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Jan-25-20 | | hemy: <chesshistoryinterest>
<they give dates of 14-15 May 1967 (whereas you say the match was played at the end of May)>
Since I don't remember exact dates, we may assume that the dates in "Lietuvos Sporto Zinynas 1965-1968" are right. The match was played as a preparation for the "Spartakiad of the peoples of the USSR".
It was played on 10 boards, according to the rules of the "Spartakiad". The discrepancy in the number of games that Mikenas played may have an explanation. Most likely Maslov played only 3 games on the 1st board (as Lithuanian champion). It makes his result 2/3.
Mikenas played 1 game on 1st board (instead of Maslov) and 3 games on 2nd. It makes result of Mikenas 2.5/4. |
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Jan-26-20 | | chesshistoryinterest: <hemy>
I had assumed Mikenas was on Board 1 as he was given as such in both Rusbase and "Lietuvos Sporto Zinynas 1965-1968". But I think you are right that Maslov played Board 1, as he does so in the 1967 Spartakaid and in the Lithuania-Latvia match in March 1967, both times ahead of Mikenas. But the scenario you give still doesn't work. Because earlier you said: <On 1st board Bagirov won against Mikenas 1:0 and against Lithuanian champion Maslov 2.5:0.5>. So this would give Maslov only 0.5/3, not 2/3. Therefore, there is something wrong with the scores given in "Lietuvos Sporto Zinynas 1965-1968". In addition: (1) Both you and Rusbase say Vistaneckis obtained 3/3, whereas "Lietuvos Sporto Zinynas 1965-1968" says he only got 2.5. So there's a definite error there. (2) The scores given for the 8 players listed in "Lietuvos Sporto Zinynas 1965-1968" already total 19.5. And the implied scores from this for their opponents is only 12.5. Therefore they need another 4-0 somewhere to bring their score up to 16.5. This implies you would have lost 0-4, but you say you scored 3 draws and a win. (3) <It was played on 10 boards>. The total score of games in the match is 36 (19.5 plus 16.5). As there were 4 rounds, this must imply there were 9 boards. If there were 10 boards, the total score of games would be 40. It seems to me that there were 9 boards, but 10 players, with not all players (eg Vistaneckis) playing 4 games. (This is assuming that the match score of 19.5-16.5, given in both Rusbase and "Lietuvos Sporto Zinynas 1965-1968", is correct.) So it looks like there are definite errors in the scores given in "Lietuvos Sporto Zinynas 1965-1968" to such an extent that none of the scores given there are reliable. Rusbase looks better. They give the correct scores for Vistaneckis and Kaushilaite; and give the correct number of boards. It is just their board order that is incorrect. |
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Jan-26-20 | | hemy: <chesshistoryinterest>
<On 1st board Bagirov won against Mikenas 1:0 and against Lithuanian champion Maslov 2.5:0.5> I made typing mistake, sure it was 0.5:2.5> I agree that it is big mess. Rusbase and "Lietuvos Sporto Zinynas 1965-1968" are not an original sources, they are a secondary, copying from other sources. From contemporary source - "Shachmati" magazine we have:
I.Vistaneckis 3/3
Kausilaite 3/4
Bagirov - Maslov 2.5:0.5
Lithuania - Latvia 19.5:16.5
So you right, match was played on 9 boards.
After adjusting results table from "Lietuvos Sporto Zinynas 1965-1968"
we have:
V.Mikënas 2.5:1.5
L.Maslovas 0.5:2.5
A.Butnorius 2:2
I.Vistaneckis 3:0
D.Lapienis 2:2
V.Kausilaitë 3:1
M.Kartanaitë 2.5:1.5
I.Raugaitë 3:1
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18.5:11.5
At morning on the 1st day Azerbaijan team came to Vilnius me and Vistaneckis vent to hotel "Vilnia" to meet them.
Is was a day free of the match that started the next day.
Angelika Saakova was my guest this day.
I may be wrong, but from my memory Saakova won the match against Raugaite. |
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Jan-26-20 | | chesshistoryinterest: <hemy>
Sorry to keep querying this one - something is still not right. If we take your score for the 8 players listed of <18.5:11.5>, then add your own score <I played on board 7 against Gennadi Govashelishvili and fished 2.5:1.5, winning the last game>, then we get a score of 21:13. But Lithuania's total score was only 19.5. Perhaps part of the problem resides in the score given for I.Raugaite. If your memory is correct and Saakova beat her, then the score given for her of 3:1 cannot be correct. It would be interesting to know what source "Lietuvos Sporto Zinynas 1965-1968" used. Whatever it was, somebody messed up somewhere. Appreciate you giving us the interesting little details at the end. |
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Jan-26-20 | | hemy: <chesshistoryinterest>
"Lietuvos Sporto Zinynas 1965-1968" made too many mistakes in results of this match. I can not point of more mistakes than I already mentioned, but it is possible that it was more. |
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Apr-12-20 | | hemy: Lithuanian language newspaper "Draugas", (Chicago, Illinois), December 13, 1963, p.2: "... Kaunas team (Maslov, Alekseev, Ostrauskas, Butnorius and Spikiene won Lithuanian team championship with 25 points. Vilnius (Mikenas, Lapenis, Vistaneckis, Kasimov, Kausilaite) - 24 points..." This article returned some memories about my chess activities at high school period.
