| European Club Cup (2017) |
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The 33rd European Chess Club Cup was a 7-round Swiss system team tournament held in the Avantgarde Hotel, Göynük, Antalya Province, Turkey, 8-14 October 2017. Time control: 90 minutes for 40 moves, then 30 more minutes till the end of the game, with a 30-second increment per move from move 1. Standings were determined by match points (2-1-0). Each match was played on six boards, and each team could have two reserve players. There were 36 teams and 255 players. Alkaloid (Macedonia) were the defending champions, while Globus (Russia) were the top seeds. Tournament director: Ozgur Solakoglu. Chief arbiter: Tugan Unal. Globus won with a score of 12/14 (+5 =2 -0), one point ahead of Alkaloid, Odlar Yurdu (Azerbaijan) and AVE Nový Bor (Czech Republic). Odlar Yurdu led by a point before the last round, but lost 2.5-3.5 in their final match against Nový Bor. Official site: http://euroclubcup2017.tsf.org.tr/
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Year | Event/Locale | Opening |
| 1. H Steingrimsson vs Mamedyarov |
| 0-1 | 26 | 2017 | European Club Cup | C41 Philidor Defense |
| 2. Karjakin vs O Johannesson |
 | 1-0 | 25 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B48 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation |
| 3. S Bjornsson vs Giri |
 | 0-1 | 36 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B90 Sicilian, Najdorf |
| 4. Nepomniachtchi vs D Kjartansson |
| 1-0 | 20 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A18 English, Mikenas-Carls |
| 5. J Hardarson vs A Korobov |
| 0-1 | 24 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D43 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav |
| 6. Khismatullin vs J Halldorsson |
| 1-0 | 13 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A11 English, Caro-Kann Defensive System |
| 7. Ding Liren vs L Lodici |
| ½-½ | 29 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D35 Queen's Gambit Declined |
| 8. A Bertagnolli vs D Andreikin |
| 0-1 | 29 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B06 Robatsch |
| 9. Y Yu vs N Paltrinieri |
| 1-0 | 39 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A96 Dutch, Classical Variation |
| 10. A Barp vs Jakovenko |
| 0-1 | 50 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D93 Grunfeld, with Bf4 & e3 |
| 11. Kryvoruchko vs R Marsili |
| 1-0 | 41 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B36 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto |
| 12. F Seresin vs F Pancevski |
| 1-0 | 26 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A85 Dutch, with c4 & Nc3 |
| 13. O Sepp vs M Matlakov |
| 0-1 | 40 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A35 English, Symmetrical |
| 14. V Fedoseev vs E Ronka |
| 1-0 | 27 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A48 King's Indian |
| 15. T Kokkila vs Vitiugov |
| 0-1 | 64 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B28 Sicilian, O'Kelly Variation |
| 16. M Rodshtein vs H Koskinen |
| 1-0 | 37 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav |
| 17. H Salo vs I Khairullin |
| 0-1 | 58 | 2017 | European Club Cup | E47 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3 O-O 5.Bd3 |
| 18. A Goganov vs M Alava |
| 1-0 | 24 | 2017 | European Club Cup | E71 King's Indian, Makagonov System (5.h3) |
| 19. Harikrishna vs A Tari |
| 1-0 | 41 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B11 Caro-Kann, Two Knights, 3...Bg4 |
| 20. J Christiansen vs Navara |
| 0-1 | 39 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A09 Reti Opening |
| 21. M Ragger vs B Kvisvik |
| 1-0 | 41 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D02 Queen's Pawn Game |
| 22. O B Vea vs Sasikiran |
| 0-1 | 40 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B20 Sicilian |
| 23. V Laznicka vs A Bryn |
| 1-0 | 44 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B12 Caro-Kann Defense |
| 24. M Danielsen vs M Bartel |
| 0-1 | 17 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4 |
| 25. D Abbas vs E Inarkiev |
| 0-1 | 31 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation |
