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Apr-19-09
 | | Peligroso Patzer: BTW, according to the tablebase (http://www.k4it.de/index.php?topic=...), both drawing moves noted in my prior comment were "only" drawing moves. |
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Apr-19-09
| | Peligroso Patzer: Finally, it should be noted that, as is common with the sudden death time controls now regrettably prevalent, both players were in zeitnot during the last many moves of this game. |
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| Apr-19-09 | | ArmeniaNL: it is so amzing to note that kamsi missed the obviouse draw on move 93, is unbelievable |
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| Apr-19-09 | | laskersteinitz: They have 30-second increments from move 60 onwards. Kamsky should have seen 93...Rxe7. |
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| Apr-19-09 | | Ulhumbrus: After 28 Rxd7 White has a Rook on the seventh rank, the d file, the superior minor piece and the Queen side pawn majority. If other things are equal, Black is lost. <ArmeniaNL: it is so amzing to note that kamsi missed the obviouse draw on move 93, is unbelievable> I disagree. It is a matter of chance, not something certain. The stronger a player is, the more likely it is that the resource 93..Rxe7! 94 Rxe7 will occur to him, but there can be no guarantee that he will think of it. |
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| Apr-19-09 | | ex0duz: <Peligroso Patzer:> True, true, and true. Must be pretty disappointing for Kamsky to lose this after 98 moves(and to one of the 'wooden spooners' aka 'Mr chess tourist' lol.. Once he gets home and realizes he missed two missed stalemate opportunities, he's probably going to be even more depressed.. i hope that he can recover from this game and it doesn't affect the rest of his tournament too drastically. Kamsky is known for being a tough cookie though, so perhaps i'm worrying unnecessarily.. |
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Apr-19-09
| | Peligroso Patzer: For the record, here is a game with Kamsky on the right side of a half-point swindle in a theoretically drawn ending: Kamsky vs Bacrot, 2006 Kamsky's technique is usually very strong, so the Bacrot game linked above seems more typical for him than today's degringolade. |
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| Apr-19-09 | | ajile: French Defense - yuck
Especially the advance variation with White's e5 pawn. Kamsky PLEASE don't play this defense anymore. |
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Apr-19-09
 | | tamar: It should be noted that the computer does not instantly notice that 80...Rh5 is so much better than Kamsky's 80...Rh8+ Only the infallible tablebase gives the draw to one and the loss for the other. After 80...Rh5! 81 Rd7 Rh8+ 82 Kc7 Rh7! drops the other shoe. 
click for larger view |
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Apr-19-09
| | tamar: Kamsky had a golden opportunity to draw earlier.
65...Nd6! Looks brain-dead, but
66 Rb8 Rxa7+! (Not 66...Rxb8 67 Bxd6+)
67 Bxc7 Nc8! 
click for larger viewBlack has a theoretical draw once the bishop is taken. |
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| Apr-19-09 | | Marmot PFL: It should also be noted that Akopian had several chances to seal the win without allowing Kamsky the chances he missed. |
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| Apr-19-09 | | ArmeniaNL: <Marmot PFL: It should also be noted that Akopian had several chances to seal the win without allowing Kamsky the chances he missed.> Very good point. In several opportunities Rybka gave +5 to akopian, but somehow he missed very good wining chances earlier |
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| Apr-19-09 | | messachess: So, which is correct, are they playing increments or not? |
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| Apr-19-09 | | number 23 NBer: To anyone who can't see the win and is feeling a little stupid (I know I was until a minute ago when I spotted the idea), after 98...♖h7, 99 ♖d8+ ♔a7 100 ♗c5+ ♔a6 101 ♖a8+ ♖a7 102 ♖xa7#. |
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| Apr-19-09 | | patzer2: If chessgames.com ever decides to have another stalemate puzzle week, then 93...Rxe7!= would be a good choice. |
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| Apr-20-09 | | arsen387: <Must be pretty disappointing for Kamsky to lose this after 98 moves(and to one of the 'wooden spooners' aka 'Mr chess tourist' lol..> that 'chess tourist' had the best rating performance on the second boards in 2008 Olympiad, also has wins against players like Kasparov, Kramnik, Khalifman, Bareev and others, so maybe losing to him is not such a big 'shame', as everybody tries to show, especially on the Grand Prix page? :) Of course, missing a stalemate is a little disappointing, but there's no player, who can have a guaranteed point or even a half against Akopian, he still is a great player |
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| Apr-20-09 | | Jim Bartle: Just looking at this, as patzer2 noted, pretty amazing that neither player saw 93...Rxe7 as stalemate. |
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| Apr-20-09 | | Woody Wood Pusher: I can't believe Kamsky missed the stalemates.
Must have been having a really bad day. |
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| Apr-20-09 | | Gegga: Well, both Kamsky and Akopian missed the stalemate. Akopian would not have played 93. Be7 if he had seen it. |
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| Apr-20-09 | | Woody Wood Pusher: Yeah but Akopian wasn't a match away from facing the World Champion only a few weeks ago. |
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Apr-20-09
| | tamar: Akopian had a quicker win with 55 a6 Ra2
56 Rh6 Ra1 (56...Ne4 57 Kb4 preparing to block the rook with Ba3) 57 Kb2 Ra5 58 Kb3 Ng4 59 Kb4 Ra1 60 Bb2 Ra2 61 Kb3 Ra5 62 Bc3 and the rook is forced off the a file. I ran a Rybka analysis overnight.Not surprisingly though, he chose 55 Kb3 with the same ideas, but less forcing. |
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| Apr-22-09 | | SimonWebbsTiger: This game reminds me of a very disappointing experience as a teen. I lost a R+B v. R ending; I simply didn't know how to defend the position. I was so annoyed I made an inspired purchase: Keres's book Practical Chess Endings. Needless to say, that book did more for my chess than half a dozen books on the openings ever could. |
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| May-18-09 | | WhiteRook48: 93....Rb8+? |
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Aug-08-10
 | | Richard Taylor: <ArmeniaNL: it is so amzing to note that kamsi missed the obviouse draw on move 93, is unbelievable> No it's not - he did miss it. It is true and therefore quite believable that he missed it. Unless the game actually was a draw or he won... |
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Aug-08-10
| | Richard Taylor: Her is another example:
S Lukey vs Chandler, 2008 |
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