. But anyway, no one would’ve left it for 90 seconds. We would’ve given it another 15 seconds, and it again would’ve shown that it was won for White. We needed to give it 90 seconds, and the game would have ended in a draw." Co-author Levitov dryly notes, “A surprising thing happened. Volodya [Kramnik] lost a game without having made a single move of his own.” The conversation continues: Bareev: "He moved into the position after 25…Qd3 with the confidence that he had a big advantage. He got there and became convinced that Black had to resign. In principle, you don’t even have to be a computer here to calculate two moves ahead. We were blamed. What can I say about it, we blamed ourselves, too.” Levitov: “Did he shout at you?”
Bareev: “Justifiably.”
Levitov: “Did he call you arseholes?”
Bareev: “Yes.”
Levitov: “He said exactly that?”
Bareev: “He put it slightly differently.”
Levitov: “And he didn’t look Petya in the eye?”
Bareev: “Here, I can assure you, Petya wasn’t the only guilty one. Each of us did our bit in preparing this game.”> |
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| Aug-23-08 |
| myschkin: . . .
In a frank talk with <Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam> ("New in Chess" magazine) Kramnik shares his views on the crucial moments in the match, short draws (‘There should be more respect for the players’) and his ideas ... http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...
(dunno if it has been posted before; if so pardon me) |
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| Mar-17-09 |
| pom nasayao: i don't think Black's 15. . g5 is sound. |
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