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Gashimov 2016 Moves Prediction Contest

<Main Focus>: Predicting how many moves in a game for each pairing. tournament page:

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[player]-[player] [result] [# of MOVES]

==4 Different Scoring Methods==

Standard Moves Ranker (1st place-Over[3pts], 1st place-Under [7pts], Exact [10pts])

Bonus Ranker (3rd place-Over[1pts],2nd place-Over[2pts],3rd place-Under [5pts], 2nd place-Under [6pts]

Standard Moves/Bonus Ranker [Add all to together]

1st place Ranker [how many 1st place you have in Standard Moves Ranker]

For example:

<Note: Participants 3, 4, and 5 are predicated on nobody scoring an exact as Participant 2 did. If someone hits an exact, the closest score under and over will score the points for second place.>

Actual Game: [player]-[player] 0-1 45

Participant 1: [player]-[player] 1/2 45
Participant 2: [player]-[player] 0-1 45
Participant 3: [player]-[player] 0-1 44
Participant 4: [player]-[player] 0-1 43
Participant 5: [player]-[player] 0-1 46

Participant 1: No points even though 45 is correct. Results must be correct. If Result is wrong and moves # is get no points whatsoever

Participant 2: 10 pts rewarded for correct Result/moves #

Participant 3: 7 pts rewarded for closest under (1st-Under) to 45 moves

Participant 4: 6 pts rewarded for the 2nd closest under (2nd-Under) to 45 moves.

Participant 5: 3 pts rewarded closest OVER(1st-OVER) to 45 moves.

Again, the description of Participant 3, 4, and 5 are based on there being no exact prediction as made by Participant 2.

<IF> there is an exact or an under closest, the highest scoring over participant will be 2nd over. The second closest over will be 3rd over. The <ONLY> time there will be a first over is if there is no exact or under winner.

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Moves Prediction Contest

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  Golden Executive: Round 10

So - Carlsen 1/2 25
Giri - Nakamura 1/2 25
Karjakin - Wei 1/2 25

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  OhioChessFan: So - Carlsen 1/2 44
Giri - Nakamura 1/2 32
Karjakin - Wei 1-0 40
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  chessmoron: So - Carlsen 1/2 38
Giri - Nakamura 1/2 40
Karjakin - Wei 1/2 41
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: Round 10:

So - Carlsen 1/2 40
Giri - Nakamura 1/2 34
Karjakin - Wei 1/2 36

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  WinKing: Round 10

So - Carlsen 1/2 44
Giri - Nakamura 1/2 40
Karjakin - Wei 1/2 36

Good luck to all today!

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  SwitchingQuylthulg: Round 10 games have started.
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  chessmoron: ♔ Bilbao 2016: <FINAL Round> Result ♔

<Giri-Nakamura, 1/2-1/2 in 48 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['lostemperor', '1/2-1/2', '44']]
2nd Under, 6 points: [['chessmoron', '1/2-1/2', '40'], ['WinKing', '1/2-1/2', '40'], ['juan31', '1/2-1/2', '40']]

3rd Under, 5 points: [['SwitchingQuylthulg', '1/2-1/2', '34']]

Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []


<Karjakin-Wei, 1/2-1/2 in 26 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['Golden Executive', '1/2-1/2', '25']]

2nd Under, 6 points: []
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['alfamikewhiskey', '1/2-1/2', '31']]

3rd Over, 1 point1: [['wordfunph', '1/2-1/2', '32']]


<So-Carlsen, 1/2-1/2 in 38 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: [['chessmoron', '1/2-1/2', '38']]
Under, 7 points: []
2nd Under, 6 points: [['lostemperor', '1/2-1/2', '36']]

3rd Under, 5 points: [['alfamikewhiskey', '1/2-1/2', '34']]

Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['juan31', '1/2-1/2', '39']]
3rd Over, 1 point1: [['SwitchingQuylthulg', '1/2-1/2', '40']]

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  chessmoron: FINAL Round Summary:

Perfect # moves predictions for this round goes to:


