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Mar-09-24
 | | Tabanus: <z> The Seirawan - Timman match was not part of the WC cycle. Kavalek second in the 1/4-final in Brussels, ok. Biographer Bistro (kibitz #19277), eighthfinal discussion start in 2019. |
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Mar-09-24
| | Tabanus: Anand - Dreev Candidates Eighthfinal (1991), saved by Sportsworld. |
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Mar-09-24
 | | jnpope: Eighthfinal.
<We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.> So the rounds prior would be the sixteenthfinal and thirtysecondfinal? |
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Mar-09-24
 | | Stonehenge: Is <Hors Concours> acceptable English or should it be <off contest> or something else? |
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Mar-09-24
| | jnpope: It's acceptable French. I don't recall seeing it adopted in English. Without knowing the context I'd define it as "not part of the competition". Which can apply to those being unworthy or being far too superior to compete depending on the context. |
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Mar-09-24
| | Stonehenge: I have used it twice:
Ukrainian Championship (1957) Young Masters Championship (1966) Not eligible for the prizes or something. |
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Mar-09-24
 | | MissScarlett: <I don't recall seeing it adopted in English.> I would class it as an expression that an educated English-speaker should know. It's usually used with respect to the art world, but it would not be out of place for a chess master mixing it with the natives. |
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Mar-09-24
 | | keypusher: A civilian opinion -- not many people know what <hors concours> means, but there does not seem to be any English equivalent. So I would use it, faute de mieux. |
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| Mar-09-24 | | stone free or die: RE: Biographer Bistro (kibitz #28526) It figures that <jnpope> would be be so thorough as to specify the edition in the <Source> tag when one is needed. I wonder if Harding and others did the same - or perhaps they never had the need? I guess I'll have to keep this concept more central in my mind in futher researching. |
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| Mar-09-24 | | stone free or die: <<jn> Actually, two sections. You'll notice the Volume number, Issue number, and price, is given on the first page of one section and missing from the second section. Sloppy work on the part of the LOC.> Ah, I didn't look closely enough - thanks for clearing that up. I guess the take home lesson is the usual - biographers always need to be on the lookout. As long as all the pages are available for review it's likely we can eventually piece it all together. |
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| Mar-09-24 | | stone free or die: <<tab> <z> The Seirawan - Timman match was not part of the WC cycle. Kavalek second in the 1/4-final in Brussels, ok.> Ah, I see, I just assumed it was since most of the article was about the cycle. The death notice was just added at the end because it was topical. <Biographer Bistro (kibitz #19277), eighthfinal discussion start in 2019.> I did mention being late to the discussion! |
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| Mar-09-24 | | stone free or die: RE: <hors concours> I see that RUSbase uses <off contest>, which is ok, but I prefer <hors concours>. Not only does it have a certain, er, élan, but it's also standard English with a clear definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dic... |
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Mar-09-24
 | | perfidious: I have seen <hors concours> used by Cafferty in at least one of his game collections, and possibly also by Vasiliev in his work on Petrosian. 'Off contest' is a phrase I have never seen and seems, at best, awkward. My preference would be to plump for the French expression and damn the torpedoes. |
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Mar-09-24
| | MissScarlett: In the oeuvre of Harry Golombek, its usage was de rigueur. |
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| Mar-10-24 | | BarakSaltz: I sent Edo Ratings a report on the Prague Chess Congress of 1872, yet sort of wonder who exactly F.L. Fischer/Fišer was. |
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| Mar-10-24 | | stone free or die: <Barak> - well, he was from Prague [Praha]. ~<<PRVNÍ SJEZD ČESKÝCH ŠACHISTU (May 18-20 1872)>Světozor was at the birth of the first convention of Czech chess players, which took place in Prague in May (18-20) 1872. Surprisingly won the first prize of 50 gold in the main two-round tournament F.L.Fišer from Prague 5.5 before Ant.Kvíčala 4.5, K.Makovský and J.Paclt 3.5 and J. Dobruský 3 points.> [xtab included of RR-2]
https://www.chess.cz/wp-content/upl... [How to transliterate <F.L.Fišer>? Fiser or Fisher (or even Fischer?)?] |
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| Mar-10-24 | | BarakSaltz: It appears that F.L. Fischer won a problem tournament using the alias of "Anonymus von Chrudim". |
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| Mar-10-24 | | stone free or die: What sources are you using <Barak>? I found a <Frankt. Fiser> here (not in a chess context though, I'm afraid): https://www.digitalniknihovna.cz/mz... |
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| Mar-10-24 | | BarakSaltz: I might have misread "Österreichische Schachzeitung" indicating Dobrusky/Dobruvsky as "Anonymus von Chrudim". |
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Mar-10-24
| | Tabanus: Karpov - Anand Candidates Quarterfinal (1991) |
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Mar-10-24
| | MissScarlett: How many games from <Bradford 1888> does Chessbase have? <cg> has 79. Beat that! |
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Mar-10-24
| | jnpope: Well, I'm not sure how many they have at the moment, but I see they have a few we are missing, such as Mortimer-Mackenzie:
https://books.google.com/books?id=e... |
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| Mar-11-24 | | stone free or die: <Z-base> has 92 games with more than 2 moves (or 4-ply). Some of these are fragments, or nullified games, admittedly. https://zanchess.wordpress.com/2016... BTW - Shouldn't <London (1883)> have a ref (or credit) to <zanchess>? |
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Mar-11-24
| | jnpope: Ok, they have nine more than CG:
Mortimer-Mackenzie
Mortimer-Taubenhaus
Lee-Mason
Taubenhaus-Skipworth
Gunsberg-Mason
Weiss-Mason
Owen-Lee
Locock-Hall
Locock-Thorold
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| Mar-11-24 | | stone free or die: Who's "they"? |
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