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| AniamL: Oh, the power of a mobile queen. |
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| Jul-03-06 |
| think: For those who may not know, the pun refers to Penn and Teller, comedic magicians. 12. exd5 looks like the major mistake to me. Whats wrong with Qb3? |
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| Jul-03-06 |
| mack: <For those who may not know, the pun refers to Penn and Teller, comedic magicians.> Whose recent series, 'BS', was just that. |
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| Jul-03-06 |
| EmperorAtahualpa: <12. exd5 looks like the major mistake to me. Whats wrong with Qb3?> <think> I agree, White's 12th move looks like a fatal mistake. But White also created a weak pawn structure with 6.e4 and 7.f3. |
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Jul-03-06
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| Phony Benoni: I agree that 6.e4 probably isn't best here, and 7.f3 is just too slow. It cannot be a good idea to take time setting up the Maroczy Bind if Black can play ...d5 immediately. 7.Nxc6 seems to be the most common move--Tartakower himself played it against Euwe in 1950--but after 7...bxc6 Black has a fine game with ...d5 coming soon. I was thinking about 23.Kc1 for a minute until I noticed the thematic pin: 23...Qc3+ 24.Qc2 Rxb1+ 25.Kxb1 Bd3. Nice to see an attack based primarily on diagonals rather than files. |
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| Jul-03-06 |
| zb2cr: Just to wrap it up:
If 25. Kc1, Rxb1#.
If 25. Ke1, the easiest way to win is 25. ... Rxb1, which wins both White's remaining pieces for the Rook. |
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| Jul-03-06 |
| EmperorAtahualpa: <I was thinking about 23.Kc1 for a minute until I noticed the thematic pin> <Phony Benoni> Why is this called a "thematic pin"? I'm not familiar with this term. |
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Jul-03-06
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| kevin86: <zb2cr>After 25  e1  e3+ 26 e2  xb1# is fastest,isn't it?}The queen is quite nimble-that's what makes it so valuable! |
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Jul-03-06
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| suenteus po 147: I hope this week is Savvy Week! |
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Jul-03-06
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| Phony Benoni: A "thematic" pin only in that it fits with the motto of the day: "Pin and Teller". |
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| Jul-03-06 |
| zb2cr: <kevin86>,
Larry Evans, in his column in Chess Life & Review, had something similar happen. In commenting on a game, he wrote that a certain short move sequence would "win the Queen". A reader wrote in, recommending a different short move sequence, which would: "...win bigger game--the King." Evans wryly commented: "Right you are. Keep your eye on the doughnut and not on the hole." His comment applies here. Thanks for contributing to my education. |
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Jul-03-06
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| dakgootje: can you still call Rxe2 a sac? Well yes it sacs material but almost all the following moves are nearly forced |
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| Jul-03-06 |
| MrMelad: <dakgootje: can you still call Rxe2 a sac? Well yes it sacs material but almost all the following moves are nearly forced> A sacrifice that doesn't lead to a forced win is often called a mistake, so I guess most good sacs lead to a forced win.. Ofcourse there are some sacrifices that are more beautiful then others because the forced win is not as obvious as it is in (four two letters words in a row!) this game. |
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Jul-03-06
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| ajile: Brutal demolition of White. White needed to defend the Nc3 on move 12. Qc2 looks OK. |
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Jul-04-06
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| dakgootje: Nah not neccessary that a sac leads to a forced win. Most positional sacs dont and a lot of justified sacs just lead to a good attack or a better position |
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| Jul-07-06 |
| MrMelad: a better position leads to a forced win usualy :) |
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Jul-07-06
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| keypusher: <can you still call Rxe2 a sac? Well yes it sacs material but almost all the following moves are nearly forced> I think Spielmann would not have called it a sacrifice, but rather a combination (or the first move of a combination). He reserved the term <sacrifice> for cases where compensation for the lost material was speculative, long-term and uncertain. So I guess 4. b4 in the Evans Gambit would meet his definition of a sacrifice, but ...Rxe2+ here wouldn't. Nor would 2. c4 in the Queen's Gambit, since black can't keep the extra pawn. I think it's fine to call ...Rxe2+ either a sacrifice or a combination, as long as people can agree (or agree to disagree) on their definitions! |
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| Jul-11-06 |
| zb2cr: Spielmann, in his book <The Art of Sacrifice>, distinguished 2 categories of sacrifice. 1. The "sham sacrifice", which led to forced lines with either mate, obvious material advantage, or obvious positional advantage. 2. The "real sacrifice", which <keypusher> referred to above, characterized by taking on a certain degree of risk. I remember his comment on a game with the defensive master Akiba Rubenstein, concerning his sacrifice of a Rook: "This was as far as the sacrifice was calculated. Black will be down a Rook, but he drives the White King up to the 4th rank. Such an attack must succeed!". Well, yes, I suppose...if you have the playing strength and iron nerves of a world-class player. |
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sac: 17...Rxe2+