Highest scores in the Bonus Ranker: 8 points: <juan31>


Moves Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID, Over, Under, Exact

♔ 45, WinKing, 0, 5, 1
♘ 35, SwitchingQuylthulg, 0, 5, 0
♗ 30, alfamikewhiskey, 3, 3, 0
♗ 30, chessmoron, 1, 1, 2
24, lostemperor, 1, 3, 0
17, wordfunph, 1, 2, 0
14, Golden Executive, 0, 2, 0
14, Penguincw, 0, 2, 0
10, juan31, 0, 0, 1
10, OhioChessFan, 1, 1, 0


Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID, 3-Over, 2-Over, 3-Under, 2-Under

♔ 55, juan31, 3, 1, 4, 5
♘ 52, SwitchingQuylthulg, 1, 1, 5, 4
♗ 42, Penguincw, 1, 1, 3, 4
41, lostemperor, 2, 2, 1, 5
38, WinKing, 3, 0, 1, 5
24, OhioChessFan, 0, 4, 2, 1
23, chessmoron, 0, 1, 3, 1
19, wordfunph, 3, 2, 0, 2
17, Golden Executive, 2, 2, 1, 1
10, alfamikewhiskey, 1, 2, 1, 0


Moves+Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID

♔ 87, SwitchingQuylthulg
♘ 83, WinKing
♗ 65, lostemperor
65, juan31
56, Penguincw
53, chessmoron
40, alfamikewhiskey
36, wordfunph
34, OhioChessFan
31, Golden Executive


Moves Ranker (# of 1st place UNDER/OVER) - Through <FINAL Round>


♔ 6, alfamikewhiskey
♔ 6, WinKing
♘ 5, SwitchingQuylthulg
♗ 4, chessmoron
♗ 4, lostemperor
3, wordfunph
2, Golden Executive
2, OhioChessFan
2, Penguincw
1, juan31

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  chessmoron: ♙<WINNER'S CORNER>

♔♔♘ <WinKing> Bil16:StdMvRnk(1) + StdMv/Bonus(2) + 1stRanker(1t)

♔♘♘♘ <SwitchingQuylthulg> Bil16:StdMvRnk(2) + BonusRnk(2) + StdMv/Bonus(1) + 1stRanker (2)

♔♗ <alfamikewhiskey> Bil16:StdMvRnk(3t) + 1stRanker(1t)

<juan31> Bil16:BonusRnk(1)

♗♗ <chessmoron> Bil16:StdMvRnk(3t) + 1stRanker(3t)

♗♗ <lostemperor> Bil16:StdMv/Bonus(3) + 1stRanker(3t)

<Penguincw> Bil16:BonusRnk(3)

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  Golden Executive: <chessmoron> I guess you are missing a bronze medal for <Juan31>.

Moves+Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID

♔ 87, SwitchingQuylthulg
♘ 83, WinKing
<♗ 65, lostemperor > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
<65, juan31>

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  chessmoron: <GE> Okay, fixed.
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  OhioChessFan: ** Final Recap **

We ended up with a divided leaderboard as nobody was able to take control in the final round. <WinKing> took home 2 golds, along with a silver. <Switch> had 1 gold and 3 silvers. <amw> held on for one gold and a bronze. <juan31> had the final gold along with a bronze. <chessmoron> finally showed up in the last round to earn 2 bronze, <lostemperor> quietly had 2 bronze and <Penguincw> had 1 bronze. <OhioChessFan> had nothing, and wasn't even close.

Thanks to everyone for playing. Thanks to <chessmoron> for running the show, <Switch> and <Win> and <tpstar> for being the starters, and congratulations to the winners.

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  juan31: Thanks to < chessmoron and OhioChessFan> congratulations to all.
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  wordfunph: <chessmoron> <OhioChessFan>, thanks for the nth time.

cheers to the winners!

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  Golden Executive: Thanks to <chessmoron> for running and <OhioChessFan> for hosting the show.!

Congratulations to all the medal winners, particularly to <WinKing> on his double-crown.!

