| European Club Cup (2017) |
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The 33rd European Chess Club Cup was a 7-round Swiss system team tournament held in the Avantgarde Hotel, Göynük, Antalya Province, Turkey, 8-14 October 2017. Time control: 90 minutes for 40 moves, then 30 more minutes till the end of the game, with a 30-second increment per move from move 1. Standings were determined by match points (2-1-0). Each match was played on six boards, and each team could have two reserve players. There were 36 teams and 255 players. Alkaloid (Macedonia) were the defending champions, while Globus (Russia) were the top seeds. Tournament director: Ozgur Solakoglu. Chief arbiter: Tugan Unal. Globus won with a score of 12/14 (+5 =2 -0), one point ahead of Alkaloid, Odlar Yurdu (Azerbaijan) and AVE Nový Bor (Czech Republic). Odlar Yurdu led by a point before the last round, but lost 2.5-3.5 in their final match against Nový Bor. Official site: http://euroclubcup2017.tsf.org.tr/
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| Result | Moves |
Year | Event/Locale | Opening |
| 1. H Steingrimsson vs Mamedyarov |
| 0-1 | 26 | 2017 | European Club Cup | C41 Philidor Defense |
| 2. Karjakin vs O Johannesson |
 | 1-0 | 25 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B48 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation |
| 3. S Bjornsson vs Giri |
 | 0-1 | 36 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B90 Sicilian, Najdorf |
| 4. Nepomniachtchi vs D Kjartansson |
| 1-0 | 20 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A18 English, Mikenas-Carls |
| 5. J Hardarson vs A Korobov |
| 0-1 | 24 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D43 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav |
| 6. Khismatullin vs J Halldorsson |
| 1-0 | 13 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A11 English, Caro-Kann Defensive System |
| 7. Ding Liren vs L Lodici |
| ½-½ | 29 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D35 Queen's Gambit Declined |
| 8. A Bertagnolli vs D Andreikin |
| 0-1 | 29 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B06 Robatsch |
| 9. Y Yu vs N Paltrinieri |
| 1-0 | 39 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A96 Dutch, Classical Variation |
| 10. A Barp vs Jakovenko |
| 0-1 | 50 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D93 Grunfeld, with Bf4 & e3 |
| 11. Kryvoruchko vs R Marsili |
| 1-0 | 41 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B36 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto |
| 12. F Seresin vs F Pancevski |
| 1-0 | 26 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A85 Dutch, with c4 & Nc3 |
| 13. O Sepp vs M Matlakov |
| 0-1 | 40 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A35 English, Symmetrical |
| 14. V Fedoseev vs E Ronka |
| 1-0 | 27 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A48 King's Indian |
| 15. T Kokkila vs Vitiugov |
| 0-1 | 64 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B28 Sicilian, O'Kelly Variation |
| 16. M Rodshtein vs H Koskinen |
| 1-0 | 37 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav |
| 17. H Salo vs I Khairullin |
| 0-1 | 58 | 2017 | European Club Cup | E47 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3 O-O 5.Bd3 |
| 18. A Goganov vs M Alava |
| 1-0 | 24 | 2017 | European Club Cup | E71 King's Indian, Makagonov System (5.h3) |
| 19. Harikrishna vs A Tari |
| 1-0 | 41 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B11 Caro-Kann, Two Knights, 3...Bg4 |
| 20. J Christiansen vs Navara |
| 0-1 | 39 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A09 Reti Opening |
| 21. M Ragger vs B Kvisvik |
| 1-0 | 41 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D02 Queen's Pawn Game |
| 22. O B Vea vs Sasikiran |
| 0-1 | 40 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B20 Sicilian |
| 23. V Laznicka vs A Bryn |
| 1-0 | 44 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B12 Caro-Kann Defense |
| 24. M Danielsen vs M Bartel |
| 0-1 | 17 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4 |
| 25. D Abbas vs E Inarkiev |
| 0-1 | 31 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation |
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Oct-09-17
 | | AylerKupp: <<beatgiant> And will that make everyone shut up about the bungled wording in the qualification rules?)> Probably not because if Vachier-Lagrave comes in 3rd in the Grand Prix then, if Carlsen is considered to have qualified and withdrawn/refused to participate, then Vachier-Lagrave is <guaranteed> a place in the Candidates Tournament. Whereas being selected as a wildcard is just a guess. If you were him, would you rather be guaranteed a place in the Candidates Tournament or take a chance in being selected as the wildcard? |
