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Ivan Sokolov vs Simon Kim Williams
Reykjavik Open (2006), Reykjavik ISL, rd 2, Mar-07
Dutch Defense: Classical. Huisl Variation (A96)  ·  0-1

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Jun-05-08  johnlspouge: <<zenpharaohs> wrote: [snip] If you always put yourself in the position of the player who gains by the problem, then this can make sense.

But if you consider how you might use the knowledge you get from the problem, perhaps you will be on the wrong side - that you will have to defend. And defense normally requires you to handle all the successful attacking lines.>

Occasionally, the puzzles involve trying to draw, so sometimes explicitly "I" am the defender. Even when "I" am to win, my "solution" must win against all defenses, so implicitly "I" am the defender, too.

"You know these things as thoughts, but your thoughts are not your experiences, they are an echo and after-effect of your experiences: as when your room trembles when a carriage goes past. I however, am sitting in the carriage and often I am the carriage itself."

Friedrich Nietzsche

Chess imitates Life. Perhaps one needs to be both White and Black at once :)

In general, I enjoy your comments greatly. Thanks for responding.

Feb-13-09  notyetagm: 33 ... ?


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33 ... ♖c2xf2!


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<patzer2: For today's Thursday puzzle solution, <<<the demolition 33...Rxf2! generates a mating attack.>>>>

Jun-20-17
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  FSR: Simon Says.
Jun-20-17  Everyone: Simon's Dutch courage is not for <Everyone>
May-01-20  stacase: A Rook sacrifice 33...Rxf2 looks like the ticket as it threatens mate essentially forcing 34.Rxf2 and then 34...Rc1+ naturally follows forcing 35.Rf1 Then it's a choice, between 35...Qe3+ or 35...Rc2 threatening mate again. The Queen check allows White's King to escape to h3 and a King hunt from there. The former is better.

Besides that:

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May-01-20
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  OhioChessFan: I tried 35...Qe3+, which isn't as clean as 35...Rc2.
May-01-20  newzild: From the starting position, my main line followed the game as far as 37. Qh1 and now, instead of 37...Qe3+ as in the game, the first winning move I saw was 37...Qxb5, with the horrible threat 38...Bd4+.
May-01-20  agb2002: Black has a rook and a bishop for both knights and four pawns.

White threatens Nxc8.

The white castle looks weak. This suggests 33... Rxf2:

A) 34.Kxf2 Rc2+ and mate in two.

B) 34.Rxf2 Rc1+ 35.Rf1 Rc2

B.1) 36.Rf2 Qe1+

B.1.a) 37.Rf1 Qe3+ 38.Kh1 Qe2 wins.

B.1.b) 37.Kg2 Rxf2+ 38.Kh3 Qf1+ 39.Kg4 Qe2+ 40.Kf5 (40.Kh3 Qh5#) 40... Qc2+ 41.Kg4 Qg6+ 42.Kh3 Qh5#.

B.2) 36.Qd5 Qe3+ 37.Kh1 Qe2 wins.

C) 34.Qd5 Rxf1+ 35.Kxf1 Rc1+ 36.Kf2 Rc2+ and mate in three.

May-01-20  Brenin: Great finish, but 30 ... f4, allowing a better defence with 31 Qxf4, was unnecessary: even stronger would have been an immediate 30 ... Qe2, leaving the P on f5 to prevent Kg4 or Ke4 in the event of a King hunt, e.g. 31 Rf1 Rc1 32 Rxc1 Rxc1 33 e7 Qf1+ 34 Kf3 Rc2.
May-01-20  morfishine: <33...Rxf2>
May-01-20  SpamIAm: <newzild>, in your line with 37...Qxb5 what about 38.Qa8+ Kh7 39. Qe4+ winning the rook?
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May-01-20  Louben: 33...Rxf2 is quite obvious (especially when you know that this is a puzzle!) but it is more difficult to see that 35...Rc2 is better than the tempting 35...Qe3+ after which the win is less straightforward.
May-01-20
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May-01-20
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May-01-20
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  chrisowen: People f2 in nine no?
May-01-20  King.Arthur.Brazil: In view of few choices, the sequence started with 34.♖f2! seemed easy to me. However, is a puzzle. In a real game, many times such a situation occurs and you play like a normal end. Sure that Black has little chances if he doesn't do something on the ♔side. I saw all of this week puzzles, but I don't get much to comment. I hope that noone cared about it.

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May-01-20  AlicesKnight: I saw most of this; a neat finish, .and not easy to see it coming
May-01-20
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May-01-20  tatarch: 30...f4 is great. Good Sunday puzzle.
May-01-20
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  chrisowen: Added up the scores no?
May-01-20  stacase: So instead of 34.Rxf2 what if White moves 34.Qd5 supported by the Knight and removing the mate threat? White has a waiting Pawn swarm and trading Queens would be a goal.

34.Qd5 ... Rg2+
35.Kh1 ... Re2+
36.Qxe4...Rxe4
37.Nxc8

Looks sweet for White if that's the way it would have gone.

May-01-20  Brenin: <stacase> Not so sweet for White: 34 Qd5 Rxf1+ 36 Kxf1 Rc1+ 37 Kf2 Rc2+ 38 Kf1 (if Kg1 Qe1 mate) Qe2+ 39 Kg1 Qe1 mate.
May-01-20  stacase: <Brenin> Thanks for the reply. I hadn't figured all of the lines from the "What If?" for 34.Qd5.

I had looked at the previous posts to see if 34.Qd5 was mentioned, it wasn't. So Overlooked? Probably not. Not mentioned and dismissed out of hand - most likely. Thanks again (-:

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