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| May-01-16 | | alphee: Well, I could get the first couple of moves 31. ♖g6 ♔g6 32. ♗d3 ♔f7 33. ♖h5 as white had 2 rooks under attack and had to attack the king to save one, but what black could play next remained unclear and he could have played Kg7 too ... Not too bad for a Sunday puzzle. |
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| May-01-16 | | gofer: So lost...
...I considered <31 Rxg6+>, but couldn't make it work. Instead, I tried 31 Bxa6 trying to set up a queen side pawn rush, followed by Nc5, but really I was stumbling in the dark today... Nil Point! |
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| May-01-16 | | wooden nickel: 31.Qxd8 would fit in the "insane" category today, but just doesn't quite want to work! |
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| May-01-16 | | Timi Timov: An easy puzzle, but getting the next moves for white is very hard |
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| May-01-16 | | WorstPlayerEver: After 31. Rg6 Kg6 32. Bd3 White has B+2p vs Rook. And Black has a weakened king side. So far, so good. Then I got stuck lol |
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| May-01-16 | | morfishine: Seems kind of messy with multiple places for improvements For example, <37...Qc6> improves for Black (instead of 37...Nf5??) threatening mate at <g2> and 37...Qxc1+ ***** |
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| May-01-16 | | dufferps: Yes, the next two moves are intuitive. After that it is hard to see the line,. |
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| May-01-16 | | jith1207: Yes, I was so lost but as a black, 37..Qc6 and try a mate at g2 could have been better, though I was not sure if I have been seeing all lines well enough to make that statement. I need Silicon help on such puzzles, Hey, we can cheat after accepting the loss. |
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May-01-16
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Seriously, though, the last two or three moves would make a pretty decent puzzle right there. I'm going to enjoy looking this over with Fritz later today. |
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| May-01-16 | | AlicesKnight: Completely with <gofer> ... |
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May-01-16
 | | Jimfromprovidence: 35...Rc8?, undoubling the rooks, allows 36 fxe3, losing a piece I would think.
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| May-01-16 | | psmith: <JimfromProvidence> 36... Rxc1+ 37. Qxc1 Rxd3 leaves Black pawns behind, but is it an easy win for White? |
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May-01-16
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| May-01-16 | | RandomVisitor: <Jimfromprovidence>Perhaps 35...Rd5 was better
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<+1.21/34 36.Rh7+ Kg8 37.Rxh4> Nf5 38.Rg4+ Kf8 39.Rf4 Kg7 40.Qe2 Nh6 41.Qe4 f5 42.Qe7+ Kh8 43.Qe2 Qd6 44.Rf3 Kg7 45.Rg3+ Kh8 46.Qe3 Nf7 47.a3 Qe5 48.Qd2 Rd4 49.Rg6 R4d6 50.Rxd6 Rxd6 51.Ne2 Qf6 52.Qc2 f4 53.Nc3 Qd4 54.Be2 Kg7 55.Ne4 Re6 56.Bf3 a5 57.Kh2 Re7 58.Nc5 Re1 +1.10/34 36.Rxh4 Nf5 37.Rh5 Qd4 38.Rh7+ Kg8 39.Rc7 Qe5 40.Rc3 Kg7 41.Ne2 Ne7 42.g3 Ng6 43.Qc2 R8d7 44.h4 Qh5 45.Kg2 f5 46.Ng1 Qg4 47.Kf1 R5d6 48.Be2 Qe4 49.Nf3 Qxc2 50.Rxc2 a5 51.Kg2 Kf6 52.Bb5 Rb7 53.Rc5 Nf8 54.Ng5 Rd2 55.g4 Rxb2 56.Rxf5+ Kg7 57.Bc6 Re7 58.Rxa5 Ng6 59.h5 Ne5 |
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| May-01-16 | | wtpy: Saw until 36...ne3. First moves were easy, next moves were not. |
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| May-01-16 | | agb2002: White is a bishop and a pawn up.
Black threatens 31... fxe5 and 31... fxg5.
I've considered a number of moves Rxg6+, Be8, Bd3, Rxd5, Qxd8, Qe1, Nc5, Bc4, Bc6, etc. In the case of 31.Bc6:
A) 31... Rxc6 32.Qxd8 fxe5 33.Rxe5 and the knight is lost due to Re7+ winning the queen. B) 31... fxe5 32.Rxe5
B.1) 32... Rxc6 33.Qxd8 transposes to A.
B.2) 32... Nf6 unclear.