Master Vistaneckis honored my school principal with short visit. It resulted with permission to skip lessens when I represented Vilnius or Lithuania in tournaments. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ziiee9bqr... |
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Apr-20-20 | | hemy: Lithuanian language newspaper "Draugas", (Chicago, Illinois), February 13, 1970, p. 2: "... Vilnius chess players defeated Kaliningrad region team 14:10 (7:5 7:5). 2 points scored only Lithuanian women champion M. Kartanaite. D. Lapenis and N. Kasimovas scored 1.5 each one, Vistaneckis 1, Vladas Mikenas only 0.5 point..." https://www.dropbox.com/s/qcsmaezva... https://www.dropbox.com/s/95qc67o96... |
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Apr-29-20 | | chesshistoryinterest: <hemy>
Great that you are posting these "Draugas" finds. This last one in particular is a good find as it appears in neither Bertasius or Rusbase. |
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Aug-19-20
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<hemy> today you are honored as cg.com "Player of the Day." ========
Player of the Day
Nechemia Kasimov (1947-)
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Now is a good time to reflect on how fortunate we are to have you here. That is what I will do today. |
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Aug-19-20
 | | Stonehenge: Happy Birthday :) |
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Aug-19-20 | | vonKrolock: Many happy returns! (* ... and keep the good work) |
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Aug-19-20
 | | perfidious: I second <vonKrolock>'s wishes, with thanks for all you have contributed here! |
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Aug-19-20
 | | moronovich: Happy Birthday ! |
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Aug-19-20 | | jith1207: Here's to many many more, in the Pink of health, happy birthday <hemy>. |
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Aug-19-20 | | hemy: <jessicafischerqueen> - thanks for your friendship and for always taking interest in my work.
<Stonehenge> <vonKrolock><perfidious><jith1207> - thanks for the birthday greetings.
I'm trying my best by contributing to CG, while most of the time I'm busy with "Lithuanian chess history up to XXI century" project.
My friend and coauthor Eugenijus Paleckis (Klaipeda, Lithuania) writing it in Lithuanian language. It is too big for 1 book and most likely will include 7 books. One more, thank you all for appreciating my contribution to CG. |
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Aug-24-20 | | hemy: I was surprised by receiving premium membership of CG that I didn't apply and didn't pay for.
The usual suspect is <jessicafischerqueen>, who is doing it anonymously.I'm lucky to be a member of great CG community, where I found many friends. I received from <Annie> advise regarding publishing online chapters of the "Lithuanian chess history up to XXI century" project.
Appears that many publishers may reject books that can already be found online. Meanwhile the chapter 2, "History of Lithuanian chess before the First World War" is almost ready. The only chess player with "incomplete" bio is Lewis J Isaacs.
Any help will be appreciated. |
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Aug-25-20
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<hemy> I also think it would be best to publish a print run first. Are you guys going to make an English translation as well? |
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Aug-25-20 | | hemy: <JFQ> <Are you guys going to make an English translation as well?> Eugenijus speaks only Lithuanian and Russian. My English is not good enough for such a task. First we will try to find some institution or person in Lithuania who is willing to sponsor book editing + printing. Later we will check the possibility of translation to English. Both of us volunteering, like in the "Jews in Lithuania chess history" project, where Boris Rositsan provided budget and became "coauthor". |
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Aug-25-20 | | jith1207: I hope you got some help from Lewis J Isaacs 's great great grand daughter, Jessica Isaacs who recently kibitzed here with an offer to provide known information. |
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Aug-26-20 | | hemy: <jith1207> I just sent to Jessica Ausman reminder about her promise to collect information from her family.
On my email of July 14 she responded on the next day. Since than I didn't received from her new message. I guess she wasn't able to found information about Lewis J Isaacs Anyway I'm getting help from my friends <Tabanus> and Alan McGowan (author of the book "Kurt Richter: A Chess Biography with 499 games). |
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Nov-25-20 | | cameosis: <hemy> could you confirm if your name below is written correctly or whether it’s misspelled? lithuanian: Kasimovas, Nechemijas
hebrew: קסימוב, נחמיה
russian: Касимов, Нехемия (or Неемия) for my player database, i add the players’ names in their native form as well, including the variants of the places where they lived or were born. finally, could you tell me your patronymic, as i include it for all players who were born during the period of the russian empire and soviet union. either here or by email would be greatly appreciated - cameosis@gmx.net thanks much in advance,
tomis |
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Nov-26-20 | | hemy: <cameosis> You spelled it right in Lithuanian and Hebrew. In Russian my name is Нехемья Касимов.
The name of Mikhail Tal's father is also Нехемья. Full name of Tal in Russian is Таль, Михаил Нехемьевич.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/i... My father's name in Lithuanian is Benjamin, in Russian - Беньямин, in Hebrew - בנימין My name in English should be Nekhemia, not Nechemia. Like many other names it was translated with the spelling of original documents. |
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Nov-26-20
 | | perfidious: <hemy>, which makes sense, Tal's patronymic being Nekhemy(i)evich. |
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Nov-26-20 | | cameosis: <hemy> excellent, thank you. totally forgot about tal, whom i already had in my database with his complete name in latvian and russian ... heh i had copied the english spelling from the chessgames profile, as i thought this is the version that you preferred. updated it in my database! |
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Dec-21-23 | | hemy: The project "Lithuanian chess history" in Lithuanian language
(Lietuvos šachmatų istorija) is now available to download from
https://lksf.lt/lietuvos-sachmatu-i....
It is 3475 pages pdf, project that together with Eugenijus Paleckis
we worked on since 2016.
Many of colleagues from around the glob contributed to this project,
thanks for all of them.
The biggest contribution belongs to dear friend from New Zealand
<chesshistoryinterest>. Our priority was to publish it on chessgames.com.
On December 23, 2022 I received response from Susan:
"Thanks for reaching out, we are interested in making this possible."
On November 20, 2023 I reminded her about publishing this project on CG,
but didn't get response ones more, so we published it on the website of
Lithuanian correspondence chess federation. |
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