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May-11-06 | | Ezzy: 8 Qd2 is a change for Svidler, he always played 8 g4 in the past. 11 Ng3 is different from Kramnik who played 11 c4 against Topalov in last years M-Tel masters. |
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May-11-06 | | Dionyseus: What's Topalov's idea with Na7? Is he planning Nc8 and then Nb6? |
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May-11-06 | | Dionyseus: Yasser Seirawan is giving live commentary about this game on the Playchess server. |
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May-11-06 | | percyblakeney: ...and Shipov comments the game in Russian on the online link here: http://www.chesspro.ru/main/index.h... |
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May-11-06 | | Ezzy: <Dionyseus: What's Topalov's idea with Na7? Is he planning Nc8 and then Nb6?> I think he might prefer his bishop on c6 with pressure on e4. |
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May-11-06
 | | Open Defence: Svidler exchanged on a7 .. I must say that either I don't understand his moves at all or he has made a few inaccuracies... though most people will agree to the former .. hehehehehe |
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May-11-06
 | | tamar: The light cavalry attack with ...Nb5 didn't look too dangerous, but combined with ...a4 and ...d5 would give Topalov the kind of flexibility he thrives on. This is how White plays when he is aiming for a draw. |
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May-11-06 | | dakgootje: didnt realise at first that the game was played now... |
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May-11-06 | | strobane: Looks like a 71 move draw |
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May-11-06 | | dramas79: Draw official! |
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May-11-06
 | | Open Defence: yay!! I have recovered my chessbucks and made a profit too :-D |
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May-11-06 | | suenteus po 147: <This is how White plays when he is aiming for a draw.> If this is true, then this is where the "no-draw rule" will benefit vicious players. Topalov has been training himself these last two years (at least) to push every game to the maximum (even to his own detriment in several cases) while most other players, like Svidler, take shorter draws to conserve strength, etc. A few more long draws like this and Svidler might end up a punching bag while Topalov is still swinging in the 9th round like he's just getting started. Stamina is going to become even more of a major necessity for top level chess if more tournaments start adopting this no-draw rule. |
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May-11-06
 | | WannaBe: Very educational game, Topalov didn't castle in this game. Must look at this game more. |
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May-11-06
 | | chancho: Anand won against Bacrot. Kamsky and Ponomariov drew. |
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May-11-06 | | you vs yourself: <WannaBe> Anand didn't castle either. He exchanged his 2 roooks and a pawn(11 points) for a queen(9). I guess once you reach 2800, you can forget about general rules:) Tomorrow, they will play each other. Let's see how many rules they'll break. |
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May-11-06 | | notyetagm: <you vs yourself: <WannaBe> Anand didn't castle either. He exchanged his 2 roooks and a pawn(11 points) for a queen(9).> I made this point to some fool who wanted to lecture me about the "relative values of the pieces." There is no such thing! The only things that matters is the concrete analysis of the position on the board. We use these "relative values" as crutches for our inability to deeply analyze the consequences of exchanges. The Anand game is a great example. Normally two rooks and a pawn (11 pawns) are worth more than a queen (9.75 pawns). But Anand saw that <in this particular position> he would gain the advantage by "losing" material. Kudos for Anand for looking deeply into the position and penetrating to the truth: his queen was stronger than the enemy rooks plus pawn <in that particular position>. |
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May-11-06 | | Ezzy: <...are worth more than a queen (9.75 pawns).> That's a new one for me. I thought it was 9.758 pawns. :-) |
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May-11-06 | | Ezzy: Svidler,P (2743) - Topalov,V (2804) [B80]
Mtel Masters Sofia BUL (1), 11.05.2006
