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King's Indian Defense (E60)
1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6

Number of games in database: 4597
Years covered: 1914 to 2019
Overall record:
   White wins 36.7%
   Black wins 25.2%
   Draws 38.2%

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PRACTITIONERS
With the White Pieces With the Black Pieces
Alexander Baburin  36 games
Jan Hein Donner  36 games
Predrag Nikolic  26 games
Peter Svidler  34 games
John Nunn  25 games
Ilya Smirin  24 games
NOTABLE GAMES [what is this?]
White Wins Black Wins
Euwe vs Najdorf, 1953
Botvinnik vs Bronstein, 1951
Kasparov vs Nunn, 1986
Robert E Byrne vs Fischer, 1963
L Stumpers vs Euwe, 1946
Botvinnik vs Smyslov, 1954
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 page 1 of 184; games 1-25 of 4,597  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. A E Post vs J Mieses 1-0231914MannheimE60 King's Indian Defense
2. Saemisch vs Reti 0-1331922Teplitz-SchönauE60 King's Indian Defense
3. Loman vs Euwe 0-1621923SSS CupE60 King's Indian Defense
4. Colle vs Koltanowski 0-1711923BEL-chE60 King's Indian Defense
5. Bogoljubov vs Tarrasch 1-0281923KarlsbadE60 King's Indian Defense
6. Gruenfeld vs Yates  ½-½321923KarlsbadE60 King's Indian Defense
7. A Pokorny vs Gruenfeld  0-1541923Maehrisch-OstrauE60 King's Indian Defense
8. Gruenfeld vs Euwe  ½-½541923Maehrisch-OstrauE60 King's Indian Defense
9. M Walter vs Hromadka  ½-½521923Maehrisch-OstrauE60 King's Indian Defense
10. Euwe vs Yates 1-0441923ScheveningenE60 King's Indian Defense
11. Alekhine vs E T Jesty 1-0411923BCF Major OpenE60 King's Indian Defense
12. Alekhine vs J H Morrison 1-0281923Simul, 32bE60 King's Indian Defense
13. Gruenfeld vs Reti  ½-½351923ViennaE60 King's Indian Defense
14. G Andreev vs Botvinnik 0-1461924LeningradE60 King's Indian Defense
15. G Fontein vs Euwe  0-1311924NED-chE60 King's Indian Defense
16. Colle vs Gruenfeld 0-1451924MeranoE60 King's Indian Defense
17. Marshall vs Reti ½-½501924New YorkE60 King's Indian Defense
18. Colle vs Euwe 1-0361924MatchE60 King's Indian Defense
19. Kupchik vs Bogoljubov  ½-½531924Bogoljubov-Kupchik MatchE60 King's Indian Defense
20. V Vukovic vs S Gruber  1-0611924GyorE60 King's Indian Defense
21. A Vajda vs E Steiner  1-0301924GyorE60 King's Indian Defense
22. Rubinstein vs O C Mueller  1-0351924BCF Major OpenE60 King's Indian Defense
23. Jacques Davidson vs Euwe  0-1561924MatchE60 King's Indian Defense
24. Kmoch vs L Steiner 1-0251925DebrecenE60 King's Indian Defense
25. S B Gotthilf vs Bogoljubov  ½-½441925USSR ChampionshipE60 King's Indian Defense
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Mar-04-09  chessman95: <KingG> Against e4 I almost always play the Sicilian. Against d4 I play Nizmoindian against Nc3 and Queen's Indian against Nf3. Against the Enlish I play ...e5. When I said that everyone knows the indian theory, I didn't have a specific move in mind, I was just saying that most people are familiar with the ideas and main lines of most indian openings, so they're not ideal for a surprise anymore.
Apr-28-09  returnoftheking: Can someone explain to me why


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is so much less popular than variants with e5?

Variants with Bg4 seem to lead to ok positions for black very easily.

Apr-29-09  SimonWebbsTiger: I presume returnoftheking it has a lot to do with the resulting positions. White, supposedly, can get an edge far more easily after 6...c5 and not everyone likes the Knight on the edge after 7. o-o Nc6 8. d5 Na5. Also, after say 7. d5 , White isn't obliged to play c:d5 (e:d5 instead) when Black seeks play by ...e6 and capture on d5.

Relatively speaking, there is lesser dynamism in the Black set up since White isn't about to face a King Side attack any time soon!