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| Oct-08-17 | | PhilFeeley: Board pairings:
http://euroclubcup2017.tsf.org.tr/e... |
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Oct-08-17
 | | Sally Simpson: Kramnik is not playing in the first match......Where he would have had Black. |
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Oct-08-17
 | | AylerKupp: <cplyakap> If those are the numbers that Bennedik reported, then he is wrong. There are two ways of specifying the “averages”, and it’s a lot easier than what you describe. 1. Use the official FIDE ratings though the Oct-2017 rating list. In that case Caruana’s average rating is 2810.50, So’s is 2810.10, and Kramnik’s is 2806.50. These do NOT reflect Caruana’s and Kramnik’s performances in the Isle of Man Open. 2. Use their current live ratings (Caruana’s 2799, So’s 2788, and Kramnik’s 2786) and project them through Dec-2017. These will likely be correct for Caruana and So since they are scheduled to play in any more games this year, so they are projected to finish with averages of 2808.58 for Caruana and 2806.42 for So. But these projections are obviously not necessarily accurate for Kramnik since he has not finished playing all his games for 2017. He needs to gain 16 rating points to overtake So (not likely but not impossible), finishing with an average rating of 2806.58. And that depends not just on his score but on the ratings of his opponents. Yet Kramnik didn't play today since Mamedyarov, Karjakin, Giri, and Nepomniachtchi played and they all won. I have no idea why Kramnik didn’t play unless he requested not to. Perhaps, as <Sally Simpson> indicated, he was scheduled to have Black. But that didn’t seem to stop Mamedyarov and Giri from winning, who were rated about 200 and 500 points more than their opponents. |
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| Oct-08-17 | | alfamikewhiskey: Wild R1 game between Johan-Sebastian Christiansen and David Navara (which Navara will win). |
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| Oct-08-17 | | cormier: http://www.chessdom.com/european-ch... |
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| Oct-08-17 | | cormier: Christiansen, Johan-Sebastian 0 - 1 Navara, David |
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| Oct-08-17 | | soldal: https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-t... |
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| Oct-09-17 | | PhilFeeley: <alfamikewhiskey: Wild R1 game between Johan-Sebastian Christiansen and David Navara (which Navara will win).> A ridiculous opening by black. By move 11, without any pieces or pawns being exchanged, the evaluation was almost +2 for white. |
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| Oct-09-17 | | Pedro Fernandez: Hey <AylerKupp>, I'm a bit confused about the "holes" still to "fill" in Candidates: Anand, Kramnik, MVL, Svidler, etc. for just name some possible. But what is it actually the situation? May you please clarify this? No matters for me if you gonna be a bit conjectural, THX! |
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| Oct-09-17 | | PhilFeeley: Second round pairings are up and still no Kramnik. He won't get his points this way. |
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| Oct-09-17 | | PhilFeeley: <Classical games: Shakhriyar Mamedyarov beat Liviu Dieter Nisipeanu 1 to 0, with 6 draws.
Including rapid/exhibition games: Shakhriyar Mamedyarov tied Liviu Dieter Nisipeanu 1 to 1, with 7 draws.
Only rapid/exhibition games: Liviu Dieter Nisipeanu beat Shakhriyar Mamedyarov 1 to 0, with 1 draw.> Looks like we should be looking forward to a draw here. |
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| Oct-09-17 | | PhilFeeley: Can this be considered an upset?
Ding Liren 2772 CHN ½ : ½ IM Lodici Lorenzo ITA |
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| Oct-09-17 | | PhilFeeley: No live video commentary today? |
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Oct-09-17
 | | tamar: Mamedyarov looking like a boss against Nisipeanu, playing all over the board.
