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Magnus Carlsen vs Wang Hao
Biel Chess Festival (2012), Biel SUI, rd 2, Jul-24
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Classical Variation (E32)  ·  1-0
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Jul-24-12  Rolfo: <Let there be no misunderstanding that I think <Eyal> does his utmost to spend time to offer "balanced" analysis on a number of games, each day, for weeks on end sometimes, and is one of the best in the business.>

I second!!

Jul-24-12  jhelix70: <Eyal: Yeah, Carlsen's practical sense of play proves itself once again; not all the best moves objectively, but it was extremely difficult for Wang Hao to defend...>

Sounds like Emanuel Lasker reborn...

Jul-24-12
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  ajile: <Marmot PFL: 35...Rf5 36 Bxf6 Rxf6 37 f5+ Ke5 38 f4+ and the doubled pawns are strong after all.>


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38.f4+ forces the king away from the rook.

Jul-24-12
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  lost in space: very interesting transformations of his own advantage. First space, later mobility and development, later g-file, bishop pair and active queen.

Pure mastership.

Jul-24-12  onur87: Please look at position after 19.Rhg1. There is an enough lesson. Positional lesson!
Jul-24-12
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  ajile: Black can keep fighting but will still lose with 35..Rd7. Point is the bishop will be pinned after exchanges.

35 .....Rd7
36.fxe5 dxe5
37.Qxh6 exd4
38.cxd4 Rd5
39.Qe3+ Kf7
40.h6 Rh5
41.a4 Kg6
42.Qe7 Rxh6
43.Qxa7 Rh3+
44.Kc4 Kf5


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Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a mp 32-bit : 20 ply

1. (4.73): 11.Qb7 Ra3 12.Qc6 Kg5 13.Qb5+ Kg6 14.Kb4 Ra1 15.Qd3+ Kf7 16.Kb5 Rc1 17.Qb3+ Kg7

2. (4.73): 11.Qa8 Ra3 12.Qc6 Kg5 13.Qb5+ Kg6 14.Kb4 Ra1 15.Qd3+ Kf7 16.Kb5 Rc1 17.Qb3+ Kg7

Jul-24-12  Pedro Fernandez: Without doubt the worst game ever played by Wang Hao in a magisterial tournament. An amateur practically might anticipate almost all the moves Carlsen did. Indeed anyone thinks Carlsen thought deeply in this game? No way! Kinda gift Hao gave to Magnus.
Jul-24-12  HectorChess: <Pedro Fernandez: Without doubt the worst game ever played by Wang Hao in a magisterial tournament.>

hmmm...ok I'll believe you

< An amateur practically might anticipate almost all the moves Carlsen did.>

Well in that case the <amateur> would be thinking like a top GM, don't you think?

<Indeed anyone thinks Carlsen thought deeply in this game?>

Maybe, he's a human after all.

Jul-25-12  coolchess1: Carlsen can play lot more games like these only against low rated opposition. He cannot do these on a consistent basis against Anand/Kramnik/Aronian. He punches the low rated opposition rather nicely, hence wants WCC on a tourney basis. He is a superb player against punching bags.
Jul-25-12
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  Eyal: <kappertjes: I was following the game live and Carlsen was using all his time to calculate alternatives. My take is that he just couldn't see a clear win, despite calculating as much as he could, and his play was therefore aimed at keeping the pressure till he could/would find a way in.>

A video in which Carlsen comments about the game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=3m9...) seems to support this. Btw, he thinks that 5...b6 was a big mistake right out of the opening and so he was apparently in an especially aggressive mood, feeling that Black has to be "punished" for this. He says that he "couldn't believe his eyes" Bxh6 wasn't winning immediately after 16...h6, and overall gives numerous variations that attempt to force a win, especially with the bishop sac, here and in some later moves. The lines aren't all on "computer level", but overall the analysis is quite accurate and objective.

[E.g, he's well aware that 22...Nh5! was much better for Black than Nxd5? and looks quite pissed with himself after showing 23.Be6 Nd3+ 24.Kb1 Rf6 25.Bd4 Rxg6 26.Rxg6 Kh7 and saying that he doesn't know where his attack is going. A couple of things that he missed: he gives 20.Bxh6 gxh6 21.Qd2 Qc7 as saving Black after 22.Qxh6 Nh7, but in fact White is winning after 22.Qd4! followed by Rg6; Black does have a saving move, however, which is 21...Nh7! first and then 22...Qc7 in case of 22.Qxh6. Also, he says that after playing 20.Rg6 he suddenly noticed the possibility of 20...Nfe4 and wasn't sure what to do, giving a couple of lines that lead to unclear positions; Houdini shows a clear win for White after 21.Bxh6! Rxf5 22.Reg1!]

