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This qualification tournament for the 1965 Candidates matches was held 20 May - 21 June in the building of the GAK (Social Security Organization) in Amsterdam. The purpose was to select a challenger for ... [more]
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Player: Alberto Foguelman
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| Result | Moves |
Year | Event/Locale | Opening |
| 1. Rossetto vs Foguelman |
| ½-½ | 30 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | D91 Grunfeld, 5.Bg5 |
| 2. Foguelman vs Larsen |
  | 0-1 | 40 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | D59 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tartakower |
| 3. O Quinones Carrillo vs Foguelman |
| 1-0 | 50 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | B18 Caro-Kann, Classical |
| 4. Foguelman vs K Darga |
| ½-½ | 38 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | A60 Benoni Defense |
| 5. Tringov vs Foguelman |
| ½-½ | 53 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | B11 Caro-Kann, Two Knights, 3...Bg4 |
| 6. Foguelman vs Bronstein |
| 0-1 | 21 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | D25 Queen's Gambit Accepted |
| 7. Tal vs Foguelman |
| 1-0 | 50 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | B18 Caro-Kann, Classical |
| 8. Foguelman vs Stein |
| ½-½ | 32 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | A57 Benko Gambit |
| 9. Spassky vs Foguelman |
| 1-0 | 21 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | B18 Caro-Kann, Classical |
| 10. Foguelman vs Smyslov |
| ½-½ | 40 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | D25 Queen's Gambit Accepted |
| 11. Pachman vs Foguelman |
| 1-0 | 39 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | E27 Nimzo-Indian, Samisch Variation |
| 12. Portisch vs Foguelman |
| 1-0 | 41 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | E61 King's Indian |
| 13. Foguelman vs Gligoric |
| ½-½ | 63 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | E62 King's Indian, Fianchetto |
| 14. Y Porat vs Foguelman |
| 0-1 | 54 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | E60 King's Indian Defense |
| 15. Foguelman vs F J Perez Perez |
| 1-0 | 31 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | C72 Ruy Lopez, Modern Steinitz Defense, 5.O-O |
| 16. Benko vs Foguelman |
| 0-1 | 59 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | C05 French, Tarrasch |
| 17. Foguelman vs B Berger |
| 0-1 | 40 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | E04 Catalan, Open, 5.Nf3 |
| 18. I Bilek vs Foguelman |
| 1-0 | 44 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | C00 French Defense |
| 19. Foguelman vs Lengyel |
| ½-½ | 17 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | B43 Sicilian, Kan, 5.Nc3 |
| 20. Reshevsky vs Foguelman |
| ½-½ | 30 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | D81 Grunfeld, Russian Variation |
| 21. Foguelman vs Evans |
| 0-1 | 42 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | A57 Benko Gambit |
| 22. Z Vranesic vs Foguelman |
| 0-1 | 20 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | D82 Grunfeld, 4.Bf4 |
| 23. Foguelman vs Ivkov |
| 0-1 | 35 | 1964 | Amsterdam Interzonal | E23 Nimzo-Indian, Spielmann |
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| Jan-22-15 | | Petrosianic: <zanzibar>: <Are you sure the 64 Soviet Ch wasn't a Zonal in disguise?> In ordinary cycles, both the US and Soviet championships served as a zonal every 3rd year. But for some reason there was a separate Soviet Zonal that year. |
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Jan-22-15
 | | perfidious: <In ordinary cycles, both the US and Soviet championships served as a zonal every 3rd year....> As was also the case in Canada; through the 1984 championship, it was held <only> in zonal years. <....But for some reason there was a separate Soviet Zonal that year.> Don't recall why, but the whole business smacked of typical behind-the-scenes political manoeuvring in Mother Russia; to wit, Smyslov's participation. |
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| Jan-22-15 | | Petrosianic: Maybe, but Smyslov didn't play in the Zonal. Not sure how he got into the Interzonal, but he certainly justified the faith placed in him. I know there had been a lot of grumbling worldwide about his omission from the previous cycle, with people claiming he could have given Pawn and Move to the qualifiers from the Southeast Asian Zonal. |
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| Jan-22-15 | | Petrosianic: Interestingly, all of the post-war world champions, with the exception of Botvinnik, either won or tied for first in an Interzonal at some point. |
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Jan-22-15
| | perfidious: <Petrosianic> Most amusing--I had never heard the pawn and move bit till now. And some posters have wondered how old So-and-So got his IM title in the distant past...... The good old two-thirds rule had its uses. |
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Jan-22-15
 | | Fusilli: <Petrosianic: ... he could have given Pawn and Move to the qualifiers from the Southeast Asian Zonal.> Probably, but I always thought the inclusion of players from many places was good for the diffusion of chess. Besides, the super GMs had to compete not only at fighting each other but at being effective killing the cannon fodder. And occasionally, there would be an upset or two that made things more interesting. As an example, in the Stockholm Interzonal (1962), both Geller and Korchnoi lost to Cuellar. |
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| Jan-22-15 | | Petrosianic: Well, that was the idea, yes. To have all the zones represented. It was always an imperfect solution, though. The idea of a recent ex-world champion being out of the picture seems wrong. They did make improvements to the system, though. Like in the '65 and '68 cycle, they had an 8th candidates match between the two semifinal losers, to see which one would get a seat in the next Interzonal. Later on, all of the Candidates in one cycle would automatically be in the next Interzonal. |
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| Jan-22-15 | | Olavi: As for Smyslov's Place in the Interzonal (he should have been the eight player in the zonal), Korchnoi in <Chess is my life>: "Smyslov put in an application to the Federation, requesting that he be allowed to have one of the four qualifying places (...) The Federation rejected the claim. He then turned to his friends with access to the Government and leading Party Organs. From there came an order which was unconditionally accepted by the USSR Sports Committee, and the head of the Chess Federation (Rodionov) was reprimanded.
