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| Jan-06-06 | | Jarlaxle: In regards to promoting kramnik... there is no doubt that kramnik is a world class player, if not one of the best out today. but his failure to play in the big tournys and dodge every challenge given to him shows he is not world champion material and doesnt deserve promotion |
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| Jan-06-06 | | sucaba: <patzer2>: <<Flyboy216> While 21...Kd7? loses quickly, it seems Black is lost even with the "best defense" move 21...Be6!?
Playing it out with Fritz 8 gives the following analysis 21...Be6!? 22.Rxc3 b5(...)> <EmperorAtahualpa>:
<(...) Such a shame about 21...Kd7, Black had a good chance of winning!> I disagree with both. After 21. _ ♗e6 22. ♖xc3 ♖c8, White can repeat moves with 23. ♖d1+ ♔e8 24. ♖xc8+ ♗xc8 25. ♗c7 ♗d7 26. ♖e1+ ♔f8 27. ♖d1 ♔e8, but there doesn't seem to be a win. |
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| Jan-06-06 | | artemis: Jarlaxle: great handle!! Mine is after Entreri... I am going to have to threaten to demolish you in chess games at every opportunity;) Perhaps this illness, which sounds pretty bad, is the reason for both his poor level of play and his reluctance to play matches. If he knows he is not going to be up to par, then why not delay a little bit to try to get better and give it your best shot? I still believe that noone should discount his title of World Champion. He toppled the giant in 2000. No one has beaten him. He did defend his title once in 4 years. Because he has the title, however, does not make him the best in the world. Topalov is the best chess player in the world. Kramnik is World Champion. It is a close distinction, which should be remedied, but the distinction still exists. |
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| Jan-06-06 | | The17thPawn: <Patzer 2> Is <TheAussiePatzer> assumption about 14...exd4 leading to too much pressure from the white rooks correct or is their some other flaw. I can't see anything decisive without the benefit of a chess engine. Would you be willing to see what uncle Fritz has to say? |
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| Jan-06-06 | | Jarlaxle: Thank you entreri, defended his title once in 4 years.. exactly why he deserves no promotion... as to his illness, Tal was very sick when he defended his title againt Bo, but that didnt stop him |
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| Jan-06-06 | | Nezhmetdinov: I agree with Artemis |
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| Jan-06-06 | | samikd: <schizoidman: <samikd> I play the Kan quite often and Bxc3 is not good IMHO. I always retreat it to e7 after being chased by the a-pawn.> Why ? you don't think W's doubled pawns are bad for him ? or do you feel that you'd need the dark squared Bishop for the K-side ?
thanks for the reply, by the way |
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| Jan-06-06 | | cpryob123: I agree the Doubled pawns really do cause problems for white, and White follow up "attack" just caused him to lose his doubled pawns |
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| Jan-06-06 | | cpryob123: His ending tactics justify his earlier positional weakness, though. |
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| Jan-06-06 | | Xeeniner: why not 15. ...b5? |
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| Jan-06-06 | | patzer2: <sucaba> After <21...Be6 22. Rxc3 Rc8 23. Rd1+ Ke8> (diagram below),
click for larger viewWhite wins with 24. Rcd3! Bc4 25. Rd4 Bb5 26. Bc7! Kf8 27. Rd8+ Rxd8 28. Rxd8+ Be8 29. Bd6+ Kg8 30. Rxe8+  . |
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| Jan-06-06 | | patzer2: <Patzer 2 Is <TheAussiePatzer> assumption about 14...exd4 leading to too much pressure from the white rooks correct or is their some other flaw.> I agree with <TheAussiePatzer> that 14...exd4 gives White too much pressure. After 14... exd4 15. e5 Qa5 16. cxd4 Ng8 17. Qf3 Qc7 18. d5 h6 19. Be3  , Black's position is cramped and ugly: 
click for larger view[ Position after 14... exd4 15. e5 Qa5 16. cxd4 Ng8 17. Qf3 Qc7 18. d5 h6 19. Be3 ] Now Fritz 8 indicates Black may be able to hold for a bit in the face of a clear White advantage after 19...h5!? 20. Qg3 Bg4 21. h3 . However, I think most strong players would prefer a more active option over defending such a cramped position. Note: If 19...Qxc4?? in the above position, White mates in three after 20. Qxf7+ Kd8 21. Bb6+ Qc7 22. Bxc7#. |
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| Jan-07-06 | | sucaba: <patzer2> Yes, you are right, 21. _ ♗e6 22. ♖xc3 ♖c8 23. ♖d1+ ♔e8 24. ♖cd3 wins. |
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| Sep-13-07 | | Gnappo: Fantastic game by Kramnik! I didn't believe that he can do brilliances like this one.