Jul-25-12  HeMateMe: Such a fine eye on how to break open a castled position. Ho seemed on the defensive the whole game.
Jul-25-12  Pedro Fernandez: < HectorChess: <Pedro Fernandez: Without doubt the worst game ever played by Wang Hao in a magisterial tournament.>

hmmm...ok I'll believe you

< An amateur practically might anticipate almost all the moves Carlsen did.>

Well in that case the <amateur> would be thinking like a top GM, don't you think?

<Indeed anyone thinks Carlsen thought deeply in this game?>

Maybe, he's a human after all.>
Well my dear Hector, I didn't see the game this morning, just I saw it about a couple hours ago (now is in Caracas 1:10a.m.). Honestly I anticipate absolutely all the crucial moves Magnus did, simply because all of them were totally natural, logic. After ...5.b6?, 6.e4 was logic. ...6.c5?!(d5!?).7.e5 Ne8 (almost necessary) and the black lack of development is already worrying; b4 black bishop is blocked by its own pawns, that's why MC doesn't play the usual a3. 8.d5 continues restricting black space. ...10.f6 11.exf6, obvious! Now g5 white bishop is a lot active. 12.0-0-0! I had the luck to see this move, but look at the black Queen side! An explanation is not needed! ...12.Bxc3. Indeed this bishop hadn't future compared with this dangerous white knight. ...14.Bxf3??, the loser move and everyone agree. Already white h-(p+R) was dangerous and further Wang opens g-column??? Simply suicide! That's why I said Hao played badly (now white long castling is plenty justified). 16.Bd3, natural! Black knight is pinned but also weaken King defense. ...18.Nc5 (Nxd5??? is mortal for black as it is easily seen). 20.Rg6, the most expeditious way to compromise the position of the black king. ...22.Nxd5, not problem, 23.Bd4 is too much strong. Finally 24.Qd2, the winner move which one everybody had in mind. So my friend, it is not necessary you believe in me (which I appreciate, of course)as I'm totally sure you may convince yourself!

Jul-25-12  Aiuta: <May-13-06 MagnaPsygnosis:> Luckilly carlsen and amigos wont reach that status, so looks like i am going to stay in this game very very long.

in 2007 or 2008 you will say "Magnus who..."

Personally i dont have a problem with magnus as a person... but rather the fact that the GM title is very cheap these days.

Changes are he would have made a better.... soccer player.

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Jul-25-12  Rolfo: < Carlsen can play lot more games like these only against low rated opposition. He cannot do these on a consistent basis against Anand/Kramnik/Aronian. He punches the low rated opposition rather nicely, hence wants WCC on a tourney basis. He is a superb player against punching bags.>

Yeah. There is statistic evidence on who scores better against different group of opposition strength. Carlsen has nothing to be ashamed of in this respect, on the contary he fairs better against high rated opposition than most of the others in your reckoning

Jul-25-12  Al2009: After 16...h6, here it was analysed just 17.Bxh6 !?, which seems rather unclear.

However, even better could be 17.h4! If Black takes the Bg5, then the opening of h file seems mortal. Otherwise, if Black doesn't take the Bg5, and plays for instance 17...Re8, then 18. Bf5! should start a concentrical and winning attack against the Black King. It's a pity that Carlsen did not play a "Tal style" move like 17.h4!

Jul-26-12  Ulhumbrus: 4 Qc2 is the classical variation, a name which brings to mind, apart from the name of Capablanca, the architecture of the Parthenon and more generally good taste. It is true that Caissa insists often on ugly play because the board is a battlefield and not an art studio, but we are nor compelled to like this fact of life.

6 e4 invites 6...Bxc3+ when White must either double his c pawn or sacrifice his e4 pawn.

The capture 8..exd5 draws thebc4 pawn on to the square d5 where it blockades the d6 pawn. This suggests the alternative of 8...d6 at once but after 9 Bg5 f6 10 ef Nxf6 11 de Bxe6 12 0-0-0 prevents the advance ...d5 eg 12...Bxc3 13 Qxc3 d5 14 cd Bxd5 15 Bc4

Instead of 12...Bxc3 12..Ba6 is more flexible so that White can't answer by c4.

With 12...Bxc3. Black breaks up White'a pawn structure but he is unable to make this gain count whereas White able to make his bishop count.

This is also true of the other bishop exchange.

14..Bxf3 shatters White's king side but Black will be unable to make this count whereas White will be able to make his bishop count.

16...h6 disturbs the King side pawns and invotes the attack Rg6 attacking the g7 and h6 pawns. Instead of this 16...Qc7 may concede less.

The game suggests that Carlsen's evaluation of the position has been superior to that of Wang Hao.

Jul-26-12
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  Eyal: <16...h6 disturbs the King side pawns and invotes the attack Rg6 attacking the g7 and h6 pawns. Instead of this 16...Qc7 may concede less.>

16...Qc7 actually concedes the game after 17.Re7! and Black can't defend against the double threat of 18.Bxf6 & 18.Bxh7+! Nxh7 19.Qg6. 16...h6 is pretty much forced if Black wants to prevent Bxh7 (which is threatened by 16.Bd3, because the knight on f6 is pinned).

