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|Mar-21-10|| ||TheChessGuy: "You have no chance to survive make your time."|
|Mar-21-10|| ||zanshin: <Say, do we have any games of <tpstar> vs. <phony benoni>? For, say, Michigan bragging rights?>|
What about T Palmer vs D Moody, 1999
|Mar-21-10|| ||WhiteRook48: lol that's an old one|
|Mar-21-10|| ||tpstar: What a perfect way to celebrate Wesley So graduating from high school, having one of my games as GOTD. How profound.|
The database is intended for master games, although one of their original sources had hundreds of Cadet games, yet as you can see there is room for non-master amateur games. They often accept submissions under the "interesting game" category, provided both players' names are known, or else a simultaneous game against a master could get into the database. I have used this game in two puzzle sets: Unpinning (Black to Play after 18. Rxf4), and Double Check (Black to Play after 25. Kg2). I remember looking at 25 ... Bh3+ but realized that 25 ... Be2+ also won so I went with that and he resigned. For the record, this was G/30.
This one has special significance as the lead entry in Game Collection: Chessgames.com members in action which features over 100 cg.com users. Back in 2004, there was group discussion about whether anyone besides <Honza Cervenka> had ever drawn a GM OTB, and then I did A Lein vs T Palmer, 2004 which led to me getting a player page. In 2005, an early thread on my page discussed putting together all of our best games, leading to the original Game Collection and now Game Collection: Chessgames.com members in action 2 as well.
After submitting or posting your games here, don't mind the riff raff. When people go way out of their way just to post mean comments on your game, it is simply because they are insanely jealous.
<Annie K.> Thanks for the great pun! ;>D
<sfm> Mad props. =)
Thanks everyone else for your kind words. :-)
|Mar-21-10|| ||SirChrislov: I recently heard talks about the 4...Bd6 line. Congrats Tony.|
|Mar-21-10|| ||PinnedPiece: What a great application of this internet meme (thx <An Englishman> for the link). Personally I like games like this a lot since they are within my range (well, just barely) of strategic thinking.|
|Mar-21-10|| ||patzer2: Tony, nice piece of combining attacking and defending moves with 18...Rxg5!! and the follow-up 19...Qe5! |
If 20. Rxf6, then 20...Qxg5 makes for an amusing double attack, simultaneously threatening mate and the overly ambitious Rook.
|Mar-21-10|| ||patzer2: If 21.Rxf6, then 21...Ke7! makes for an amusing double attack. Also in response to 21. Rxf6, another good choice of replies is 21...Qxf6 22. Qxg4 Ke7! or 21...O-O-O! .|
|Mar-21-10|| ||patzer2: One of my favorite Chess Books is Max Euwe's "Chess Master versus Chess Amateur" because it demonstrates how to refute weak amateur moves rarely seen in Master play.|
Tony's refutation of 11...g5?! was certainly Master level, and reminded me of some of those games in Euwe's book. In particular 18...Rxg5! and 19...Qe5! were defensive gems.
So, I for one, enjoy an occasional amateur game -- especially one where the amateur is an outstanding contributor like Tony Palmer and the play on the winning side (as in this game) is strong Master level.
P.S.: Seeing such games also offers a greater appreciation of the contributions of some of our Expert and Master level members.
|Mar-21-10|| ||patzer2: <Annie K> Enjoyed the pun, even though I had to look it up on wik to understand it. Thanks!|
|Mar-21-10|| ||Annie K.: <Thanks> - oh, yeah... - I tend to forget these things. ;s|
Indeed - thanks <patzer2>, <An Englishman>, and <PinnedPiece> for the compliments -
and yes, particularly thanks to <An Englishman> for providing the Wiki link. :)
Also, nice quips on the theme, <bumpmobile> and <TheChessGuy>.
And last but not least, thanks indeed to Tony for playing this very enjoyable game. =)
|Mar-21-10|| ||Bradah: I would call this patzer's game of the century. No, not you patzer1 and 2...|
<sfm: The temptation to make this kind of sac on the g-pawn is very often there.>
Even if that kind of sac was there, Only a patzer like me would do such a sac. Barbershops players plays better than that.
<This game demonstrates how real hollow it can be, something you don't learn from GM-games as they don't make sacs like this.>
There's nothing to learn, all it makes you is giggle.
<In games by players well under IM-level there's the added incentive to look for improvements and prove yourself right or wrong.>
Yeah, like GM Bu open up with h3.
