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|Sep-30-09|| ||Natalia Pogonina: See you guys! Thanks for watching! ;-)|
|Sep-30-09|| ||chessgames.com: Thank you Natalia! See you tomorrow for Jakovenko-Carlsen!|
|Sep-30-09|| ||birthtimes: 25...a5 26. h5 axb4 27. hxg6 h6 28. Rce1 Ra3 29. Nb3 Bf5 30. Qd1 Bxb1 31. Qxb1 Qa7 32. Kg3 Rxa2 and Wang would have a much tougher time saving this position...|
|Sep-30-09|| ||Eyal: Once again a great, very energetic opening play by Carlsen, who was getting very close to yet another win. But Wang Yue managed to create complications in time trouble with a counterattack on the K-side, and somehow squeezed a draw. It seems that just before the time control Carlsen made two consecutive inaccuracies that cost him his advantage:|
First, 39...Qe7 instead of <39...Re7!> where 40.Qxb5 loses to 40...Qc3! 41.Qb8+ (or 41.Re2 Rb6; 41.Kh2 Re5) 41...Rf8 42.Qg3 Qd2! with the deadly threat of Bc3 (if 43.Qh4, then 43...Re5-g5).
Next, he might have kept some winning chances with <40...Rxg6!> instead of 40...Qe6, remaining a pawn up, since 41.Qxc4? loses to Rxg2+! 42.Kxg2 Qg5+ with a mating attack (e.g., 43.Kf2 Rf8+ 44.Ke2 Qg2+ 45.Kd1 Rd8+).
|Sep-30-09|| ||Atking: <39...Re7! where 40.Qxb5 loses to 40...Qc3! 41.Qb8+ (or 41.Re2 Rb6; 41.Kh2 Re5) 41...Rf8 42.Qg3 Qd2! with the deadly threat of Bc3 (if 43.Qh4, then 43...Re5-g5).> Thanks Eyal very good.|
|Sep-30-09|| ||jessicafischerqueen: So now <Magnus> has won three in a row?|
Unless I'm miscounting again.
|Sep-30-09|| ||DeepTrouble: Yet another exciting game! I think Magnus played well, even though he failed -- during time pressure (he had only seconds left) -- to see the move that would've preserved his advantageous position. And kudos to Wang for his accurate defense.|
|Sep-30-09|| ||whatthefat: Fascinating game, Carlsen is in stellar form!|
|Sep-30-09|| ||zarg: <DeepTrouble: Yet another exciting game! I think Magnus played well, even though he failed>|
Yes, this looked as yet another powerful game by Carlsen, with Wang Yue barely escaping at move 40. Close call.
|Sep-30-09|| ||kingsindian2006: magnus is in great form even his draw is showing an advantage which is a good sign for rest of the tourney. Anyone know how much time was left for moves 38 , 39 and 40 for magnus?|
|Sep-30-09|| ||Ezzy: Wang Yue - Magnus Carlsen [D83]
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.e3 0–0 6.Rc1 Be6< Quite a rare move. 6...c5 is the main line >7.c5 c6 8.Bd3 Bg4 9.Qc2 Nfd7 10.Bxb8 <Engines seem to prefer [10.h3 e5 11.Bxe5 Nxe5 12.hxg4 Nxg4]> 10...Nxb8 11.h3 Bc8 12.f4< Hoping to stop black's ...e5 > 12...b6< Attacking pawn chains seems quite thematic here> 13.Na4 e5< With whites king in the center, Carlsen doesn't mind giving up a pawn to open lines for his pieces.