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 | | chancho: <shr0pshire> Thanks. |
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| Sep-29-07 | | fromoort: Anand has really shown his determination to win this championship. You can see it in his games. In an interview on chessvibes.com about his win over Morozevich, he said that he could have taken a draw, but felt that his position justified him playing on for a win. I am very happy for him. |
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| Sep-29-07 | | Perley: <shr0pshire: <Perley <HO-LY CRAP! How did Grischuk blow that!>> Grischuk didn't blow anything. In fact, it was talented play by Anand to draw it. It took precise play to draw and that is what happened. Can you tell me where Grischuk made a mistake because everyone who I was kibitzing with believed Grischuk was playing the correct moves?>
I must say that I was being a bit facetious. I know that he did not 'blow it' it was just Anand being the greatest endgame player there is today (in my opinion anyway). I did go over this with Deep Shredder and yeah there were no mistakes made by either of them. Again you just have to recognize that Anand is god when it comes to end games. |
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| Sep-29-07 | | Brettwith2ts: <Here comes Anand to win the world championship with no loses! The man is a machine.> Yeah, but from where I'm sitting, they all seem like machines, even, sometimes, when they lose. |
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| Sep-29-07 | | you vs yourself: Interview with Vishy and it also has the last 5 mins of the game(and no, Grischuk didn't play Ke4:) In this video, he also explains why he didn't play h5 on move 53 and 54 http://www.europe-echecs.com/articl... |
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| Sep-29-07 | | Themofro: <you vs. yourself> Very interesting interview (really shows you how little you know about rook endings =)). Thanks for posting it! |
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| Sep-29-07 | | you vs yourself: GM Kaidanov analyzing this game for ICC: http://webcast.chessclub.com/Mexico... <Themofro> You're welcome! |
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| Sep-29-07 | | shr0pshire: <You vs Yourself> I was listening to that analysis live, and I must say that I was critical of some of the analysis GM Kaidanov. Right around move 29 or 30, I tuned in to hear GM Kaidanov analyze the position. First, Kaidanov said that if traded down into a knight or a rook ending with the pawns on the board white would have the upper hand, which wasn't true at all. And he also implied that black would have to trade down immediately which wasn't true. I made a big stink about this on FICS at the time that I didn't think GM Kaidanov understood this endgame around move 30. It didn't seem to be until move 39 or so when Kaidanov started saying there were more drawing chances than white had chances to win. I know I wasn't the only one who wasn't impressed with his analysis during the game. |
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| Sep-29-07 | | you vs yourself: <shr0pshire> I think this is the revised analysis that was done after the game. Of course, we also must be considerate to some of these regular GMs who have to explain super GMs' ideas live. With the time they have, mistakes are unavoidable. Mig was joking about Larry Christiansen's plight during Kramnik-Anand the other day. You have to hear his podcast on round 10 where he discusses it: http://webcast.chessclub.com/Mexico... |
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| Sep-29-07 | | Akavall: I don't think Grischuk ever had a win in this game. I played around with Rybka for a while and nothing. Engines fairly rarely miss wins; it's just that they often see "wins" that are not there. |
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| Sep-29-07 | | ongyj: This kind of endgame play from Black... seems to take real lots of guts and precision to defend for the entire engame(which was quick to be reached). Why don't Anand opt something simplier? I mean, he's in the lead and defending the tournament advantage score seems wise. Perhaps he's out to impress his fans, as well as gaining new ones ^Ô^ Nevertheless, really good stuff, akin to one of the Aronian-Topalov marathon match where Topalov defended with best play to draw. |
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| Sep-29-07 | | arnaud1959: Now, nobody can say "Well, Anand is strong in the middle game but at this level if he plays an endgame.....". He even showed that he is pretty good at it. His weekness? He cannot stand players who take time to think (like yesterday). Maybe it makes him nervous. |
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| Sep-29-07 | | Scarecrow: There's no one left alive... must be a draw... so the blackcap barons toss a coin to settle the score... |
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| Sep-29-07 | | Ulhumbrus: Chessvibes: <Anand had emerged out of the opening with a slightly worse position but it all seemed to be a typical slight Vishy-disadvantage that wouldn’t get him closs to a loss – a strategy we have seen before in this WCC. 40…Kc8? however was a big mistake after which the cunning 41.Rc2! allowed White to free his rook. Move 35 might have been the only moment though when White was clearly winning according to Grischuk. Anand himself said he knew the draw was in the pocket after 58…f5.> |
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| Sep-29-07 | | chessmoron: Ian Rogers comments with players own analysis:
http://main.uschess.org/content/vie... |
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| Sep-29-07 | | notyetagm: <chessmoron: Ian Rogers comments with players own analysis: http://main.uschess.org/content/vie...;
GM Rogers is becoming my favorite annotator, along with GM Marin. |
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| Sep-29-07 | | notyetagm: From GM Rogers:
<52.Rd4?
This is where Grischuk misses his chance to throw the World Championship tournament wide open. After 52.h5! Ra2 53.Kd5 Kg5 54.Kc4 Black has many tries here but they all seem to fail, e.g. 54...f5 (54...Rb2 55.Rd5+ Kf6 56.Rb5! gives White just enough time to bring his king across to the a pawn, while; 54...Kf4 55.Kb4 Rf2 56.Kxa4 Rxf3 57.Rxf3+ Kxf3 58.g5 ! is just too slow.) 55.Kb4 fxg4 56.fxg4 Kxg4 57.Rd5 and, since 57...Rh2 58.Kxa4 Rxh5 59.Rxh5 Kxh5 60.Kb5 is one tempo too slow, White will win the a pawn without allowing any counterplay on the kingside. > |
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| Sep-29-07 | | notyetagm: It's just amazing when you think of all the endgame mistakes made by the world top player's in this tournament: 1) Gelfand's ... h4-h3?, throwing away a draw versus Grischuk 2) Aronian's h2-h4?, throwing away a win versus Morozevich And here Grischuk misses 52 h4-h5!, with a winning rook endgame. |
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| Sep-29-07 | | Akavall: What about 52.h5! Ra2 53.Kd5 Kg5 54.Kc4 Kf4 55.Kb4 f5
click for larger viewDoes white have anything better than
56. Kxa4 fxg4 57. fxg4 Kxg4 58. Rd5
click for larger viewIt doesn't look like white can win this. |
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| Sep-30-07 | | mrbiggs: I love how Ke4 was played before a draw was agreed. |
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| Sep-30-07 | | Akavall: It probably wasn't really played. It's just that the kings are put in the center when the game is a draw. And sometimes it is a legal move, so that gets picked up. |
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| Oct-01-07 | | fidelc: 14 Bxe6 is interesting |
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| Oct-02-07 | | Resignation Trap: Grischuk arrived at the board in time for this game: http://russiachess.org/images/stori... . |
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Oct-02-07
 | | Eggman: Both players refer to 40...Kc8 as an oversight: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ta_zEkKQ... |
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| Dec-25-07 | | Hesam7: It seems that White should have played 34 ♖c2 opting for the knight ending instead of the rook ending. The game might continue 34...♘e5 35 ♖xc3 ♖xc3 36 ♘xc3 ♘d3+ 37 ♔d2 ♘xf2 38 ♔e3 ♘g4 39 ♔f4 ♘f6 40 ♘b5
click for larger viewAnd it seems that Black is losing, if he moves the a-pawn there follows: ♘d6-♘f5 and the h-pawn goes. The above line is not completely forced (Black can avoid the rook exchange) but it seems that it is a better try than the game continuation. |
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