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Sturmer vs The Turk (Automaton)
The Turk Show in London 1820  ·  French Defense: Normal Variation (000)  ·  0-1
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Dec-12-11
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  cocker: Why not start the puzzle on move 18? Would make it slightly less easy.
Dec-12-11  Madman99X: The solution is: 19... Rxc3 threatening to capture the queen or 20... Rc1# if the queen moves. If 20. Nxc3, then, well you've forced me into the "other" solution... Qf1+ 21. Rxf1 Rxf1#

My favorite line after Rxc3 is the kamikaze queen: 20. Qxg6+ hxg6 21. Nxc3 Bxe2 22. Nxe2 Qf3 23. Kc2 Qxe2+ (is it time to resign yet?) 24. Kb1 Rc7 25. Re1 Qc2#

(No, I didn't come up with that line on my own. Rybka helped.)

Dec-12-11
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  moronovich: Tailor made for AJ .
Dec-12-11
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  Patriot: 19...Qf1+ 20.Rxf1 Rxf1#
Dec-12-11
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  agb2002: Black has the bishop pair for two knights.

White's back rank is defenseless and the king doesn't have any squares to escape. Therefore, 19... Qf1+ 20.Rxf1 Rxf1#.

Dec-12-11  zb2cr: The Black Bishop at h6 is the key. This permits 19. ... Qf1+; 20. Rxf1, Rxf1#.
Dec-12-11  Penguincw: I saw the game a few weeks ago so got it instantly.
Dec-12-11
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  whiteshark: Fritz 0.1820
Dec-12-11
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  kevin86: A typical queen sac/a typical back row mate...Thank God it's Monday!
Dec-12-11  BOSTER: Maybe with the amazing appearance <The Turk> on the chess arena not only the idea to use a <computer> playing against the man was born, but not so obvious the idea of <cheating>.

But who knows, maybe the <cheating> in gambling was born even before the chess was invented.

Dec-12-11  TheoNov: Not to be contrarian, but Moret's play in this game is far from impeccable. His win is largely due to Sturmer's weak play.

- He missed the tactic 14...Nxe5, as someone else pointed out, but at least he played this on move 16.

- He missed the important idea of attacking the f4 pawn with 13.g5

- On move 15, he missed the only continuation that wins (others, including his text move, give Black equality at best), although, to be fair, it is quite a difficult one to see. Speaking of which, can you spot it?

Black to play and win: 15...?


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Dec-12-11  jackalope: <TheoNov> - it looks like <15. ... Nb4> opens some interesting possibilities. Is this the move you're referring to?
Dec-12-11
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  chrisowen: Turk I shall pluck you nether eh pet eel on a hook? Cochrane splashed out on this beast it ala murk queen aside mate delight, three dummi moves e2 h6 g3 fit to burst his gurn.
Dec-12-11
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  LIFE Master AJ: 19...Qf1+; and mate next move. (yawn)
Dec-12-11  MiCrooks: I think you sell Moret short Theo. I doubt he "missed" the tactic Nxe5 on move 14. When he played the move two moves later it much more effective as with the knight away from d4 the f2 square was available and Bxb5 means something. On move 14 what do you play after Nxe5 fxe5? Moret simply waited until the time was ripe and all of his pieces were developed (and his opponent made mistake) to rip open the position.
Dec-12-11  TheoNov: <jackalope> <it looks like <15. ... Nb4> opens some interesting possibilities.> That's it. After 15... Nb4, if 16.cxb4 then 16... Qc1+ 17.Qd1 Qe3+ and

A) 18.Qe2 Rc1#
B) 18.Be2 Rc1 wins the Q
C) 18.Ne2 Bxb5 19.Na3 Bxf4!! 20.gxf4 Bxe2! 21.Qxe2 Qc3+ and White loses either Q or R. E.g., 22.Kf2 Rxf4+ 23.Kg2 Re4 24.Qf2 Rg4+

(Please excuse any error in the forgoing... don't have my engine handy... had to recall the analysis from memory).

Dec-12-11  jackalope: <TheoNov> On second thought - the key to this appears to be the c3 pawn - if White declines the knight sac and plays <16. Qe2> instead, doesn't that thwart the attack? Qe2 guards the fork square (c2), White's Bb5 is attacking Black's unguarded Bd7 (forks the Rc8 and e6 pawn) and Black has no good entry to White's backfield. Yes?
Dec-12-11  bachbeet: I got it but I thought I was wrong because it was too easy. I thought I was missing some other move.
Dec-12-11
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  beenthere240: I think 16. Qe2 drops a piece after 16.... Nxd4.
Dec-12-11
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  Domdaniel: Thirty embarrassing seconds to notice a simple mate. I should get out more.
Dec-12-11  jackalope: <beenthere240> - <16. ... Nxd4> is not a valid move - <16. Qe2> is played in response to <15. ... Nb4>. Mouret finished this off in style!
Dec-12-11
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  gawain: Brute force. Black plays 19...Qf1+ followed by Rxf1#
Dec-12-11  stst: Q-sac, Q-sac, ...
It's Monday and Q-sac, bothers one to really look carefully whether it's a trap. Not much so, hence the simplest Q-sac again:
19... Qf1, 20.RxQ (only defense) RxR#

Funny that the WK is surrounded by its guards, but their awkward positions make them helpless. Is that so simple? Bed-time!

Dec-12-11  stst: A treat before bed-time:
<Its called 'Someday'>

Like this Someday - Something great might just happen Someday!! - and more importantly: So long we can say Someday, we have to celebrate!? - for what? - because we're still living!!!

Dec-13-11  TheoNov: <jackalope: if White declines the knight sac and plays <16. Qe2> instead, doesn't that thwart the attack?>

No, because after 16...Bxb5 17.Nxb5 (Qxb5 allows the N fork on c2) comes the amazing 17...Bxf4!! when every move White has loses. For instance:

a) 18. gxf4 18. Rxf4 19. Nd6 Rf2! 20. cxb4 (if QxR, then Nd3+) Rxe2+ 21. Kxe2 Qd4 when the marauding Q will mop up a couple of White's pieces plus the e-pawn.

b) 18. a3 Bxg3+ 19. Kd1 d4 20. axb4 Qd5 21. hxg3 Qxh1+ 22. Kc2 Qg1 23. c4 axb4 24. Qd1 d3+ 25. Qxd3 Rf2+ 26. Nd2 Qxa1

c) 18. N1a3 Bxe5 19. O-O-O Bxc3 20. Rhf1 Bg7+ 21. Kb1 Rxf1 22. Rxf1 e5

d) 18. Nd4 Bxe5 19. Nxe6 Bxc3+ 20. Kd1 Qc6 21. Nxf8
Bxa1 22. Qe6+ Kxf8 23. Rf1+ Kg7 24. Rf7+ Kg8 25. Qxc6 bxc6 (an utterly fearless king!!!)

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