click for larger view |
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Oct-09-17
| | AylerKupp: <<Pedro Fernandez> But what is it actually the situation? May you please clarify this?> I’ll try. Three players have qualified for the Candidates: Karjakin (loser of the last WCC match, Aronian, and Ding Liren (finalists in the World Cup) The two top finishers in the Grand Prix will qualify. Current leaders with the most points are Mamedyanov (340.0 points) and Grischuk (336.4) points, who have both finished playing. Those in contention for at least the 2nd spot are Radjabov (241.4 points, needs 95.0 points to pass Grischuk, and must finish no worse than 3rd place in the Palma de Majorca GP (110.0 points), tied 1-8 place (96.3 points), tied 2-7 place (91.7 points), or tied 3-5 place (93.3 points). Ding Liren is on the running for 2nd place as well, but he has already qualified by reaching the finals of the World Cup so he’s not eligible to qualify via the Grand Prix. The last player that I think has a reasonable chance to qualify via the Grand Prix is Vachier-Lagrave (211.4 points). He needs 125.0 points to pass Grischuk for 2nd place and that means finishing in 1st place (170 points) or no worse than tied 1-4 place (127.5 place). Then the players with the 2 highest average ratings in the FIDE rating lists from Jan-2017 through Dec-2017 will qualify. As of Oct-2017 the 3 leading players are Caruana (2810.50 average), So (2810.10 average), and Kramnik (2807.50 points). Neither Caruana or So are scheduled to play any more rated games this year so if their current live ratings (which will become their ratings in the Nov-2017 rating list) are projected for Nov-2017 and Dec-2017 (2799 for Caruana and 2788 for So) their average ratings for 2017 will be 2808.58 for Caruana and 2606.42 for So. The last player with a reasonable chance to qualify by rating is Kramnik. His rating average through Oct-2017 is 2807.50 and he potentially has up to 5 more games to play in the ongoing European Cup Championship (he didn’t play in the first 2 rounds). His live rating is currently 2786 so to gain 2nd place in the average rating race he must gain 16 rating points in his remaining games to achieve a 2802 rating for Nov-2017 and Dec-2017. His average would then be 2806.58 to edge So by 0.16 rating points for 2nd place. Finally, the last player is a wildcard to be selected by the Candidates Tournament organizer (AGON) who must meet certain minimum requirements such as having at least a 2725 rating. Hard to predict who they might pick but the general opinion seems to be that Kramnik would be selected if he does not qualify for the Candidates by rating. So that’s what I think. If anyone has any corrections, anything to add, or just simply different opinions, please post them. |
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Oct-09-17
 | | beatgiant: If Vachier-Lagrave comes in third in the Grand Prix, there's an excellent case for giving him the wildcard spot. (And will that make everyone shut up about the bungled wording in the qualification rules?) |
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| Oct-09-17 | | Sokrates: It tells all about the complexity of the rules that it takes <AylerKupp> such a lengthy explanation just to draw the sketch of it. At the completion of this intricate knitwork I hope that all the obvious players will be in the candidates or in other words: that the system won't exclude a player who obviously belongs in the company. |
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| Oct-09-17 | | BOSTER: < AylerKupp> <anything to add>.
Maybe It looks very strange, but MVL can take part in Candidates not only via Grand Prix , but by rating list coming ahead So and Kramnik. |
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Oct-09-17
| | beatgiant: <BOSTER>
Just to make clear (as you probably already know), it's not enough for MVL to come ahead of So and Kramnik on one single rating list. The qualification criterion is <average rating for the past year>. Caruana, So and Kramnik are all ahead of him. |
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| Oct-09-17 | | BOSTER: <beatgiant >.The Q is:what would be average MVL rating after Palma D? |
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| Oct-09-17 | | ajile: <AylerKupp: <<Pedro Fernandez> But what is it actually the situation? May you please clarify this?>
I’ll try.>
Impressive analysis which probably took some time to calculate. Thanks. |
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Oct-09-17
| | beatgiant: <BOSTER>
By my estimation, MVL would have to gain about 60 rating points to catch up with So's average for the year, and I'm not sure if that's possible even if he wins all his games in the Grand Prix.But no doubt <AylerKupp> has an exact calculation at hand. |
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| Oct-09-17 | | nok: <If Vachier-Lagrave comes in third in the Grand Prix, there's an excellent case for giving him the wildcard spot.> I agree he should get the wildcard if Carlsen plays. |
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| Oct-09-17 | | cormier: rn 2 ... http://www.chessdom.com/european-ch... |
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| Oct-09-17 | | Pedro Fernandez: That's great <AK>, thank you. |
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