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Alexander Grischuk vs Vladimir Kramnik
World Championship Candidates (2018), Berlin GER, rd 8, Mar-19
Queen's Gambit Declined: Semi-Tarrasch Defense (D40)  ·  1-0
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Mar-19-18
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  morfishine: A game of insane complications. Kramnik deployed and displayed his hyperactive Bishops, but Grischuk never lost the thread, kudos to him

*****

Mar-19-18
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  hoodrobin: Grischuk was up a pawn and a piece (the King!).
Mar-19-18
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  yiotta: Yes, Grischuk showed great patience in a display of endgame mastery. Many baffling moves. Shereshevsky would have been proud of his performance.
Mar-19-18  RookFile: Kramnik could have exchanged dark squared bishop for knight. For example, 25....Bxd4. That sets up opposite colored bishops, albeit with rooks still on the board. Was he hoping to win instead?
Mar-19-18  DansChessLounge: 71.Bc3 was a brilliant move!! I think Kramnik tried to swindle Grischuk and paid the price by losing a drawn game. For a video recap check out my Youtube channel ---> https://youtu.be/ZkZBTcDL_lg
Mar-20-18  RookFile: 31...Bxc3 would have justified Kramnik's earlier play and probably would have been agreed drawn within a few moves.
Mar-20-18  anjumskhan: Kramnik was born only to de-throne Garry Kaspa.
Mar-20-18  RookFile: ... and beat Topalov. They can't take that one away from Kramnik.
Mar-20-18  SChesshevsky: Kramnik's play has been puzzling. After a good start in a long tough tournament, a logical, practical strategy of then taking likely drawish paths unless clearly better seems natural. Especially when one's the oldest and possibly least prepared participant.

Yet, Kramnik continues to seemingly play for sharp and unclear advantages when the position appears equal and even when he could be worse.

I don't buy his being excessively over optimistic as the reason for this. Yes, Kramnik takes a generally optimistic view of his positions but, as in the Liren post game, he does eventually admit the resulting variations are equal or unclear. So his appraisals seem generally sound.

Here, it could be that Kramnik had put aside any practical strategy for winning the tournament in favor of always playing enterprising chess either because he just would rather play artistically at this stage of his career. Which possibility I believe was mentioned by an announcer earlier this year, maybe Tata Steel?

Or it could be Kramnik feels an obligation to repay the wildcard selection with the most active play.

Whatever, his apparently overly aggressive play has been entertaining but also puzzling and ultimately disappointing for us Kramnik fans.

Mar-20-18  WorstPlayerEver:


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In this line Kramnik played for a win, as I am supposed to believe. It's a completely retarded suggestion -as any +1000 player would agree with me.

75... Bf3 76. Nd5 Be5 is very hard to miss. Even for a +1100 player in the worst kind of time trouble. Considered that we won't find any 1100 player in the Candidates...

Next thing you are gonna tell me is that these guys get more upset in such positions than a +1100 player!

Yeah, right.

Mar-20-18
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  hoodrobin: Kramnik played move-by-move in my impression.
Mar-20-18  Ulhumbrus: The computer evaluations suggest that 76...Bf4+ is a losing mistake. One possible reason is that it robs black of counterplay after 77 Ke2 when the black queen's bishop can't make a counter-attack by ..Bf3

One possible clue as to why Kramnik lost consists of the number of the move, 77. They must have been playing for several hours and Kramnik is older than the other contestants. He may have made a mistake owing to fatigue.

I favour bringing back the traditional adjournments with computers, telephones etc excluded from a player's presence during an adjournment interval. It means however that the organizers will have to spend more money.

Mar-20-18  JohnBoy: Why canít black play 68...Bxe5?
Mar-20-18  frogbert: I for one, think that Kramnik lost all sense of objectivity in this game. He had an easy path to equality as early as move 22 (22... Bxd4 followed by 23... Nf5 picks up white's extra pawn regardless of which piece Grischuk recaptures with) - and also on move 31 Bxc3 should lead to a comfortable draw. Playing for a win a pawn down, when white doesn't really have any weaknesses appears quite absurd to me.

Black had good drawing chances well into the sixth hour of play, but at that point it had become much harder. Very strange approach by Kramnik, to say the least.

Mar-20-18
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  morfishine: How much wood could a Grishchuk chuck if a Grishchuk couldn't chuck wood?
Mar-20-18  CountryGirl: Don't know morfishone, but we know how much Vlad he can chuck...
Mar-20-18  bubuli55: Kramnik had long games this tourney.
Mar-21-18  ACMEKINGKRUSHER: Howdy Again Out There in The Either!
I have read a lot about KRAMNIK and long games with young players! I also noticed LONG GAMES. Abit CURIOUS and a "NUT FOR STATS"... I Broke out my TI-1706-3 "SOLAR POWERED" HAND-HELD Calculator, green pen, and paper, Well there SPORTS FANS. According to my TI... it appears that WE ARE CORRECT! The average Game SO FAR is 45.44 Moves! Here is The list of Players in the order of AVERAGE MOVES PER GAME. IT's Rather Surprising Manedyarov 39.66
Ding 41.88
Aronian 42.22
Karjakin 42.66
Grischuk 43.55
So 46.66
Caruana 47.77
The WINNER is... IT WAS NOT EVEN CLOSE EITHER!
KRAMNIK 58.11

The differences are glaring! In the top 10 Longest Games EVERYONE was involved in AT LEAST 1 or 2. Only Mamedyarov and SO were in 3. While yoy may have guessed...KRAMNIK was in SIX of The TEN Longest Games. 7 if you go to 11. No doubt KRAMNIK has made MORE MOVES THAN ANYONE ELSE PLAYING! I did not look at TIME! Wonder where KRAMNIK sits on LONGEST GAMES AND TIME SPENT? Not sure if he would be tops there considering what I've seen so far! VERRY INTERESTING! Thanks to ALL ofyou out there that made me get out the OLD TI-1706-3 Hand-Held-SOLAR POWERED-Calculator Out Again! It ALWAYS WORKS! Even Inside at Night w/Lamp-Light. But I dither on... WAY TO GO KRAMNIK! Way To Go OLD FARTS!!! HANG IN THERE VLAD!! ACME KING KRUSHER!

Mar-26-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier: Stockfish 8 Depth: 28
0.43 35. ... Bg5 36. Kg4
Mar-26-18
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  cormier: Stockfish 8 Depth: 29
0.63 36. ... Bxg3 37. Kxg3 Bf5 38. Rb2 g6 39. Rb4 Rxb4 40. cxb4 Bd3 41. Kh4 Kg7 42. g4 gxh5 43. gxh5 Be2 44. Bc5 Kg8 45. Be3 Kg7 46. Bd2 Bb5 47. f3 Bc6 48. Kg4 Bd7 49. Be3 Bb5 50. Bf4 Bc6 51. Be3 Ba4 52. Bc5
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