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William Whisler vs Bobby Fischer
"Whisler's Mother" (game of the day May-11-2014)
US Junior ch (1956), Philadelphia, PA USA, rd 3, Jul-02
King's Indian Defense: Saemisch. Closed Variation (E87)  ·  0-1

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May-12-14  kevin86: Yesterday, somebody wished me a happy mother's day- I replied" I'm not a mudder, I don't run in the rain"

Unfinished symphony...

May-12-14  Petrosianic: I once saw a mudder eat her fodder.
May-12-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: Here's mud in your eye...
May-12-14  TheFocus: "Hello, Muddah. Hello, Faddah."
Jun-04-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <FSR.....Is your avatar a depiction of your mental state during that ride?>

<Focus>' former avatar may well have been. (laughs)

Have more recently been subjected to driving one of those monsters--survived, but at 6-2, would not care to make a habit of that!

Jun-05-21
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  FSR: To those unfamiliar with <TheFocus>'s former avatar, see https://www.abebooks.com/Edvard-Mun...
Oct-05-21  Z truth 000000001: Could some editor please add (at least some of) the following:

<
Event: "US Junior Championship (1956)"
Site: "Franklin-Mercantile Chess Club, Philadelphia USA"
Round: "3"
Date: "1956-07-??"
Event Date: "1956-07-01 -- 1956-07-07"

Source: "CL 1999-04 p16 (252) // CL 1956-07-20 p3 // CL 1956-05-05 p1"
Source_url: "http://uscf1-nyc1.aodhosting.com/CL..."

>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCC...

One might say this was Fischer's first big national success, as it was oft mentioned afterwards. His USCF rating in May was a provisional 1750(!), fwiw.

Oct-05-21
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  MissScarlett: The date of the game is July 2nd according to the schedule set out in <Chess Life>, May 5th 1956, p.1.

Here's Fischer's schedule:

July 1 - Round 1: 1/2 <Feuerstein>

July 2 - Round 2: (B) 1-0 <Grossguth>; Round 3: (B) 1-0 <Whisler>

July 3 - Round 4: 1-0 <Geller>; Round 5: 1-0 <Baylor>

July 5 - Round 6: 0-1 <Henin>; Round 7: 1-0 <Weldon>

July 6 - Round 8: 1-0 <Friedman>; Round 9: 1-0 <Blake>

July 7 - Round 10: (W) 1-0 <Kerman>

Oct-05-21  Z truth 000000001: Damn, that was fast work.

Thanks for getting the header data "filled" out - certainly looks better above.

But no love for the <EventDate> PGN tag?!

That's a bit of a shame, it really should be used, and appreciated, more (e.g. it would record the start date of the tournament, giving this game's date to within a day or two).

Tim Harding has written a, er, little about the <EventDate> tag in a now hard-to-find intro to PGN:

https://web.archive.org/web/2014030...

.

Oct-05-21
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  MissScarlett: <e.g. it would record the start date of the tournament, giving this game's date to within a day or two).>

True, it may help to narrow down a missing game date, but I never saw much point in it when we already have <tid>s.

Oct-05-21  Z truth 000000001: When will these knaves ever learn?
Oct-05-21
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  MissScarlett: Forgot about the Blake game:

<July 1 - Round 1: 1/2 <Feuerstein>

July 2 - Round 2: (B) 1-0 <Grossguth>; Round 3: (B) 1-0 <Whisler>

July 3 - Round 4: 1-0 <Geller>; Round 5: 1-0 <Baylor>

July 5 - Round 6: 0-1 <Henin>; Round 7: 1-0 <Weldon>

July 6 - Round 8: 1-0 <Friedman>; Round 9: (B) 1-0 <Blake>

July 7 - Round 10: (W) 1-0 <Kerman>>

Oct-06-21  Z truth 000000001: Where are you getting the colors from?
Oct-06-21
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  MissScarlett: Three of the four should be obvious; the Kerman game is mentioned by Donaldson. Kerman remembered he was on the Black side of a Winawer.
Oct-06-21  Z truth 000000001: <Three of the four should be obvious;>

Sure, if you say so... or not so. Please explain your logic or provide refs for us mere mortals.

Oct-06-21
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  MissScarlett: Check Fischer’s games for 1956.
Oct-06-21  Z truth 000000001: Check them where?

If you're using a ref book (Muller, etc?) why not just say so. And then please explain how the rest of the games get assigned without a Berger table.

.

Oct-06-21
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  MissScarlett: You’re on a chess DB. It’s possible you’re misreading my notation.
Oct-06-21  Z truth 000000001: This is so typically cryptic, your signature move.

OK, I get it. The list only has colors for the games on <CG>. A simple explicit statement would be oh-so-helpful to the reader.

And the rest of the games might benefit from a (?) notation, marking them as missing from <CG>.

.

Oct-06-21  Z truth 000000001: And yes, I missed the (W) for R10, and assumed (B) was marking Black whilst the rest were White. My bad.
Oct-06-21
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  MissScarlett: The games here plus Kerman which is helpfully marked (W). That alone should indicate that all the unmarked games aren’t White by default.
Oct-06-21
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  MissScarlett: Maybe a collection, <Fischer: The Missing Games> would not go amiss.
Oct-06-21  Z truth 000000001: Maybe, but I still would encourage a measure of mercy for the unwary and a helpful comment / key (or two) for the casual reader.

For instance, the list could have the included the links to the available <CG> games, especially given <CG> lack of filtering on Event / Site tags. In that case it truly would have been obvious.

Jul-09-22
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  fearlessone: Maybe score left on time pressure as only half pawn advantage at end 1) +0.50 (26 ply) 28...Rb8 29.a4 Bxa4+ 30.Nxa4 Qxa4+ 31.b3 Qd7 32.Ra1 Nb5 33.Na5 Nd4+ 34.Bxd4 cxd4 35.Nc6 Ra8 36.Ra2 a5 37.Rha1 Bd8 38.b4 a4 39.Rxa4 Rxa4 40.Rxa4 Bb6 41.Ra1 Qe8 42.Kb2 Nd7 43.Ra6 Kh7 44.Kb1 Bc7
Aug-05-24  Polemarque: Fischer was black on R2 and R3, so he was probably white on R1 and R4
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