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Maxim Turov vs Vladimir A Karagodin
RUS-ch sf 1997  ·  French Defense: Winawer. Exchange Variation Canal Attack (C01)  ·  0-1
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May-29-06  Nomen Nescio: My mental analysis stopped exatly where the game stopped.
May-29-06
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  WannaBe: <NakoSonorenses> I'm right behind you. What's your handle over there? Want a game? =)

The reason why some of us didn't get it, (I think), was because we're looking for the mate (in 2, 3). We're so used to that in a Monday puzzle. I did look at Nf3+, but didn't see an immediate mate.

<DoctorChess> If I tell you, I'd have to kill you.

May-29-06  Pepino: I'm happy that there are some easy puzzles also, so now and then. So we, the humble amateurs, can keep visiting this site and believe that we can play chess. Hahaha ;-)
May-29-06  prinsallan: Easy indeed, but hey... its monday ^^
May-29-06
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  jamesmaskell: As the week goes on, the puzzles get harder...this was pretty easy. The real test is if you can see the line, not just the move. A move in isolation in a puzzle is the aim, but its seeing what the point of the move is thats the real test.
May-29-06
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  OhioChessFan: <Ger7ry>, White had hopes of a perpetual.

LOL <monad> I did the same thing.

May-29-06
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  awfulhangover: Of course, it's easy, but I spent more than those 5 sec that I usually do on Mondays. I guess most did. Had to check if there were any counter attacks, but black had time to play Qe1+
May-29-06
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  EmperorAtahualpa: Yep, saw it all! Not very easy for a Monday puzzle, actually!
May-29-06  Halldor: Difficult Monday. I saw the mate pattern right away, but spent rather long time trying to find out if Black could really afford one move without a check, - and 36...Ka8 does the trick.

<NakoSonorense> There will surely be easier Mondays again, just wait and see.

May-29-06
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  EmperorAtahualpa: <DoctorChess> Leiden, The Netherlands.
May-29-06  Mountainman1: Took about 30 seconds. Since the Queen is on an open file once the Knight is removed, and the Knight has a check on the trapped King, it was kind of straight forward. It was all about Tempo today.
May-29-06  ChessPieceFace: i'm going to go ahead and chock this one up for myself...i saw 34. ...Nf3+, then either 35.Kg2 or 35.Kh1, followed by 35. ...Qe1, then regardless of white's move, 36. ...Qg1#. which is pretty much what happened. if black had gotten into problems after Nxc6+, i wouldn't count myself having gotten it, but as <dzechiel> points out, white runs out of checks rather quickly.

<Doctor Chess> i know i'm not considered a regular yet, i just started with the site recently, but i'm from fairfax, virginia. the only reason i even mention it, is because me and <RandomVisitor> are from the same town. as far as i know we don't know each other? small world, eh?

May-29-06
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  dakgootje: <<DoctorChess>If I tell you, I'd have to kill you.> Yes, wannabe doesnt want to say to you where he lives, else you might realise he is your grandad, but by refusing to say so youll never know it.

<small world, eh?> And it only gets smaller and smaller

May-29-06
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  EmperorAtahualpa: By the way, I'm wondering, shouldn't the names of these players be inverted, so that Maxim Turov is playing the Black pieces?

It would be weird if Turov is playing White, because he is a good player but he would have been defeated pretty easily by a player who has only 1 game in the database!

May-29-06
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  dakgootje: <EmperorAtahualpa> not sure, even though of course black was playing far stronger BUT then Toruv must've played the French Defense, which would have been very strange for him to do
May-29-06
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  EmperorAtahualpa: <dakgootje> He might have wanted to try another opening against a weak opponent. You see that a lot with top players playing against lower rated players.
May-29-06
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  Kings Indian: easy monday puzzle! I got all the moves.
May-29-06
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  dakgootje: Yes, but then it would be his onnly time to play the French Defense and after all Karagodin was rated around 2256, so you cant say his opponent was very weak. If you want to try a new opening then do it in a simul or something.
May-29-06
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  kevin86: Black loves to have mated with his queen starting on e1-but alas,his own piece was there. The solution:move the piece with check and then bring the queen down. White's attempt at a perpetual is ironically blocked by his own piece. After the king hides in the corner-black is out of checks and out of hope.
May-29-06
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  patzer2: <Kevin86> Good observation! There's a clearance theme at work here, in addition to the mate and waiting move tactics.
May-29-06  bigdirtyfoot: I'm starting to like these puzzles. I actually got this one, along with following the Black Queen's open file.
May-29-06  Mendrys: Very nice game by black. After white's attack on the kingside was thwarted by black he had no plan. 25. Rfe1? seems to be the decisive mistake. 25 Bc1 keeping the knight from the neat tactic on e3 was vital. 26. Qh1 only hastened his downfall. 26. Rxe2 Nxg2 27. Kxg2 getting a R+N for Q is better than losing a piece outright.
May-30-06  Sporka Child: I find it funny how many people congratulate themselves and find the need/urge to post how fast they got the daily puzzles here. I have been seriously training off and on for a few years now, and I eat 100-200 puzzles like these daily, sometimes more. Many of which are standard combinational ideas/themes that appear over and over and over again. Honestly you aren't a super hero if you solve a puzzle like this in 30 seconds or less. You just sound silly bragging about it. Solving positions like these are something akin to learning your times tables in math. Can you imagine a grown adult bragging about such nonsense? "OH OH OH I solved 5x5 in 2 seconds flat" ... give me a break.

ANY chess player worth their salt would be able to solve almost any of the puzzles of the day posted in a relatively short time span. They aren't that tough, not even the Sunday ones. Go out and buy some books with tactical puzzles or better yet, buy software that feeds you positions like these. Then solve more than 1 a day before you start thinking you are hot stuff. After awhile, maybe some of you will stop trying to prop your egos up by posting such silliness here.

May-30-06
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  dakgootje: <and I eat 100-200 puzzles like these daily, sometimes more.> then your seriously addicted!

but indeed youve got a point, mostly the mon-wed puzzles are easy enough to refrain from posting that youve got the puzzle, as most of the people here around dont really mind and thus dont even care if you post and else dont remember afterwards. Luckily there are also persons like patzer2 and some other who post things worth reading.

May-30-06  ChessPieceFace: <Sporka Child> i guess people bragging they got the monday puzzle is a bit over the top, but have some sympathy for those of us who have never had any serious training, and just like to look at a nice chess game now and then. i (i'm speaking for myself here) often have trouble with the puzzles because i'm a very low rated player, if i even warrant a rating at all. just because you're very good doesn't mean me or someone else isn't very bad. i would suggest just ignoring posts you don't like rather than berating people below you.
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