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Magnus Carlsen vs Luke McShane
"Don't Luke Now" (game of the day Dec-17-2009)
London Chess Classic (2009), London ENG, rd 2, Dec-09
King's Indian Defense: Orthodox Variation. Glek Defense (E94)  ·  1-0


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Dec-11-09  Jim Bartle: By that standard I beat about fifty more players.
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  Once: <ROO.BOOKAROO: Excellent overall survey of the game by <Ezzy>, so much more interesting and to a beginner like me, so much more enlightening than, for instance, the tedious indepth analyses of Rybka computerese by <Random Visitor>>

A little harsh there, I feel. <Ezzy> did do a great job of annotating the game and I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. But <RV>'s analysis reaches the parts that other analyses cannot reach. Sure it needs a little more work to decipher it, but let's not quibble about an excellent resource which <RV> is giving us for free.

As you progress beyond beginner (which you will if you stick with this site), <RV's> posts will become more and more useful to you.

Dec-17-09  Shams: Alternate, black humor pun: "They only hit until you cry."
Dec-17-09  Aspirador: "Don't look now" is one of my favorite movies.
Dec-17-09  Matsumoto: Carlsen is the new Kasparov!
Dec-17-09  Andrijadj: Great game,this was like watching Kasparov-Karpov.

But don't forget to give credits to McShane too,he found some great defensive moves.

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  kevin86: Doesn't the name:Luke McShane make any of you think of a private detective?

A good game with a flash finish.

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  Eyal: With regard to the maneuvers that come before the fireworks, it's worth noting how Carlsen waits with the capture on c5 until 20...Nc7, so that the black knight won't get this square. Also that the open c-file doesn't really help Black, despite the doubling of the rooks, and that the open f-file, created by Black's "automatic" KID K-side counterplay with ...f5, actually helps White in a crucial way. Strategically, McShane's 30...Nf7 instead of bxa5 was probably a serious mistake, because after 31.axb6 the b6 pawn becomes a big weakness, even though without the 47.Nc5 brilliance it may have not been enough.
Dec-17-09  WhiteRook48: luke, fluke, what's the difference?
Dec-17-09  A.G. Argent: Pretty heady days for the Kid. With Carlsen's score (+3) at London, he surpasses Topalov on the unofficial live rating list and with no more games to be played by either of them until the next FIDE rating list comes out Jan. 1, Magnus will become the youngest official #1 in chess history. Not too bad.
Dec-17-09  returnoftheking: <With regard to the maneuvers that come before the fireworks, it's worth noting how Carlsen waits with the capture on c5 until 20...Nc7, so that the black knight won't get this square. Also that the open c-file doesn't really help Black, despite the >

I remember an article by Rogozenko about a system for black that can result in a setup like this (KI with Nh6) He says that the move Na6 is the crux of black's defense, making progress for white on the queen side problematic. I think he is overstating things but I do wonder what white will do if the knight stays put.

By the way here is the game that convinced Rogozenko of black's defensive capabilities in such positions:

D Rogozenko vs B Badea, 2005

On another note, was this game awarded the brilliancy prize?

Dec-17-09  butilikefur: what about <35. Bxb6> ?

<35...Rxb6 36. Qf2 Rxc4> (36...Be3 37. Qxe3 Rxb5 38. Rxf7+ Kg8 39. Rxb5 Bxb5 40. Qa7; 36...Qe7 or moving the knight, 37. Nxb6 Rb8 38. Nxd7 Qxd7 39. b6 is easy) <37. Qxf7+ Kh8 38. Bxc4> and perhaps White can get his bishop in play over at g4 and give the pawn to get to e6.