See you guys next time.

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  WinKing: Thanks to <chessmoron> for running the contest & to <OhoChessFan> for hosting this contest!

Congratulations to all of those winning medals! It is always fun, for me, when I can go toe to toe with a rival like <Switch>. It is no secret that he is probably the most dangerous & formidable of all of the contestants here. Kudos <Switch> on picking up your record 38th overall gold medal(all prediction contests). I would also like to commend <juan31> & <alfamikewhiskey> for standing their ground & each of them taking home a gold medal for their trophy case. Well done guys!

Looking forward to the next contest. Are you planning on doing the 'Grand Chess Tour' Sinquefield Cup 2016 event <chessmoron>? If you feel like taking a break & just playing in a contest for a change I would be happy to run the Sinquefield Cup event. Just let me know. (Sinquefield runs from August 5th thru August 14th - 9 rounds - ten players)

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  WinKing: Thanks <GE>! :)
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: Thanks to <chessmoron> and <OhioChessFan>, and congratulations to the winners and medalists!

My fourth triple-silver in less than a year... still waiting for the dreaded quad-silver.

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  WinKing: <SwitchingQuylthulg: My fourth triple-silver in less than a year... still waiting for the dreaded quad-silver.>

I don't know if that(quad-silver) has ever been done <Switch>? I think I have gone the triple-silver route a few times myself. We would have to check with the in-house guru <Penguincw> to see for sure if it has ever been done.

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  Penguincw: As always, thanks to <chessmoron> and <OhioChessFan> for making this contest possible.

Congrats to <WinKing> for winning his 5th double crown, tying him with <cm> for most double crowns. He is also now tied with <cm> on the overall HOF (all 3 contests). This is also his 7th multiple crown. With these gold, he moves within one gold of passing <cm> on the all-time HOF.

Congrats to <Switch> for winning 4 medals, <alfamikewhiskey> and <juan31> for winning a gold, and congrats to the other medalists too.

Hope to see you soon (Sinquefield?).

< WK: [Quadruple Silver] >

Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by quadruple silver. You could mean winning 4 medals of silver or higher in 1 contest. If so, then that's done many times before, ex. ♔♔♔♘ by <Switch> in Bazna 2011: OhioChessFan chessforum (kibitz #6232).

However, if you mean winning 4 silvers in 1 contest, I'll have to see. But, there is a list of all medals won in this contest (starting with this post OhioChessFan chessforum (kibitz #14207)), and I'm sure it's just a matter of filtering and all.

Just briefly checking, I don't see such an instance, but I do see several triple silvers, including 3 by <Switch> in 1 fiscal year.

I do keep a list of gold medal leaders, like <YouRang>/<Golden Executive> does. I still need to update it for this tournament, and apparently some of my data doesn't match the list of medal winners, so I'll have to look into it.

User: Gold Medal Leaders

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  WinKing: <Penguincw: However, if you mean winning 4 silvers in 1 contest, I'll have to see.>

Yes, this is what I mean. Has anyone ever won just 4 straight silvers(♘♘♘♘) in one contest with no gold? I don't remember this ever happening as long as I have been playing. But maybe previously???

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  alfamikewhiskey: Thanks a lot for hosting - enjoyable :)
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  OhioChessFan: A quadruple silver would be tough. Of course, the tough one is the Bonus Ranker, where you have to score all your points without a first. Moves Ranker and #1 Ranker have quite a bit of overlap, and usually the same people will be near the same place in both. Moves+Bonus Ranker can be won by a strong Moves Ranker score and a mediocre Bonus score. So getting 3 of the 4 is pretty doable.

But adding Bonus Ranker into the mix jacks up the difficulty greatly. In this contest, <juan> won Bonus while having a very poor Bonus score, so bad he tied with me! To pull a gold in all 4 is just a major achievement. I can't decide if a quad silver is harder than a quad gold, although I suspect it is. For the gold, you can be way ahead of the field in one or more rankers, but for the silver, you're going to have a very narrow field of possible scores that hit just the right range.

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