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Oct-13-10
 | | tamar: Fire on booooored! |
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Oct-13-10
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| Oct-13-10 | | messachess: I liked this game (I have so much trouble against the French--but, don't see it much.) It looked like Shirov's style, meaning it looked risky. If you're a Shirov fan, you kind of hold your breath in a game like this. You wonder, can he pull it off? Does he see things sufficiently? This time he did, at least for a draw against the best. |
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Oct-13-10
 | | Check It Out: Anand was so close to a win here. |
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| Oct-13-10 | | Marmot PFL: If 33...Rc8 its not so easy for white to draw. Black was short of time though (as usual). |
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| Oct-13-10 | | Marmot PFL: Edouard analyzes Rc8 to a draw - <33...Rc8!? 34.h6 c2 35.Qg3+ e5 36.Qa3+ Ke6 37.Qc1 and White holds thanks to the following idea: 37...Qc3 38.h7 Qxa1 39.Rh6+ Phew! 39...Kf5 40.Qxa1 c1Q+ 41.Qxc1 Rxc1+ 42.Kh2 Rc8 43.h8Q Rxh8 44.Rxh8  ; 33...Rh6 34.Rh3 c2 35.Qg3+ Ke7 36.Qa3+ Ke8 37.Rf1 with counterplay.>23 h6 should have been winning for white, and 28 Qg7? was just a lost tempo. |
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| Oct-13-10 | | Eyal: Yeah, the one who mainly missed opportunities here was Anand - 23.h6!! (on move 25 as well) was winning; 28.Nf7+ with the black queen still on a5 was significantly better, as well as 29.Qg3 (see analysis on http://www.chessbase.com/news/2010/...). |
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| Oct-13-10 | | ounos: 18. ...Rh8! is nice, I guess that's still in book, right? |
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| Oct-13-10 | | wanabe2000: The Chessgames Data Base shows 14.Nxd4 as played here. Seems like 14.h4 is a novelty. MCO has a similar position through 10 moves when 11.h4 Qa5 12.h5 g5 13.f4? cxd4 14.Nf3 dxc3+ 15.Ke2 Qa4! was played. (Seirawan-Makarychev, Reykjavik 1990). Anand appears to have improved on this game. Fischer also tried White's Qf4 move before h4 was played. See Fischer vs Rossolimo, 1965 |
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| Oct-13-10 | | visayanbraindoctor: <Eyal: Yeah, the one who mainly missed opportunities here was Anand - 23.h6!! (on move 25 as well) was winning; 28.Nf7+ with the black queen still on a5 was significantly better, as well as 29.Qg3> This is one really messy game. Anand's fans will have to forgive him for understandably missing those computer-like moves. It was also great for gutsy Shirov to take up the fight to the World Champion. |
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Oct-14-10
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Quite astonishing how new ideas keep manifesting themselves in such old variations. 14.h4 is indeed new, if the database is correct, and very brave--letting that d4 pawn live was risky. For myself, the big question is why didn't Anand capture an entire Rook with 19.Nf6+,Ke7; 20.Qxh8. Can Black really conjure a perpetual or more with 20...Qxc3+; 21.Ke2,Nxd3; 22.cxd3,Qc2+? |
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| Oct-14-10 | | Eyal: 14.h5 (not h4) may have surprised Shirov, but it's actually not a novelty (though it hasn't been played before on the highest levels). Fuller databases than the one of CG.com have 18...Rh8 as the first new move - 18...dxc3? was played before, and 18...Qxc3+! is apparently the most accurate in this crazy position. (http://chessok.com/broadcast/?key=b...) |
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| Oct-14-10 | | Eyal: <For myself, the big question is why didn't Anand capture an entire Rook with 19.Nf6+,Ke7; 20.Qxh8. Can Black really conjure a perpetual or more with 20...Qxc3+; 21.Ke2,Nxd3; 22.cxd3,Qc2+?> Black is actually winning in this line - he's a rook up after 22...Qb2+! followed by Qxa1+ & Qxh1. |
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| Oct-14-10 | | Sacsacmate: GM Romain Edouard analysis:
<28.Qg7?? Crazy move! Losing an exceedingly important tempo. Difficult to know what Anand missed. 28.Nf7+ Rxf7 29.Qxf7 Qa4 would be a totally different story, as it would be White to move! And for instance, after 30.Kf1 Qc2 (30...Qd4 31.Qf3 Bb5 32.Rh3 c2 33.Rc1 Qb2 34.Qf4+ e5 35.Qd2  ) 31.Qf4+! Kc6 32.h6 White should win.> |
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| Oct-14-10 | | whiteshark: When Anand played 14.h5 I thought it's already over. |
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| Oct-14-10 | | pferd: <visayanbraindoctor:
This is one really messy game. Anand's fans will have to forgive him for understandably missing those computer-like moves. [23.h6]>I don't think 23.h6 is a computer move - just a good move. On a different day, or with longer time control, Anand (or Kasparov or Fischer) would have found it. |
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| Oct-14-10 | | Eyal: Btw, Anand's missing h6 may be related to his being under the impression that he was winning by force another way. He said in the press conference that after 26.Ne5 f6:
click for larger viewhe was counting on 27.Nc4+ Kc5 28.Qe3+ d4 29.Qf4, but then noticed that Black can save himself by 29...e5! (30.Qxf6 Qc7). |
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| Oct-15-10 | | Eric Farley: This game shows for the nth time that Anand is a mediocre player. Any endgame expert (Capa, Lasker, Rubinstein, Petrosian) would have won. |
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| Oct-15-10 | | crazybird: <Eric Farley> Your interesting comment reminded me of a quote i have always liked. "Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself; but talent instantly recognizes genius" |
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| Oct-17-10 | | SharpAttack: <crazybird> Nice quote! Great response to the poor comment above. |
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| Nov-24-10 | | dadas71: anand is great mastes. |
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| Apr-06-11 | | morfishine: <23.Nxd5+> needs to be explored as a possible improvement |
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| Apr-06-11 | | sevenseaman: < morfishine: <23.Nxd5+> needs to be explored as a possible improvement> Terrific! The only viable response is 23...Kf8 and 24. Qe5 creates more problems for Black, insoluble! And insightful! All moves by Anand hereafter look a bit stilted. He could thank Shirov for going perp. |
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| Apr-06-11 | | sevenseaman: Anand generally is brilliant in his endgame play.
Notwithstanding <crazybird>'s intimidating quote, if confined to this game, I think <Eric Farley> comment is apt and fair. |
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| Nov-17-12 | | wordfunph: "Perhaps I should have played positionally but I was looking for forced lines too much. If you miss one move, you get punished." - Vishy Anand |
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