> 14.dxe5 f6 15.exf6 Qxf6 16.Nf3 Qe7< eyeing the e3 pawn >17.Kf2 b5 18.Nc3 Na6 19.Qd2 <I have been looking through some lines with the 19 Bxb5 piece sacrifice for 3 pawns. It's all pretty scary but extremely complicated and interesting. >19...Nxc5 20.Bb1< White is threatening 21 Nxd5 exd5 22 Qxd5+> 20...Kh8 21.b4 Nb7 22.Ne2 Nd6 23.Ned4 <23 Rxc6 is fraught with danger. [23.Rxc6 Nc4 24.Qd3 Bb7 25.Rc5 a5 26.Nfd4 (26.a3 axb4 27.axb4 Ra3 winning) 26...axb4 27.Nb3 Rfe8 and whites position is falling apart 28.Ned4 Nxe3 29.g3 Nc4 30.Rc1 Ra3 31.Rxb5 Ba6 32.Rxd5 Nb6]> 23...Nc4<Very strong square for the knight, which makes you think should white have played 23 Bd3 to swap it for the bishop.> 24.Qd3 Bd7 25.h4 Rae8 <[25...a5 26.h5 axb4 27.hxg6 h6 28.Qe2 Ra3 29.Nb3 Re8 30.Rce1 Bg4 also looks pretty overwhelming for black.] >26.Rce1< [26.h5 Bf5 27.Qc3 Bxb1 28.Rxb1 g5 29.h6 Bf6 30.fxg5 Bxg5 31.Nf5+ Qf6 32.Qxf6+ Rxf6 33.Nxg5 Rxf5+ 34.Nf3 Rxe3 Is still extremely strong for black.]> 26...Qxb4 27.h5 Nd6 <27...Bf5 is much stronger.> 28.hxg6 Ne4+ 29.Kg1 h6 30.Rc1 Qb2 31.Qc2 Qa3 32.Nb3 c5 33.Re1 Bf5 34.Nh4 c4 35.Nxf5 Rxf5< [35...cxb3?? 36.Rxh6+! Bxh6 (36...Kg8 37.Qc6 Bxh6 38.Bxe4 dxe4 39.Qd5+ Kh8 40.Qd4+ Kg8 41.Nxh6#) 37.Qc7 Re7 38.Nxe7 and white has turned the tables.] >36.Nd2 Rxf4!< Where did that come from!> 37.Qd1< [37.exf4?? Bd4+ 38.Kf1 (38.Kh2 Qg3 mate) 38...Ng3 mate] >37...Rf6 38.Nxe4 dxe4 39.Qd7 Qe7?< In time trouble Carlsen moves his queen from it's attacking position and lets the game slip away. [39...Re7 40.Qxb5 Qc3 41.Qb8+ Rf8 42.Qg3 Qd2 With threats of 43...Bc3 and a later ...c3 is winning.]> 40.Qxb5 Qe6?< [40...Rxg6! Only if Carlsen had more time. This threatens the amazing 41...Rg5! and when the queen moves off the 5th rank, then 42...Rxg2+! 43 Kxg2 Qg5+ and black is going to mate. White can defend by 41 Rh3 but black can still double rooks on the 'g' file with ...Bc3 and still has a tremendous attack going.] >41.Rh4 Rf5 42.Qa4 Ref8 43.Rxe4 Qxg6 44.Re8 Rxe8 45.Bxf5 Qf7 46.Qd7 Qxd7 47.Bxd7 Rd8 48.Rd1 c3 49.Ba4 Rxd1+ 50.Bxd1 Be5 51.Kf1 Kg7 52.Ke2 h5 53.Kd3 h4 54.Bf3 Kf6 55.Kc2 Ke6 56.Kd3 Kf6 57.Kc2 Ke6 58.Kd3< Phew!! Wang Yue escapes with a draw. How did he get away with that?> ˝–˝
Talk about 'The great escape.' Another dazzling display by Magnus - just missed the win by a hairs breadth.
It's all about Carlsen so far. The other players don't seem have existed in my mind as of yet. So much creative energy firing through those neurons of his. It's great to watch, and if he continues with this energy, he'll be taking over the number 1 spot in the rankings after this tournament. He looks like he can win every game.
This is so exciting to watch. To be fair a lot of credit to Wang Yue who' hung on in there' and played some great defence when he needed it most. What an escape!