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Be3 e6 7.f3 b5 8.Qd2 <This a new move for Svidler, he always (exclusively) plays 8 g4> 8...b4 9.Nce2 e5 10.Nb3 Nc6 11.Ng3< Kramnik beat Topalov with 11 c4 in last years M-Tel Masters.> 11...Be6 12.0–0–0 Qc7 13.f4N <This is a new move, 13 Kb1 has previously been played.> 13...h5 <Direct and to the point, threatening 13...h4 winning the e4 pawn.> 14.h4 a5 <Again direct and to the point, threatening 14...a4 15 Na1 Bxa2.> 15.f5 Bd7 16.Kb1 Rb8 17.Be2 Na7 <The bishop will be better on c6 with pressure on e4.> 18.Bxa7< Strange move giving up your black squared bishop in these type of positions, but what do I know>. 18...Qxa7 19.Qd3 Bb5 20.Qf3 Bc6 21.Nd2 Qc5 22.Nb3 Qb6 23.Nd2 <Seems like a draw offer.> 23...Be7< No draw> 24.Nc4 Qc5 <Threatening the 25 ..d5 break> 25.Ne3 <White cannot allow 25...d5> 25...a4 26.Bc4 Bd8 27.b3 Bb6 28.Rd3 axb3 29.cxb3 Ra8 30.Rc1 Qa5 31.Rc2< Threatening 32 Bxf7+ Kxf7 33 Nc4 Qa7 24 Rxd6 Bb5 25 Nxb6 looking good for white.> 31...Ke7 32.Nd5+ <White cannot play 32 Bxf7 ( no check ) now because of 32...Bxe3> 32...Bxd5 33.Bxd5 Rac8 34.Rxc8 Rxc8 35.Bc4 Rh8 36.Rd2 Qc5 37.Qd1 Ba7 <I think a much stronger move for Topalov was [37...Qe3 38.Rd3 Qf2 39.Rxd6 <(39.Qf3 Bd4 40.Qxf2 Bxf2 41.Kb2 Ra8 Threatening 42...Ra5 when black has some initiative due to 43..Bxg3 44 Rxg3 d5 and eventually black gangs up on whites weak f5 pawn.)> 39...Bd4 40.Rxd4 Qxd4 41.Qxd4 exd4 42.Kc2 Kd6 43.Kd3 Ke5 and black looks good.> 38.Rc2 Qe3 <Too late, white has counterplay with Rc7+> 39.Bd3 Bc5 40.Qf3 Rd8 41.Be2 Qf4 42.Nxh5 Qxh4 <42...Qxe4 43.Nxf6 Qxf3 44.Bxf3 Kxf6 45.g4 Would be more exciting.> 43.Nxf6 gxf6 44.g3 Qg5 45.Qg4 Rh8 46.Qxg5 fxg5 47.Bg4 Kf6 48.Rc1 Rh2 49.Rc2 Rh6 50.Rc1 Bf2 51.Rd1 Kg7 52.Rd3 Bd4 53.Kc2 Kf6 54.Rd2 Rh1 55.Rd1 Rh8 56.Kd3 Rc8 57.Ke2 Rc3 58.Rd3 Rc5 59.Bf3 Ke7 60.Rd2 Rc3 61.Rd3 Rc8 62.Rd2 Rh8 63.Kf1 Rc8 64.Ke2 Rg8 65.Kf1 Rh8 66.Rc2 Bc5 67.Kg2 Kf6 68.Be2 Rh7 69.Rc1 Rh8 70.Rc2 Rh7 71.Rc1 Rh8 <There is no progress to be made. ½–½>I have a feeling Topalov would have had good winning chances had he played 37..Qe3. Topalov always seemed to have the upper hand in this game. Nice steady start by Topalov. |
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May-12-06 | | AdrianP: My feeling on the opening is that 13. f4 was home preparation, but f5 might have been improvisation, aimed at exploiting Topalov's ...h5 (i.e. close up the centre and gang-up on the h5 pawn). I think Svidler's original intention with f5 was to bust up the centre superquick, and it may well be that was still the way to go. |
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May-12-06
 | | Open Defence: I think castling in this game would have deprived him of his main initial counter play .. the pawn storm against the White ♔ .. further, since White had already advaced pawns on the ♕ side, castling there would turn what was to become White's liability into a strength ...in my humble opinion anyway |
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May-12-06 | | runners: Great game!Vesko had winning chances,but with 2-3 poor moves he drew.I like Vesko very much!And I'm Bulgarian. |
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May-12-06 | | Ezzy: <AdrianP - but f5 might have been improvisation, aimed at exploiting Topalov's ...h5 (i.e. close up the centre and gang-up on the h5 pawn).> I think it was probably forced due to the threat of 14...a4 15 Na1 Bxa2 winning a pawn. |
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May-12-06 | | MagnaPsygnosis: Very Good game, and it even supports my previuos statements completely,,,, Topalov can be legend material if (and only if) he can keep playing like this.) Here the true meaning of the Sicilian Defense\ Najdorf variation are expressed:
The white knight twins were helpless on the queenside thanks to the a6 ..... b5 sequal. BUT...Peter Svidler replied with the correct STRATEGY... convert the queenside (potential but evitable) attacks from the queenside to the kingside via the center. Bothe are champions in my books (although far from legends) |
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Jun-07-06 | | you vs yourself: 6...e6 and then 9...e5 are fascinating moves, considering the loss of tempo for black. Topy plays 6...e6 first to prevent black's c3 knight from going to a comfortable square(d5). After 8...b4, pushing the c3 knight away to an awkward sqaure, 9...e5 is played. This move by black of course opens up the light square bishop and drives white's central knight away, limiting its control over black's territory. I was playing the najdorf as black on FICS and after 6 moves, I realized that I don't have a proper plan(actually that's true for all openings I play). But now, I have a better idea: push white's knights to "uncomfortable" squares and use your own pawns to gain more space in the opening. |
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Nov-28-15 | | PJs Studio: Do these players not like each other? This game was a grueling draw. Many moves Topolov probed whites position after move 47 with little effort/little risk/little reward potential. It was like Topolov was just being tough... Which is absolutely fine but. Whew, nasty! |
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