It seems that Svidler plays too mechanicly here, maybe he can react before (16...g5!? 17 Rxf6 gxf4 18 cxd4 h3 19 g3) and not play 16... dxc3 that helps Kramnik to open the game and use his advantage of development activating his Rooks. |
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| Jul-29-12 | | vinidivici: whats happen after
14...exd4
15.e5 h6
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| Jul-29-12 | | vinidivici: any answer?
Bit lazy to calculate though |
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| Jul-29-12 | | vinidivici: whats up w/ 14...exd4? |
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| Jul-29-12 | | Shams: <vinidivici> <Bit lazy to calculate though> You don't say. ;) One line is: 14...exd4 15.e5 h6 16.exf6 hxg5 17.fxg7 Rg8 18.Rae1+ Kd7 19.Rxf7+ Kc6 20.Rf6+! and the King looks helpless. |
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| Jul-29-12 | | vinidivici: <Shams> <20.Rf6+! and the King looks helpless.> how about 20...Qxf6...? |
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| Jul-30-12 | | Shams: <vinidivici> doh! Sloppy of me, apologies. Well, as you can plainly see Black can't fight off three heavy pieces in the middle of an open board. :) |
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| Jul-30-12 | | vinidivici: Its okay sometimes we made a terrible mistake.
So whats the winning line after 14...exd4 in a very specific manner? |
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Jul-30-12
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After 14...exd4 15.e5 h6 16. Bh4, doesn't it just transpose back to the actual game? |
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| Jul-30-12 | | dzhafner: 14...exd4 15.e5 h6 16.exf6 hxg5 17.fxg7 Rg8 18.Rae1+ Kd7 19.Rxf7+ Kc6 20.Qg6+ Kc5 21.Re5+ (not cxd4+??? Qxd4+) Kxc4 Qc2. if ...dxc3 Qa4+ forced #
if ...Bd7 cxd4+ ...Kxd4 Qb2+ ...Kc4 Qb4+ |
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| Jul-30-12 | | vinidivici: ^ thanks for the thorough analysis.
Its a long way to win |
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Apr-12-24
 | | plang: 8 a3 is a real rarity first played by Matanovic in 1960 which must have caught Svidler by surprise. There are a number of more popular choices with 8 Nxc6 being the most popular. 9..Qa5 10 0-0..Qxc3!? 11 Nxc6..Qxa1 12 Qc2!..bxc 13 Bb2..Qa2 14 Ra1..Qxa1 15 Bxa1 would have been very promising for White. In fact, later in 2005 at the European Team Championship at Gothenburg Svidler did play 9..Qa5 and was able to draw Radjabov but he did not take the pawn on c3. In this game Svidler played the innovation 9..d6. After 14 Bg5! Svidler was not comfortable taking the piece with 14..exd 15 e5..Qa5 16 cxd as White would have had promising attacking chances. 19..Re8 would have been an improvement when Black has no problems after 20 Rfd1+..Bd7 21 Rac1..Re3. The decisive mistake was 20..Bxc4?' Kramnik thought that after 20..Kd7 21 Rxc3..Rad8 22 Rb1..Kc8 23 c5 White would have had a modest initiative. Svidler likely underestimated Kramnik's 21 Rfe1! expecting instead 21 Rfd1+..Kc8 22 Rxc3..b5 23 Re3..Rd8 when Black appears to be holding. Svidler had intended 21..Be6 only to realize that after 22 Rxc3..Rc8 23 Rd1+..Ke8 24 Rcd3! with the idea of Bc7 he would be lost. |
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