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Oct-09-17
| | AylerKupp: <<BOSTER> Maybe It looks very strange, but MVL can take part in Candidates not only via Grand Prix , but by rating list coming ahead So and Kramnik.> Theoretically true, but let’s do the math and see what it will take: a. MVL’s current live rating is 2794. He would need to gain 62 rating points (not bloody likely but a very good guess by <beatgiant>) to tie So for 2nd highest average rating (excluding Carlsen, of course). Then MVL would get the 2nd qualification by rating because the tiebreaker is the player who has played the greater number of games, and MVL would have played 120 vs. So’s 87. b. What would it take for MVL to gain 62 rating points? Using the live ratings for those rated above 2700 and the FIDE rating list for Oct-2017 for those rated below 2700 (there’s only 3 of those), I get an average rating of 2728. But this would not be the actual average rating of MVL’s opponents since the Grand Prix is sort of a Swiss so MVL’s opponents are not yet known. But 2728 is probably a reasonable approximation of the average rating of MVL’s opponents so that represents an average rating difference of +66 points. And with an average +66 rating point advantage even if MVL were to score 9.0/9 he would only gain 37 rating points and his average rating for 2017 would be 2802.42, far less than necessary to overtake So. So, no, MVL does not have even a theoretical chance to qualify by rating based on his results in the Palma de Majorca Grand Prix. |
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Oct-09-17
| | AylerKupp: <<beatgiant> But no doubt <AylerKupp> has an exact calculation at hand.> Well, not exact but probably close enough. :-) |
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Oct-09-17
| | AylerKupp: <<ajile> Impressive analysis which probably took some time to calculate.> Thanks, but I had most of the information already so it didn't take all that long. Besides, by now I’m “somewhat” familiar with the Candidates Tournament qualification rules and regulations. :-) |
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| Oct-10-17 | | PhilFeeley: Board pairing, round 3:
GM Wojtaszek, Radoslaw 2737 - GM Kramnik, Vladimir 2794 |
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| Oct-10-17 | | cplyakap: Kramnik should win and accumulate +4,2 ELO. |
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| Oct-10-17 | | SometimesGood: Vlad is a man; plays black against Rado. |
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| Oct-10-17 | | cormier: rn 3 ... http://www.chessdom.com/european-ch... |
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| Oct-10-17 | | BOSTER: <cplyakar><Kramnik accumulate 4,2 points ELO>.
Sweet illusion. |
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Oct-10-17
| | AylerKupp: Kramnik drew, so that will not help his chances to qualify for the Candidates by rating. I am puzzled by his choice of openings, the Semi-Tarrasch is good for a difficult draw at best. I'm not suggesting that he should throw all caution to the winds, but somewhere between the Semi-Tarrasch and an Albin Countergambit there are many openings which provide some winning chances for Black with reasonable risk, particularly if your opponent stumbles. Then again, maybe he's still tired from the Isle of Man and has decided to bow to the inevitable and try to qualify for the Candidates as a wildcard. |
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| Oct-10-17 | | jphamlore: Like I have said, the Russians in chess don't help each other, they tear each other down. One would almost think they'd rather see Carlsen as champ than any of them. Fedoseev's win over Kramnik at Dortmund will keep Kramnik from getting a spot in Candidates by rating. But then if the wildcard spot goes to Kramnik, the winner of the Russian Superfinal won't be the wildcard, so Fedoseev will have ended his best shot at Candidates. No one will give Fedoseev any invites to the very top events. His ceiling is Dortmund. He'll go back to university in a couple of years and that will be that. He will have basically ended his chess career by winning a game his opponent Kramnik forced him to win by Kramnik playing like a desperado. Such is how Russian chess operates these days. |
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| Oct-10-17 | | not not: If russians help each other, they "fixed the world of chess" If they beat each other, they "tear each other down" Really?