(...) chess followers will now be able to guess why, at the Biel Interzonal tournament in 1976, Kuzmin was replaced By Smyslov." As for me, the origins of his place in the 1982 Las Palmas Interzonal is unclear. |
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Jan-22-15
| | perfidious: That qualifies as 'internal manoeuvring', right enough! Ol' Vasily Vasilyevich had some juice, it would seem. |
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| Jan-22-15 | | Petrosianic: <As for me, the origins of his place in the 1982 Las Palmas Interzonal is unclear.> Yeah, that's a mystery. He hadn't played in the 1981 Soviet Championship, or for several years before that. His Federation must have exercised their discretion, similar to the way Fischer got in, to try to get their best players in. Smyslov usually did very well in Interzonals, and finished only a half point out of the money in 1970, 1973 and 1976, and then qualified in 1982. |
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| Jan-22-15 | | Olavi: I forgot to mention that there was a separate zonal in 1982. No Smyslov there.
http://www.chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/... |
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| Jan-22-15 | | Petrosianic: I didn't know about that one. And Yusupov, Psakhis and Tukmakov, the top three finishers did play in the Interzonals. I wondered why I didn't have the 1981 Soviet Championship marked as a Zonal, even though it seemed like it ought to be. For that matter, 1975, and 1978 don't show as Zonals either. An omission, or were there separate zonals those years too? |
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| Jan-22-15 | | Olavi: <And Yusupov, Psakhis and Tukmakov, the top three finishers did play in the Interzonals.> 4th Geller too. http://www.chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/... http://www.chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/... In 1985 the championship was again a zonal. |
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| Jan-23-15 | | zanzibar: Thanks <Benzol> and everyone. This will take me a little while to go through. As for 1964, I think the <Tournament of Seven> was also to the benefit of Korchnoi, who was "hot" at about that time. I think the officials wanted to give him a second chance to qualify. Smyslov was the big-gun driving the bus through, and the <CG> mention of the <Tournament of Seven> should mention him, which I don't think it does. |
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| Jan-24-15 | | Howard: Regarding Perfidious' comment about not having heard the ol' "pawn and move" story, that was mentioned in Al Horowitz' book on the history of the world championship---came out around the time of the Fischer-Spassky match. More specifically, the book said that many experts had pointed out that Spassky, Bronstein, and Smyslov (in other words, not just Smyslov) could have given pawn-and-move odds to the eastern Asian qualifiers to the Stockholm interzonal, in 1962, and still beaten 'em ! But none of these greats made it into the 1962 event, as most of us know. |
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| Jan-24-15 | | Howard: Regarding Perfidious' comment about not having heard the ol' "pawn and move" story, that was mentioned in Al Horowitz' book on the history of the world championship---came out around the time of the Fischer-Spassky match. More specifically, the book said that many experts had pointed out that Spassky, Bronstein, and Smyslov (in other words, not just Smyslov) could have given pawn-and-move odds to the eastern Asian qualifiers to the Stockholm interzonal, in 1962, and still beaten 'em ! But none of these greats made it into the 1962 event, as most of us know. Also, as far as Smyslov's unexplained appearance in the 1982 Las Palmas interzonal...that wasn't the first time he made such an appearance. In the 1976 interzonal in Biel, Kuzmin was supposed to be in that--Chess Life and Review had run a list a few months in advance of all the participants. But at the tournament, Smyslov appeared in his place. As CL and R put it, "no explanation was given" for the last-minute change. |
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Jan-25-15
| | perfidious: < Howard: Regarding Perfidious' comment about not having heard the ol' "pawn and move" story, that was mentioned in Al Horowitz' book on the history of the world championship---came out around the time of the Fischer-Spassky match.> Dang it, ya mean Ah don't remember everthang?
In all seriousness, I have a copy of that book in mothballs and first read it many years ago, but obviously forgot that charming little bit. |
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Oct-23-15
 | | Everett: So the claims that Smyslov was favored by the authorities seem to have some validity. I wonder how far back this goes... |
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| Feb-19-16 | | A.T PhoneHome: Spassky's quiver was filled and the arrows were on-point in this tournament if one likes puns. His playing here was inspirational, he was like a new man and I attest to that. |
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May-08-16
| | Everett: Bronstein had a very good tournament, and could have had things go differently if he finished some great positions; one vs Tringov, another vs Benko Benko vs Bronstein, 1964 And his lone loss, vs. Larsen, could have been drawn in many ways. One for the ages, that one. |
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Aug-08-16
 | | keypusher: I was reminded of the limit on the number of Soviet participants by this story from the Olympics: <[Gabby] Douglas will be kept out of the final because gymnastics only allows two gymnasts per country to compete in the final of any event. So even though Douglas is arguably one of the three best all-around gymnasts in the world, she is being left out because two Americans, Simone Biles and Aly Raisman, finished first and second, respectively.> http://www.businessinsider.com/gabb... |
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Aug-08-16
| | perfidious: <keypusher> There was no keeping 'Grandma' out, as Raisman is known to her teammates. |
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| Jan-26-18 | | ughaibu: There are a lot of posts about how Smyslov got in but I can't see any about how Tal did. Also, a rule limiting the number of Soviets who can qualify for the candidates, after the candidates were changed from a tournament to matches, is just bananas. |
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Apr-27-20
| | Everett: So, Ivkov and Portisch advance, instead of Bronstein and Stein, due to Chess affirmative action. Sad |
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| Mar-30-21 | | Nosnibor: Out of the 23 rounds in this event Larsen held or shared first place .Only in rounds 13-15 and 20 did he fall below this. Whereas Tal only shared first place twice throughout. |
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