<Bradah: ... where I can buy a 2001 elo rating.> You can't, that is your problem. If you have less than that, you will have to learn to play better chess, something much harder than to speak bad about the games of others.>
If I can't buy elo rating like these maybe we should settle it OTB, you, tpstar, against me. It will surely be a GOTD. You probably will call it "shame game of the day".
|Mar-21-10|| ||Bradah: The title should be, "All CG belongs to us".|
|Mar-22-10|| ||pulsar: <tpstar: What a perfect way to celebrate Wesley So graduating from high school, having one of my games as GOTD. How profound.>|
I actually had a good laugh seeing the GOTD when I opened CG today. As someone would say, "Someone gata sensa yuma."
|Mar-22-10|| ||pulsar: On the game, 12.Nxg5 can't be right. What with White having castled on the kingside. In fact, 9.Bg5 was inviting the kingside onslaught.|
A win's a win. :)
|Mar-22-10|| ||patzer2: <12.Nxg5 can't be right.> It's not, but Tony Parker <tpstar>'s refutation is Masterful and instructive.|
|Mar-22-10|| ||pulsar: <patzer2: <12.Nxg5 can't be right.> It's not, but Tony Parker <tpstar>'s refutation is Masterful and instructive.> Indeed, indeed.|
|Mar-22-10|| ||Bradah: <patzer2: <12.Nxg5 can't be right.> It's not, but Tony Parker <tpstar>'s refutation is Masterful and instructive.>|
I just have to tickle myself and I can't stop laughing. Instructive? Yeah, to a 5 years old maybe.:o)
|Mar-22-10|| ||patzer2: <Bradah> So did you figure out the entire sequence with 18...Rxg5!! and 19...Qe5! as decisive for Black after accepting the sacrifice? If so congratulations, but it wasn't so clear to me.|
Yes it's easy to take the sacrifice offer, but following up to win afterwards is not so easy. Yet Tony's play was flawless in accepting the sacrifice and giving back the material with a countersacrifice at just the right time.
Having coached Elementary, Junior High, and High School Sate Chess Champions, I can assure you such skill is far beyond that of a novice. Indeed, even for most strong club players such strong technique is useful and instructive.
|Mar-22-10|| ||kevin86: White stepped into a bear trap!|
|Mar-22-10|| ||Bradah: Let me tell you like it is. I just wish one of my opponent sac a piece like that. I will take that free gift anyday.|
Patzer2, you haven't seen barbershop games in the Philippines. I have seen many. Feel free to admire tony parker's game, no one is stopping you. But to me, it's a plain lousy game. I will never move Nxg5.
No, Tony want me to lie to myself, it's a GOTD. The game was executed masterfully. Wow!!! what a game indeed. Learn from the pro.
|Mar-22-10|| ||SPINK: this pun is amazing|
|Mar-23-10|| ||playground player: <zanshin> Thanks--that was a good game, although I couldn't decide who to root for.|
|Jun-13-10|| ||TheChessVids: @TheChessGuy I love that game, though Io is kind of easy.|
|May-21-15|| ||Abdel Irada: <But to me, it's a plain lousy game. I will never move Nxg5.>|
And did you stop to consider White's alternatives?
Strategically, he is already lost. If he retreats the bishop to g3 (the only alternative), Black continues 12. ...Nh5, threatening to win the bishop thanks to the pinned f-pawn. Once White attends to this, the knight moves to f4, and the counterattack is in full swing.
White of course can exchange his bishop for it, at the cost of not only the strategic disadvantage of two knights versus two bishops in a semi-open position where Black can make a pawn break at his leisure, but also of opening the g-file against his castled king.
Otherwise, the knight itself remains on its ideal attacking square, f4, from which it will be a menace for the rest of the game (which will probably not be long). How many POTDs and GOTDs have been decided by just such a knight, sacrificing itself at the right moment on g2 or h3?
Black's opening play with 4. ...Bd6 is rather unusual and provocative. White *should* of course have met this with 4. d4, maintaining a slight edge; d3 was too passive. Already the game is nearly equal.
And then White committed the classic strategic blunder in such closed formations: He castled prematurely on move 7, another thematic error we've seen punished time and again. From that moment, a slight positional disadvantage turned into a massacre; all Black has to do is bide his time and castle on the other wing with a ready-made kingside attack.
So, yes. I *would* call this game instructive. Not at the highest level, but that is White's fault for playing like last week's Tuna Surprise. You can ridicule the sac on g5, but the fact is that it was probably his best practical chance in a lost position.
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