Jul-26-12
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  Eyal: Joel Benjamin, who analyzed this as game-of-the-day [or round] on ICC, suggested that since 14.Re1 unpins the knight on f3, Wang Hao may have played 14...Bxf3 not so much to weaken White's pawns but because he was nervous about a knight jump to h4 and from there to f5 (or possibly g6, in case h6 is played). But even if that's true, opening the g-file for White's attack seems like a considerably worse concession.
Jul-26-12  Ulhumbrus: <16...Qc7 actually concedes the game after 17.Re7! and Black can't defend against the double threat of 18.Bxf6 & 18.Bxh7+! Nxh7 19.Qg6. 16...h6 is pretty much forced if Black wants to prevent Bxh7 (which is threatened by 16.Bd3, because the knight on f6 is pinned).> In that case an alternative way to answer the pin is 16...Qc8 and if 17 Bf5 Qa6
Jul-26-12
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  Eyal: <an alternative way to answer the pin is 16...Qc8 and if 17 Bf5 Qa6>

This is still very bad for Black. After 16...Qc8 White has a pleasant choice between 17.Bf5 Qa6 18.Re7 Rfe8 19.Be6+ Kh8 20.Rf7 Rf8 21.Rxd7 Nxd7 22.Bxd7 (the point of all the maneuvering before taking on d7 is not to allow Black Re2), or 17.Rhg1 Ne5 (17...Rf7 18.Bxf6 Nxf6 19.Bf5 & 20.Be6) 18.Rxe5 dxe5 19.Bh6 Rf7 20.Bf5 Qf8 21.Be6 Ne8 22.Qf5.

Jul-28-12  Ulhumbrus: <<an alternative way to answer the pin is 16...Qc8 and if 17 Bf5 Qa6> This is still very bad for Black. After 16...Qc8 White has a pleasant choice between 17.Bf5 Qa6 18.Re7 Rfe8 19.Be6+ Kh8 20.Rf7 Rf8 21.Rxd7 Nxd7 22.Bxd7 (the point of all the maneuvering before taking on d7 is not to allow Black Re2), or 17.Rhg1 Ne5 (17...Rf7 18.Bxf6 Nxf6 19.Bf5 & 20.Be6) 18.Rxe5 dxe5 19.Bh6 Rf7 20.Bf5 Qf8 21.Be6 Ne8 22.Qf5.> In the first sequence an alternative to 18...Rfe8 is 18..Ne5 ( eg 19 Nxf6 Rxf6 20 Bxh7+ Kf8) and in the second sequence two alternatives to 19...Rf7 is 19..Nh5 ( eg 20 Rg5 Rf6) and 19...Ne8 ( eg 19 Rg5 Rf6 20 Bf5 Rxf5)
Jul-28-12
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  Eyal: <In the first sequence an alternative to 18...Rfe8 is 18..Ne5> Loses to 19.f4 (19...Nf3 20.Re3).

<in the second sequence two alternatives to 19...Rf7 is 19..Nh5 [...] and 19...Ne8> Both (clearly) losing to 20.Bxh7+, which can be followed directly by Bxg7, as the queen comes to check on g6 in case the bishop is taken.

Jul-29-12
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  whiteshark: Position after <15...Nbd7>


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Deep Fritz 13 @ d=23

1) <16.Rg1> c4 17.Bxc4 Qc7 18.Bb3 Nc5 19.Qd2 Rae8 20.Re3 Nh5 21.Bd1 g6 22.f4 Ng7 23.Bc2 Qf7 24.Bh6 [0.72]

2) 16.Re6 Qc7 17.Re7 Qd8 18.Re3 c4 19.Rg1 Nc5 20.Bxc4 Qd7 21.Bd3 Nxd3+ 22.Qxd3 Nh5 23.Qd4 Rae8 24.f4 Rf7 25.Kc2 Rc8 [0.57]

3) 16.Re3 c4 17.Rg1 Nc5 18.Bxc4 Qd7 19.Bd3 Nxd3+ 20.Qxd3 Rae8 21.Qd4 Nh5 22.f4 Rf7 23.Kc2 Ref8 [0.56]

4) 16.h4 b5 17.h5 c4 18.Rg1 Kh8 19.Qd2 Rg8 20.Rg3 h6 21.Bh4 Qf8 22.Rg6 Nxh5 23.Be7 [0.47]

5) 16.f4 Kh8 17.Rg1 c4 18.Bxc4 Qc7 19.Bb3 Nc5 20.Rg3 Qf7 21.Re6 Nxe6 22.dxe6 Qb7 23.Kb2 Rac8 [0.43]

Aug-02-12
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  Richard Taylor: Carlsen judged (rightly?) that his 2 Bs and the open files (presaging a dangerous attack on Blacks K) compensated for a poor pawn position.

The attack was fairly straight forward but well played.

Feb-14-15  bennyvsfischer: Rg7!!
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