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Magnus Carlsen vs Alexandra Kosteniuk
World Blitz Championship (2009)  ·  Russian Game: Modern Attack. Center Variation (C43)  ·  0-1
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Nov-21-09  metatron2: <Appaz>, there is no need to get angry over nonsense like that. You don't need to be chick to see that Magnus is a fine looking young man.

It looked strange to me that <Kamikaze> put Karjakin among the good looking players, while considering Carslen to be "downright ugly", and so I showed my wife a bunch of pictures of both of them: She said Carlsen looks cute (although a little "nerdy"), and she didn't like Karjakin's look at all, and had a good laugh about Kamikaze' taste..

Nov-21-09  blueofnoon: IMO most men chess players are not so bad, but the problem is they do not pay enough attention to their appearance.

For example, Grischuk could be considered handsome even outside of chess community if he stopped arriving tournaments in t-shirt and jeans, and took care of his hair style.

Same thing can be said about Kramnik, who sometimes look like an investment banker that was unable to sleep last night due to overworks.

In this respect, kudos to Fischer who always arrived tournaments in jacket and tie. He may not have been such a handsome material, but gave good impression because of his wearings.

Nov-21-09
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  Appaz: <<metatron2> there is no need to get angry over nonsense like that.>

Who is angry? I'm just quoting Frank Zappa :)

When someone have the need to call someone "downright ugly", it usually says more about the offending person than the offended.

My experience is that <respect> counts more than <looks>. People I respect, either their skills or their personality, tend to look good to me.

Carlsen is handsome and his face has character, which certainly reflects his personality.

Nov-21-09  Augalv: I would put Karjakin among the goodlooking players too. But honestly, I don't find Carlsen handsome at all.
Nov-21-09
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  rogge: Running out of topics? I think what matters most is the size of their shoes.
Nov-21-09  Aspirador: <I think what matters most is the size of their shoes.> Carlsen is definitely an overpronator which means that he needs motion control shoes.
Nov-21-09
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  HeMateMe: <I bet the girls you pick up in a bar when you have beer goggles make you cry in the morning LOL!!>>

Hey, beer goggles contribute greatly to social networking! I'm just curious about something--guys have an old saying "They all get prettier at midnight!" (desperation to meet someone). Do women have the same feeling...? If you haven't met someoe wearing a $200 pair of shoes by midnight, do you lower standards a bit, go flitting around the bar, advertising availability?

Nov-21-09  Billy Vaughan: <Whack8888> http://nezhmet.files.wordpress.com/...

Now, I don't see how you can look at that face and not conclude that <hippie Kramnik> was a paragon of beauty ;)

Nov-21-09
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  HeMateMe: Man, that photo is hot. He must have had to beat the girls off with a stick. Why do you suppose he hasn't been offered an opportunity to endorse cigars? I showed this to a woman in my office, she thinks she saw him in the Pyramid Club.
Nov-22-09  offramp: The thing about Carlsen is his colossal Hapsburg lip.
Nov-22-09  KKDEREK: Lol..Funny topic that one..Well, I would say Cheparinov might have a lot of chicks looking after him. Carlsen? He's too nerdy , even the way he talks..But hes on media everyday. And chicks gets wet towards famous guys.. Ivanchuck is beautiful, but as somebody said before, hes a retard with chess abilities. LOL
Nov-22-09
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  Rolfo: <Why do you suppose he hasn't been offered an opportunity to endorse cigars?> Clinton may have taught him a trick or two :)
Nov-24-09  janbo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWAi...

I don't agree Magnus is ugly at all, he is still a young man growing up with all the pros and cons that has :-) I feel he generally looks better when he is interviewed in Norwegian (his native language) as he does not stress out so much as he does trying to answer questions in English when he often looks spaced out as he is trying to find the right words.

Of course being a guy I prefer Kosteniuk ;-)) but that is besides the point.