Why should he not have beaten Kramnik? Would Karpov or Kasparov threw game away to anybody? He got a win, so he can put it in his memorable games collection. And rightly so |
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| Oct-10-17 | | whiteshark: <Hatay Büyükşehir Belediyesi Spor Kulübü> ftw Will they get a single board point at all? |
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| Oct-10-17 | | PhilFeeley: <whiteshark> Likely not. |
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| Oct-11-17 | | jphamlore: <not not> I said that Fedoseev couldn't avoid beating Kramnik because Kramnik played like a desperado. |
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| Oct-11-17 | | paavoh: <Fedoseev's win over Kramnik at Dortmund will keep Kramnik from getting a spot in Candidates by rating> Surely it was not that straightforward, hinging on a single game. Kramnik failed to win or lost to even lower-ranking players than Fedoseev, costing more rating points than this particular game. |
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| Oct-11-17 | | cplyakap: Kramnik's chance for qualifying Candidates 2018 via rating spot is mathematically over. There is no event which effect November and/or December rating lists anymore. In the best possibility, he will win next three rounds, Kramnik still won't be manage to reach 2801.5 live rating, thus Wesley So will keep his rating spot. Congratz Wesley So! |
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| Oct-11-17 | | cormier: rn 4 ... http://www.chessdom.com/european-ch... |
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| Oct-11-17 | | PhilFeeley: Aslan, Lina 1535 - Delaney, Killian 2202 - 1 - 0 Looks like we were wrong <Whiteshark>. Black must have had a brain aneurism. He had 56 minutes on the clock and put his rook into a simple fork with his king. |
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Oct-11-17
| | AylerKupp: <paavoh> Yes, things are never that straightforward. Even his loss to Tarjan in the World Cup, rated almost 400 points lower than him, caused him to be placed in lower scoring groups and paired against weaker opponents, no doubt helping him win his last 4 games and recover some rating points. Still, if you're trying to increase your rating, losing games is not the way to do it! |
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Oct-11-17
| | AylerKupp: An irrelevant update to forestall a possible question.. I calculated above the most rating points that Vachier-Lagrave would earn if he scored 9/9 in the Palma de Majorca Grand Prix when he faced opponents with the average rating of all the participants. I concluded that he would gain 37 rating points, nowhere near the 62 rating points he would need to overcome So's lead in the race to qualify by rating. But, this being a theoretical discussion and all, on the flight home I wondered how many rating points he would gain if he scored 9/9 when facing the players with the 9 highest ratings (other than himself, of course). The answer is "only" 40 points which would still leave him short of the 62 points needed to overcome So's lead. And, with Kramnik scoring only a draw in his one game in the European Cup Championship with only a maximum of 3 games remaining, it looks like So's lead for 2nd highest average rating in 2017 and qualification for the Candidates on that basis is secure. Unless, of course, we bring up the Carlsen qualification thing. :-) |
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| Oct-11-17 | | whiteshark: <PhilFeeley: Aslan, Lina 1535 - Delaney, Killian 2202 - 1 - 0> Yeah, I followed the underdogs on chess24.com. The bottom line is that ♙c4 was poisoned. ;) |
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| Oct-12-17 | | Sokrates: Dear <AylerKupp>, Does this relevant "irrelevant update" lead to any conclusion with regards to MVL? "Theoretical discussions" including 9/9 results and Carlsen getting scizophrenic don't produce clarity in my mind. I just want to learn whether MVL will become a participant or not. And if a clear yes or no is impossible, then please an assessment with a percentage. Thank you in advance, you wizard of calculations! :-) |
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| Oct-12-17 | | rokko: What makes the discussion even less relevant is that a 9/9 result for MVL would make him win the Grand Prix and qualify from the Grand Prix (ahead of rating IIRC).
Just as a reminder: if he is clear second he is ahead of Mamedyarov. If he shares second/third he has as many points as Grishuk (if he has 5.5, the number of Blacks may decide). As for the ECC: this really has become an Eastern European event - many top players but much less variety than last time. |
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| Oct-12-17 | | BOSTER: < rokko> is right.
With the result 9/9 MVL'll forget any rating list.He is in Candidates.
ECC is not very popular. |
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