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| Sep-30-09 | | Jim Bartle: I won't worry about that until Carlsen starts taking off his watch and laying it beside the board. |
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| Sep-30-09 | | ingberg: this game is deep |
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| Oct-01-09 | | kingfu: Ahhh, The Gruenfeld. This is not a big shock if Kasparov is your second. Karpov and Kasparov have played over 200 games now. They have played about 24 Gruenfelds. This started in 1986 after playing 84 games. So, basically one in every six games between Karpov and Kasparov since 1986 has been a Gruenfeld. Kasparov got a win with the Gruenfeld against Karpov LAST WEEK. So, the big question: Why would you EVER want to play the Gruenfeld against Carlsen now? Wang must be good to get the only draw against Carlsen in the tourney. If you are a Queenside player with White, how do you PREVENT the Gruenfeld against Carlsen? |
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| Oct-01-09 | | Albertan: I have analyzed this game in great detail and posted the analysis at my blog: http://albertan1956.blogspot.com/. I hope you can come by and enjoy the analysis and comments I have made about this amazing struggle! |
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Oct-01-09
 | | kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game in 3 parts:
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov3G...
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqvh...
Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI_X... |
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| Oct-02-09 | | ongyj: <kingfu> It's not really a good mentality to chicken out of the Gruenfeld if you're playing 1.d4, but if anyone really wants to avoid the typical line, 2.Nf3 may be good enough. |
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| Oct-02-09 | | kingfu: I notice that MANY queenside players go for 2. Nf3 to keep the move order flexible. This enables White to go AWAY from favorite variations by Black. In my previous posts I have talked about players who are BEYOND the rest. Kasparov is one of these. Today he is Carlsen's "second" , which means Gary is not back in the Championship hunt, but Magnus IS. Besides, Magnus is so young , he needs someone to drive him to the games! Here is the problem: Kasparov is an expert, no , BEYOND expert in the Gruenfeld , in the Queen's Indian , in the King's Indian. My question for ongyi and the rest of the galaxy is this: Where in the hell do you go to stay AWAY from Kasparov's expertise which seems to be genetic? |
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| Oct-02-09 | | whatthefat: <kingfu: I notice that MANY queenside players go for 2. Nf3 to keep the move order flexible. This enables White to go AWAY from favorite variations by Black.> It's a matter of taste - 2.Nf3 prevents White from entering lines with f3, such as the Samisch KID. |
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| Oct-02-09 | | goldenbear: 2.b5 is an interesting way to exploit 2.Nf3. I've never played it, and I don't know how sound it is. |
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| Oct-02-09 | | mnntman: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/... |
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| Oct-04-09 | | ongyj: <kingfu> I guess I didn't see the point in your post. So you're just trying to say how awesome Kasparov was and how great Carlsen is. No problem with that. But if you're trying to bait people into playing 1.e4 or 1.something else other than 1.d4 that's not really a convincing argument. The experts play a lot of different opening systems. Kasparov is best known for Sicilian: Najdorf, no? I personally avoid 1.e4 altogether because I don't want to play against the Sicilian, but that's my own choice. In fact Kasparov himself gave up on the King's Indian Defence, saying that he didn't want to be dictated by White for around 20 moves of play ending up in a position with little or no advantage after that. We have other GMs to thank for keeping KID alive, and that they didn't just believe in what Kasparov said on face value. Anyway, another reason for 2.Nf3 after 1.d4 is that it prevents something like the Budapest as well. If you're just determined to go out of Kasparov and Carlsen's preparations maybe try something like the Catalan. |
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| Oct-18-09 | | kingfu: When I play on the Queenside as White , it is d4 followed by Nf3, ongyi. This way , I get to choose the variation after black chooses a defense. I try to stay away from hugely analyzed openings. For example, many times I will play the four knights against e4 e5, Nf3 Nc6 to avoid The Lopez. So , I agree with you! I am not trying to avoid any particular opening. I just want to keep the game in my area of knowledge without getting nabbed by someone's preparation. For example, I many times play the exchange variation of the Caro-Kann as white. That way I KNOW where the game is going without letting black play his favorite variation like the Karpov! |
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| Oct-28-09 | | Nf3em: well well well ... it's good to see the Gruenfeld in the hands of GM Magnus Carlsen ... I am intrigue by his 6... Be6 move w/c is a least tried move ... looks like GM Gary Kasparov and his' fruit of collaboration? |
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| Jun-26-22 | | Granny O Doul: ...e5. Et cetera. |
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| Jun-26-22 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: It's easy to calculate that White must capture after the ... e5 break, because otherwise it is very hard to defend the d4 pawn. But this didn't feel decisive enough to be a puzzle solution (indeed, the game was drawn). |
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| Jun-26-22 | | mel gibson: This puzzle is still in the opening stage.