Dec-04-09  SamAtoms1573: The best looking and most fashionable grandmaster is clearly Boris Gelfand:

http://www.ugra-chess.ru/gal/04.12....

Dec-04-09
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  Eyal: <The best looking and most fashionable grandmaster is clearly Boris Gelfand>

I agree that Gelfand is the best looking, but the most fashionable has to be Ivanchuk: http://chesspro.ru/_images/material...

Dec-04-09  SamAtoms1573: LOL!!!
Dec-04-09  SamAtoms1573: Picture taken a round before his doping scandal:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Q0lTtPVTG...

Dec-04-09
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  HeMateMe: < SamAtoms1573 > He better not get caught wearing that hat near heather Mills or PETA.
Dec-04-09  SamAtoms1573: I meant this one:

http://files.chess.com/images_users...

Jan-11-10  ROO.BOOKAROO: It's refreshing to read a 5-page kibbitzing where not one move of the game has been discussed. I tend to agree that Carlsen, without being downright ugly, is not good-looking. His chin and lips make him look brutish, a bit Neanderthalish. I was shocked the first time I saw a picture of him after having heard him labeled as the boy genius of chess, the "Mozart" of chess. What a joke. However, all the pictures of Fischer in his early 20's show him as a rather rangy, elegant and very attractive man. Probably the best looking player in his crowd. And even in the last pictures, when he gets off the plane in Iceland, looking like an aging derelict hippie, with flowing white beard, unkempt hair, shabby clothing, and a certain demented look on his face, he still retains a certain grandeur and photogenic appeal.
Jan-13-10  topi: <You are right Roo.bookaroo> it happened the same to me. I was kind of disappointed when I first saw a picture of magnus. with so much money he wins, he should have an operation of his chin or do whatever he wants to look nicer
Jan-13-10
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  HeMateMe: Images can be confusing. When Fischer got off the plane at Reykjavik, I saw a fan hand him a copy of "Terrapin Station", looking to get a signed copy.
Jun-22-11  DrMAL: What Ms. Scrumptious describes as a novelty in her video, 10.Bf4 is not particularly good. True black's position get's quite passive as she states but also as she states it is solid.

White's amateurish kingside attack goes nowhere, Kosteniuk defends and regroups calmly. Then white tries to gain advantage on the queenside with a blockading knight on c5 and after 23...Bc4 it seems he is starting to succeed, but again black calmly regroups and white shifts back to the kingside where Kosteniuk defends with brilliant accuracy.

30.Kh2 is the start of a dubious advance that leaves white's king exposed. 32...Be4 was a key move as she points out, where black now also has a potentially dangerous attack with the opposite color bishops on board.

From here on, the blitz game gets increasingly inaccurate. White continues to build more kingside attack but 36.Re3 was a key inaccuracy where 36...Bxc2 could have simply nabbed a pawn.

White's attack is gaining advantage particularly after 39...g6 but instead of continuing with 40.Bxh6 he plays 40.c4 a serious mistake. Here black misses the combination following 40...Rxb3 and plays 40...Reb8 a counter-mistake. But again white misses opportunity with 41.e6 and plays 41.Bh6 another mistake.

After 41...Rxb3 (finally) white should have played 42.Re2 right away and the game would have very likely been drawn. Instead he plays first 42.Rce1 another mistake then after 42...Rb2 Carlsen makes a huge blunder by moving the wrong rook to e2, losing a rook and setting up a forced mate.

Great game by Kosteniuk, she once again plays with amazing calmness in blitz that wears out her opponent and creates yet another big win from their collapse.

Jan-11-13  echever7: In my opinion Carlsen was lost anyway. If Re1-e2, follows Rb1 and is difficult to defend against Rh1+ and Rbb1. Am I missing something?
Jan-11-13  echever7: <echever7> After 43. R1e2- Rb1 44. Rxe4-Qxf2+ 45. Rxf2-dxe4 46.e6...
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