Vesna Rozic vs Maria Velcheva (2008)

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Vesna Rozic vs Maria Velcheva
Dresden Olympiad (Women) (2008), Dresden GER, rd 5, Nov-17
Formation: Queen Pawn Game: London System (D02) · 1-0

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Aug-29-18		NBZ: Ah SF tells me my suggestion is absolutely terrible: 33. ... d4? 34. Qd8+! Kg7 35. Re4 with Rg4+ coming is devastating.

Aug-29-18		Walter Glattke: 36.-Qxe3 37.Bg6+ Kg8 38.fxe3 36.-Qc7 37.Bg6+ Kg8 38.Bxf7+ Qxf7 39.Rg3+ Kf8 40.Qd8+ Qe8 41.Rg8+ Kxg8 42.Qxe8+ Kh7/g7 43.Qe7 and QxB

Aug-29-18		lost in space: Nearly every move wins, but I like 36. Bg6 most. For example 36. Bg6 Rg7 37. Rf3 Qc5 38. Rf7 Rxf7 39. Bxf7 Kg7 40. Qf6+ Kf8 41. Bxe6+ Ke8 42. Qf7+ Kd8 43. Qd7# Of course 36. Bxh7 is also nice.

Aug-29-18		agb2002: White is a pawn up. White has three pieces and a pawn to attack the black king. This suggests 36.Bxh7: A) 36... Rxh7 37.Qf6+ Rg7 (37... Kg8 38.Rg3+ Rg7 39.Qxg7#) 38.Qf8+ Kh7 (38... Rg8 39.Qh6# or 39.Rh3#) 39.Rh3+ Kg6 40.Qf6#. B) 36... Qxe3 37.Bg6+ Kg8 (37... Kg7 38.Qh7+ Kf8 39.Qxf7#) 38.Bxf7+ Kxf7 39.fxe3 wins. C) 36... bxc3 37.Bg6+ Kg8 (37... Kg7 as above) 38.Bxf7+ C.1) 38... Kxf7 39.Qh7+ Ke8 40.Rg3 Qb4 41.Rg8+ Qf8 42.Rxf8+ Kxf8 43.bxc3 + - [Q+2P vs b]. C.2) 38... Kf8 39.Qh8+ Kxf7 (39... Ke7 40.Qe8#) 40.Rf3+ Ke7 (40... Kg6 41.Qg8+ Kh5(6) 42.Rh3#) 41.Qg7+ Kd(e)8 42.Rf8#. C.3) 38... Kg7 39.Rg3+ Kf8 (39... Kxf7 40.Qh7+ and 41.Rg8#) 40.Rg8+ Kxf7 41.Qh7#. D) 36... Kg7 37.Rg3+ Kf(h)8 38.Rg8#. E) 36... Rg7 37.Rh3 and Black doesn't have adequate defense against Bg6+ and Qh8#.

Aug-29-18		boringplayer: I was drawn to 36. Rf3, and I don't see how Black defends. However, the text is very forcing!

Aug-29-18		saturn2: As black the exchange sacrifice 23..RxNf3 would have been tempting for me.

Aug-29-18		EIDorado: @boringplayer After 36.Rf3 Qc7 I see nothing. I thought Rf3 is a solution too, but it doesn't seem to work.

Aug-29-18		stacase: After looking at a whole bunch of moves that didn't prevent Black's Queen from ruining the whole process. 36.Bxh7 allows White's Queen & Rook to overpower the Black Rook while Black's Queen & Bishop just sit there. It's important for White to move 38.Qf8+ instead of 38.Rh3+

Aug-29-18		Walter Glattke: Won ending for white even with 36.Rf3 Qc7 37.Rxf7 Qxf7 38.Qd8+ Qg8 39.Qxg8+ Kxg8 40.cxb4 or 36.-Kg8 37.Rxf7 Kxf7 38.Qxh7+ Ke8 40.h4

Aug-29-18		et1: Beautiful, as the player who made it. RIP.

Aug-29-18		dTal: I am impressed by how well the new site mangers have figured out the daily puzzle difficulty. Seemed spot on yesterday and today. Tbh, sadly I didn't see today's solution. RIP to Vesna, as others have said.

Aug-29-18		whiteshark: <saturn2: As black the exchange sacrifice 23..RxNf3 would have been tempting for me.> #Metoo However, click for larger view Black to move 1) +1.18 (30 ply) 23...Rf4 24.Qe3 Re8 25.Re2 Rff8 26.Rae1 Nf6 27.Qg5 Ne4 28.Bxe4 dxe4 29.Nd2 Rf5 30.Qh4 Rf4 31.Qg3 Bd5 32.Nxe4 Bxe4 33.Rxe4 Rxe4 34.Rxe4 Qxg3 35.fxg3 Kf6 36.Kf2 Rb8 37.Re5 Rb7 38.Rc5 h6 39.Rc6 a4 40.Ke3 2) +1.17 (29 ply) <23...Rxf3 24.gxf3 Nf6 25.Re5 Bc8 26.Rae1 Rf7 27.Rg5 Qf8 28.Kh1 Ng8> 29.Kg2 Rxf3 30.Qe2 Rf4 31.Qe5+ Qf6 32.Qxf6+ Rxf6 33.Rg3 Rf7 34.h4 Nf6 35.Re5 Kh8 36.Bd1 Ne4 37.Rf3 Nf6 38.Rf4 Kg7 39.Bf3 Bd7 40.Kg3 6.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 9 v010218 the suggested continuation looks to passive to me.