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I don't know. I'd probably play 31.Rxd5:
A) 31... Rxd5 32.Rxd5 Rxd5 33.Qxd5 + - [B+N+2P vs R], followed by Bf1 and a queenside pawn roll. B) 31... fxg5 32.Rxd6 (probably better than the greedy 32.Rxg5) 32... Rxd6 33.Be2 (or Bf1) followed by the attack against Black's a-pawn (Nc5, etc.). |
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| May-01-16 | | agb2002: Not my best day. I meant 33.Qxa6 in my line A, instead of the illegal 33.Qxd5, but this allows the killing 33... Rd1+ 34.Kh2 (34.Bf1 Qxa6) 34... Qxf2. |
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| May-01-16 | | Patriot: I considered 31.Rxg6+ Kxg6 32.Bd3+ but did not think about 33.Rh5. My move was 31.Nc5 since 31...Qxc5 32.Rxg6+ Kxg6 33.Bd3+ wins the queen. It's not all forced and there are other replies. This is indeed "insane" but you also have to consider that white is already up a piece and a pawn, so the question becomes "what can be sacrificed with initiative?" And a sacrifice will happen here because both rooks are hanging. |
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| May-01-16 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: Lookin at the position of begining, maybe everybody had wondered "how they have reached such position?" Maybe, you lost some part of the continuity, of the plan, cause there's no direct tatics about it, but the opened position of black king. So the 31.Rxg6+ was my move, but didn't know how exactly to follow (maybe not only me, but Popov himself). So I accept to continue the game, following the black moves, step by step. Doing this, I would play 33.Rxd5, I didn't see 33.Rh5 which is best. I moved 34.Qd2 because has no other way to take the White Q to attack. My move 35.Nc5 would not follow white's plan, but protected the Bd3, for a while. I would follow Jim "with no providence" (lgs, hello my friend, how are you?) and 36.fxe3 and get out the board with "I'm singing in the rain..." lgs. For 36.Rh7+ we, here in Brazil, joke this with "bad players didn't lose the opportunity to check!" (lgs, again). after 37.Rxh4, I gave up cause there's no direct move to win. Black is in a bad position, sure, but you need black moves as well. Seemed to me, that black could have other moves... |
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| May-01-16 | | whiteshark: The one percent solution |
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| May-01-16 | | mel gibson: Too hard for me.
The computer agrees with a first 6 or more plies. |
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| May-01-16 | | RandomVisitor: 31.Rxg6+ Kxg6 32.Bd3+ Kf7 33.Rh5 Qb6 34.Qd2 Ne3 35.Nc1 <Rd5>
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<+1.24/41 36.Rh7+ Kg8 37.Rxh4> Nf5 38.Rf4 Kg7 39.Qe2 Nh6 40.Qe7+ Nf7 41.Rg4+ Rg5 42.Rh4 f5 43.Bf1 Qc6 44.Qe1 Qf3 45.Ne2 Re8 46.Kh1 Qd3 47.Kh2 Qc2 48.Qc3+ Qxc3 49.bxc3 Rg6 50.Ng3 Re5 51.Bd3 Nd6 52.Nh5+ Kh7 53.Bxa6 Rc5 54.Ng3+ Rh6 55.Rd4 Rxc3 56.a4 Rc5 57.Bd3 Kg7 58.Ne2 Nf7 59.Nf4 Ra5 60.g3 Rd6 61.Rb4 Ne5 62.Bxf5 Nf3+ 63.Kg2 Nh4+ 64.gxh4 Rxf5 65.Kg3 Kf6 66.Kg4 Rc5 67.Rb5 +1.12/41 36.Rxh4 Nf5 37.Rh5 Qc7 38.b4 Kf8 39.a3 Qg7 40.Qd1 R8d6 41.Kh2 Nd4 42.Rxd5 Rxd5 43.g3 Qd7 44.h4 a5 45.Be4 axb4 46.axb4 Rd6 47.Nd3 f5 48.Bg2 Ne6 49.Bf1 Qb5 50.Qe2 f4 51.g4 Qd5 52.Qe5 Qxe5 53.Nxe5 Rd4 54.Nd3 Kg7 55.Kg2 Rd8 56.Ne5 Nd4 57.Nf3 Nxf3 58.Kxf3 Rd1 59.Be2 Rb1 60.b5 Rb4 61.Bf1 Kg6 62.Bd3+ Kh6 63.Be4 Rxb5 64.Kxf4 Rb4 |
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| May-01-16 | | Tiggler: My engine thinks this was all garbage from both sides, starting with black's 35...Rc8? Time trouble I presume. |
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| May-01-16 | | muratski: The last move g3 is a very sadistic move. Abandoning a checkmating continuation for a prolonged torture. Popovic must have had some beef with Timman. |
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| May-10-16 | | psmith: <Jimfromprovidence> Of course! |
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sac: 31.Rxg6+