I can't wait for his next game. It's a one man show at the moment. So near to 3/3. It's just like watching Brazil! :-)
|Sep-30-09|| ||dehanne: Looks like Kasparov's mind melt with Carlsen has been succesful. Hopefully, though, this will only affect Carlsen's chess and not his character.|
|Sep-30-09|| ||Jim Bartle: I won't worry about that until Carlsen starts taking off his watch and laying it beside the board.|
|Sep-30-09|| ||ingberg: this game is deep|
|Oct-01-09|| ||kingfu: Ahhh, The Gruenfeld. This is not a big shock if Kasparov is your second. Karpov and Kasparov have played over 200 games now. They have played about 24 Gruenfelds. This started in 1986 after playing 84 games. So, basically one in every six games between Karpov and Kasparov since 1986 has been a Gruenfeld. Kasparov got a win with the Gruenfeld against Karpov LAST WEEK. So, the big question: Why would you EVER want to play the Gruenfeld against Carlsen now? Wang must be good to get the only draw against Carlsen in the tourney. If you are a Queenside player with White, how do you PREVENT the Gruenfeld against Carlsen?|
|Oct-01-09|| ||Albertan: I have analyzed this game in great detail and posted the analysis at my blog: http://albertan1956.blogspot.com/. I hope you can come by and enjoy the analysis and comments I have made about this amazing struggle!|
|Oct-01-09|| ||kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game in 3 parts:
|Oct-02-09|| ||ongyj: <kingfu> It's not really a good mentality to chicken out of the Gruenfeld if you're playing 1.d4, but if anyone really wants to avoid the typical line, 2.Nf3 may be good enough.|
|Oct-02-09|| ||kingfu: I notice that MANY queenside players go for 2. Nf3 to keep the move order flexible. This enables White to go AWAY from favorite variations by Black. In my previous posts I have talked about players who are BEYOND the rest. Kasparov is one of these. Today he is Carlsen's "second" , which means Gary is not back in the Championship hunt, but Magnus IS. Besides, Magnus is so young , he needs someone to drive him to the games! Here is the problem: Kasparov is an expert, no , BEYOND expert in the Gruenfeld , in the Queen's Indian , in the King's Indian. My question for ongyi and the rest of the galaxy is this: Where in the hell do you go to stay AWAY from Kasparov's expertise which seems to be genetic?|
|Oct-02-09|| ||whatthefat: <kingfu: I notice that MANY queenside players go for 2. Nf3 to keep the move order flexible. This enables White to go AWAY from favorite variations by Black.>|
It's a matter of taste - 2.Nf3 prevents White from entering lines with f3, such as the Samisch KID.
|Oct-02-09|| ||goldenbear: 2.b5 is an interesting way to exploit 2.Nf3. I've never played it, and I don't know how sound it is.|
|Oct-02-09|| ||mnntman: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...|
|Oct-04-09|| ||ongyj: <kingfu> I guess I didn't see the point in your post. So you're just trying to say how awesome Kasparov was and how great Carlsen is. No problem with that.|
But if you're trying to bait people into playing 1.e4 or 1.something else other than 1.d4 that's not really a convincing argument. The experts play a lot of different opening systems. Kasparov is best known for Sicilian: Najdorf, no? I personally avoid 1.e4 altogether because I don't want to play against the Sicilian, but that's my own choice.
In fact Kasparov himself gave up on the King's Indian Defence, saying that he didn't want to be dictated by White for around 20 moves of play ending up in a position with little or no advantage after that. We have other GMs to thank for keeping KID alive, and that they didn't just believe in what Kasparov said on face value.
Anyway, another reason for 2.Nf3 after 1.d4 is that it prevents something like the Budapest as well. If you're just determined to go out of Kasparov and Carlsen's preparations maybe try something like the Catalan.
|Oct-18-09|| ||kingfu: When I play on the Queenside as White , it is d4 followed by Nf3, ongyi. This way , I get to choose the variation after black chooses a defense. I try to stay away from hugely analyzed openings. For example, many times I will play the four knights against e4 e5, Nf3 Nc6 to avoid The Lopez. So , I agree with you! I am not trying to avoid any particular opening. I just want to keep the game in my area of knowledge without getting nabbed by someone's preparation. For example, I many times play the exchange variation of the Caro-Kann as white. That way I KNOW where the game is going without letting black play his favorite variation like the Karpov!|
|Oct-28-09|| ||Nf3em: well well well ... it's good to see the Gruenfeld in the hands of GM Magnus Carlsen ... I am intrigue by his 6... Be6 move w/c is a least tried move ... looks like GM Gary Kasparov and his' fruit of collaboration?|
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