Aug-29-18		malt: Have got 36.B:h7 R:h7 37.Qf6+ Rg7 [37...Kg8 38.Rg3+] 38.Qf8+ Kh7 39.Rh3+ Kg6 40.Qf6#

Aug-29-18		Once: Fritz is saying that there are multiple winning moves today. Both 36. Bxh7 and 36. Bg6 are apparently mate in 18. White would also have a strong advantage with a host of other moves including 36. Qh5, 36. Rh3, 36. Qg5 and 36. Rf3. But by the time we get to 36. Rf3 the eval is down to +3.3 which is not exactly clear. In human mode I liked the look of 36. Bg6 because the black rook has nowhere to go.

Aug-29-18		thegoodanarchist: <Once: Fritz is saying that there are multiple winning moves today. Both 36. Bxh7 and 36. Bg6 are apparently mate in 18.> I found 36.Bxh7 Rxh7 37.Qf6+ +-, but not 36.Bg6

Aug-29-18		patzer2: Because it was a Wednesday puzzle, and we seem to be back on track with the difficulty level, I calculated 37. Bxh7 Rxh7 37. Qf6+ Rg7 38. Qf8+ +- as my solution. For a Black improvement, I'd start early in the opening and replace 5...Qb6 with 5...Bf5 as in Black's win in B Ofitserian vs I Lysyj, 2018. According to our Opening Explorer, 5...Bf5 (30% White wins to 42% Black wins) has strongly favored Black while 5...Qb6 (61% White wins to 18% Black wins) has strongly favored White.

Aug-29-18		lzromeu: This puzzle works in move 35 too. Black had had 2 tempos to see the threat

Aug-29-18		Dr Winston OBoogie: Bxh7. Black can't take the bishop because of Qf6 and the threat of Rh3. Surprised black played on this long.

Aug-29-18		Yonanai: https://breakupwallpapers.com/categ... https://breakupwallpapers.com/categ...

Aug-29-18		cormier: click for larger view Analysis by Houdini 4 9...Nxe4 10.Nxe4 dxe4 11.Bxc4 Bg7 12.Ne2 Na5 13.Bb3 0-0 14.0-0 Bd7 15.Rfd1 Rac8 16.Be3 Qb5 17.h3 a6 18.Ng3 f5 19.Ne2 Rfd8 20.Rac1 Nxb3 21.axb3 Bc6 22.Ra1 Rd7 23.c4 Qb4 24.Bd2 Qd6 = (0.08) Depth: 26

Aug-29-18		cormier: click for larger view Analysis by Houdini 4 9.e5 Qc7 10.Bg5 Nd7 11.Ngf3 b5 12.b3 h6 13.Be3 Rb8 14.Be2 Nb6 15.0-0 Bg7 16.a4 cxb3 17.Qxb3 bxa4 18.Qa3 Bf8 19.Qc1 a3 20.Qc2 Nd7 21.Ra2 Be7 22.h3 h5 23.Bg5 Bxg5 24.Nxg5 + / = (0.40) Depth: 24

Aug-29-18		cormier: click for larger view Analysis by Houdini 4 8...Qd8 9.Be2 Bg7 10.Ngf3 0-0 11.0-0 b5 12.a4 b4 13.h3 b3 14.Qd1 e6 15.exd5 exd5 16.Ne5 Bb7 17.Bf3 Rc8 18.Re1 Nxe5 19.Bxe5 Nd7 20.Bf4 Re8 21.Rxe8+ Qxe8 22.Qe1 Qe6 23.Qxe6 fxe6 = (0.20) Depth: 22

Aug-29-18		cormier: click for larger view Analysis by Houdini 4 5...Bf5 6.Ngf3 Qb6 7.Qc1 cxd4 8.Nxd4 Nxd4 9.exd4 e6 10.a4 a6 11.a5 Qc6 12.Nf3 Bd6 13.Be2 0-0 14.0-0 Ne4 15.Nh4 Qc7 16.Bxd6 Nxd6 17.Nxf5 Nxf5 18.Bd3 Rae8 19.Qg5 h6 20.Qg4 g6 21.Qe2 = (-0.02) Depth: 25

Aug-29-18		Mayankk: Found it. Perfect difficulty level for Wednesday. Kudos to the new Administrators. Of course one can say that White is winning in any case and Bxh7+ is just the icing on the cake, bringing a swift denouement to an otherwise slow and painful death. But nevertheless it is still a pleasant combo.

Aug-29-18		newzild: I saw that 36. Rf3 wins and stopped there. 36. Rf3 Qc7 37. Bxh7 Devastating, as 37...Rxh7 is met by 38. Rf8+ Kg7 39. Qf6#

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