Stockfish 15 is calling to close to a draw which it is: 13... e5
(13. ..e5 (e7-e5 d4xe5 f7-f6 e5xf6 ♕d8xf6 ♘g1-f3 ♕f6-e7 ♕c2-e2 ♘b8-d7 O-O ♖f8-e8
♖f1-d1 b6xc5 b2-b3 ♕e7xe3+ ♕e2xe3 ♖e8xe3 ♔g1-f2 ♖e3-e8 ♘a4xc5 ♘d7xc5 ♖c1xc5
♗c8-d7 ♖c5-a5 ♖e8-f8 g2-g3 ♗d7xh3 ♖a5-a6 ♖f8-c8 ♖d1-c1 ♗h3-d7 b3-b4 ♖c8-c7
b4-b5 ♖a8-c8 b5xc6 ♗d7xc6 f4-f5 ♗c6-b7 ♖c1xc7 ♗b7xa6 ♖c7xc8+ ♗a6xc8 f5xg6
h7xg6 ♗d3xg6 ♔g8-f8 ♘f3-h4 ♗g7-b2 ♗g6-f5 ♗c8-a6 ♗f5-c2 ♔f8-f7 ♗c2-b3 ♔f7-e6
♔f2-f3 ♗a6-c4 ♗b3xc4 d5xc4) +0.18/54 748)
score for Black +0.18 depth 54. |
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Jun-26-22
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: More a matter of courage than difficulty--easy to see the solution, but would you play it in real life? 6/7 for the week. Friday proved much too difficult. Anyone else notice the curious retreats by Black on moves 9-11? |
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| Jun-26-22 | | agb2002: Black has the bishop pair for a bishop and a knight. The white king remains in the center. This invites to play the pawn sacrifice 13... e5 14.d(f)xe5 f6 to open the e- and f-files and several diagonals (a1-h8, c1-h6, d8-h4). I'd probably play 13... e5 and hope for the best. The position may generate any kind of tactics. For example, 14.dxe5 d4 (better is 14... f6) 15.e4 b5 traps the knight. Or 14.fxe5 f6 15.Nf3 fxe5 16.Nxe5 Bxe5 17.dxe5 Qh4+ 18.Kd2 (18.Kd1 Bg4+) 18... Rf2+ 19.Be2 Bf5 looks overwhelming. |
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| Jun-26-22 | | Brenin: This is the second POTD for today. I solved the first one and then realised that it was a recycling of the POTD we had seen exactly two weeks earlier. This substitute I didn't solve: OTB I would have played 13 ... f6, and only then e5. I think this is still good for Black. |
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| Jun-26-22 | | mel gibson: <Jun-26-22 Brenin: This is the second POTD for today. > Why not use the latest 2022 FIDE candidates games for the puzzles? FIDE Candidates (2022) |
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Jun-26-22
 | | HeMateMe: Terrific slugfest.black seemed ready to exploit the weak white pawns. |
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Jun-26-22
 | | chrisowen: I brain think outer e5 fandangle jackanory gotcha abridge light darkly ahead radical e5 draw? |
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| Jun-26-22 | | ChessHigherCat: The real puzzle is how many moves would it take for Black to get all his pieces back to their original positions on the back rank starting from move 12. It's easy to see 12...f6 13...Kf7 14....Ke8 15....Rh8 16...Bf8. The hard part now is to promote a pawn to a N and bring it back safely to g8. |
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| Jun-26-22 | | TheaN: <ChessHigherCat: The real puzzle is how many moves would it take for Black to get all his pieces back to their original positions on the back rank starting from move 12. It's easy to see 12...f6 13...Kf7 14....Ke8 15....Rh8 16...Bf8. The hard part now is to promote a pawn to a N and bring it back safely to g8.> Assuming it's a help-restore (that's now a thing)? In that case it's 13 moves: As stated it takes five moves to get the pieces on the board back in position. For the restored knight, it's fixed four moves to promote the d-pawn as it's on its fourth rank, in this case dxe4, exd3, dxc2, cxd1N; and four moves to get a promoted knight back on its starting square, in this case Ne3 Nf5 Nh6 Ng8. 5+4+4 = 13 moves. Except for e4 and Rd1, White can just shuffle Ng1 or Rh1 back and forth. Interesting. |
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| Jun-27-22 | | ChessHigherCat: Bravo! That's a good idea shuffling the white N or R back and forth. Assuming best play on the part of white would make the puzzle hopelessly complicated. |
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