Dec-17-09  butilikefur: There is also <35. Bxb6 Rxb6 36. Qf2 Rxb5 37. Qxf7+ Kh6> (37...Kh8 38. Nxd6 Qb6+ 39. Kh1 Rxb1 40. Nxc8 Rxf1+ 41. Bxf1 looks like a good endgame for White) <38. Nxd6 Qb6+ 39. Kh1 Rxb1 40. Qxd7 Rxf1+ 41. Bxf1 Rf8> (41...Rc7 42. Qe6 threatening mate in two) <42. Nf7+ Rxf7 43. Qxf7> is a better endgame.. i dunno how winnable though
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  Eyal: <butilikefur: There is also 35. Bxb6 Rxb6 36. Qf2 Rxb5 37. Qxf7+ Kh6 38. Nxd6 Qb6+ 39. Kh1 Rxb1 40. Qxd7 Rxf1+ 41. Bxf1 Rf8 42. Nf7+ Rxf7 43. Qxf7 is a better endgame.. i dunno how winnable though>

Probably not - after 43...Bf4, for example, Black can harass White with mate threats unless White allows a queen exchange, and then with bishops of opposite color it probably shouldn't be too difficult to blockade the d-pawn. But this possibility of Bxb6 was "in the air" - 35.Kh1, avoiding a possible queen check on b6, aims to make this line work, 35...Be8 defends against it by protecting f7, but then a move later 36...Nh6 makes it viable because 37...Rxb6 38.Qf2 threatens mate on f8 in addition to hitting Rb6.

Dec-17-09  butilikefur: 43...Bf4 44. Qf8+ Kh5 45. Be2+ Kh4 46. Qe7+ Kg3 47. Qa3+ Qe3 48. Qxe3+ Bxe3 49. d6 Bb6 50. Bc4 Kf4 51. Bd5 Bd8 (or some other 51... i dunno) 52. Kh2 looks like a nice endgame to play into for White. this is the best line i can find for black after 35. Bxb6.. enough to play it for me.
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  Eyal: Not sure if there's any real danger in this for Black, but he can also play 45...Kg5, and in case of Qe7+ get back to h6.
Dec-17-09  ajile: Luke should have used The Force in this game.
Dec-17-09  ajile: The liquidation of pawns on b6 turns out to be a problem for Black (31.axb6). And since White had Nc4 probably Black needed to exchange this knight with 32..Bxe3 to avoid this.

The position is still difficult for Black though since White enjoys more space on the q-side and Black doesn't have much counterplay on the k-side to balance this.

Dec-23-09  chillowack: <Once: As you progress beyond beginner (which you will if you stick with this site), <RV's> posts will become more and more useful to you.> I'm an Expert, and I completely agree with ROO.BOOKAROO about tedious Rybka variations.

I think much more growth can be gained by working through variations oneself than by "reading the answers in the back of the book," which is basically what RandomVisitor provides.

Dec-23-09  zanshin: <I think much more growth can be gained by working through variations oneself than by "reading the answers in the back of the book,">

This suggests that engines provide the one true answer. They do not. They can frequently provide different evaluations, and in many cases, are simply wrong. Engines are just another method of analysis. But used properly, they are a valuable learning tool - that's why GMs use them.

Aug-29-10  notyetagm: Carlsen vs McShane, 2009

<London 09: Why not the Brilliancy Prize? Nc5!>

from Game Collection: Mozart of chess by zarg>

My thoughts **exactly**.

47 ♘a4-c5!!

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55 e4-e5+!

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Feb-22-11  notyetagm:
Jun-28-11  notyetagm: Game Collection: UNDEFENDED PIECE: DECOY (FPDDT)
May-06-12  Ulhumbrus: Although 22...Rxc5 prepares to occupy the c file it turns out that Black is able to do little with it. On 22...bxc5 23 Nc4 White's knight blockades Black's protected passed pawn on c5 and the knight may head for c6 via a5. This suggests 22..dxc5 23 Nc4 Nf7 heading for d6.
May-14-18  spirit: The black rooks couldn't use the c file because of lack of space. The black knight tried entering the white king side in other to force an exchange (which could alleviate the space problem) but white prevented this. Lack of space is particularly troubling for knights. If we take out the two remaining knights at move 30 I wonder if black could hold. Nice game by both sides, but the opening seemed very complicated!
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