Of course, if you enjoy those positions you should play them. It avoids the monster analysis after the traditional ...e5 advance. It's a practical solution and I am sure the edge white does get doesn't matter too much for us mere mortals. :-)

Apr-29-09  returnoftheking: TY, interesting opinion. But besides all the drawbacks it has one big pro: the bishop diagonal is notclosed. If white 0-0 Nc6 is yugoslav variation I think (with knight on the rim) but black could also play cxd4 with a decent position. Almost a bit hedgehog like. Or Bg4, trading bishop and Nd7 with enough space for black's remaining pieces.
Jun-27-09  WhiteRook48: I don't think 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 is the KID yet since it's transpositional
Jul-07-09  WhiteRook48: so 3. f4. Confused yet?
Jul-28-09  WhiteRook48: or maybe even 3 Bg5?!?!
Aug-18-09  parisattack: <chessman95: Maybe you're right. I remember reading it in an opening book I got on Indian Games, so I just assumed it was right. By the way, I'm looking for a good surprise weapon against 1.d4. I can't seem to find any in the Indian Games, because everyone knows that theory now. And the Dutch is too well known as well, although I do use it. Is the Polish Defense a sound opening? I can't find any good analysis on it, but I was considering starting to play it.>

There are a couple of books on the Polish Defense - and the related Owen's. I've played it and like it. Black can get positions that are very similar to other openings such as a Kan Sicilian, a Classical French. It has two features I like in a defense - flexibility and the possiblity of play on either/both wings.

The Symmetrical Defense and the Albin are also worth a look-see.

Sep-25-09
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  James Demery: Why is the winning% so low in this defense? Fischer swore by this defense and had excellent results with it. Has this defense been busted or just gone out of style?
Sep-25-09  Marmot PFL: I'm not sure its results are worse than most defenses.
Sep-25-09  Marmot PFL: <parisattack> I play 1 d4 Nf6 2 Nf3 b5 for black, but 1 d4 b5 2 e4 looks tougher to meet.
Jul-15-10  rapidcitychess: <JD> This is when Black (or white) doesn't play KID or Grunfeld.
Jul-25-10  freakclub: Playing the black pieces, and employing the king's indian defense, I've been losing some games lately against the h4 attack.

The variation goes like this: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h4!

And white proceeds with Be2, g4, h5, etc.

Does anyone know the name of this variation, and what is the most effective defense against it?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Jul-26-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Chessical: <Freakclub> I have not seen this idea before, but I do not believe that it should be too dangerous. For example:

1. d4 g6 2. c4 Bg7 3. Nc3 d6 <4. h4> Nf6 5. e4 O-O 6. h5 Nxh5 7. Be2 Nf6 8. Be3 (<8. Nf3> c5 9. d5 a6) <8...c5> 9. d5 b5 10. cxb5 a6 11. bxa6 Bxa6 and Black is better.

I do not think that the radical <7. Rxh5!?> works <7...gxh5> 8. Qxh5 Nc6 9. Nf3 e5 (this seems better than <9... Nxd4> 10. Nxd4 Bxd4 11. Bh6 Re8 12. O-O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 e5)

Jul-27-10  freakclub: Hi Chessical; I have found some games in the database with white playing Be2 and h4, e.g. Kapu vs. Szabo (1964) which went: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Be2 0-0 6.h4 c5 7.d5 e6 8.h5 exd5 9.hxg6 fxg6 10.cxd5 Qe7 11.Bg5 a6 12.a4 Nbd7 13.f4 Rb8 14.Qd3 b5! etc.

Now if White plays 8.g4 (instead of 8.h5), then play should probably continue 8...exd5 9.cxd5. But here now is the crucial point. How should black proceed?

If 9...Re8 or 9...Qe7, then white plays 10. f3. Sure White has a somewhat over-extended pawn structure but how should black exploit this? Do you see any good strategy for black?

I don't think 10...h5 works, because after 11.g5 Black's position is somewhat cramped.

Jul-30-10
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  Chessical: <freakclub> 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Be2 O-O 6. h4 c5 7. d5 e6; and now:

<8. g4> exd5 9. cxd5 Qe7 10. f3


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I believe that there are two reasonable continuations for Black:

<10... h5> 11. g5 Nfd7 12. Be3 f5 13. gxf6 Bxf6

or:

<10... Bxg4!?> 11. fxg4 Nxe4 12. Nxe4 Qxe4 13. Nf3 Re8 14. Kf2 Qxg4 15. h5 Nd7, with three pawns for the piece.

Jul-30-10  freakclub: Chessical; Thanks a lot! I shall be looking forward to employing 10...Bxg4! in actual play, as it also puts White into a sort of psychological disadvantage in this position. :-)
Mar-12-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Opening of the Day:
King's Indian
1.d4 ♘f6 2.c4 g6 3.♘c3 ♗g7
Aug-05-11  bronkenstein: Excellent compilation of tactical themes for black in King`s Indian , credits to Eric Schiller : http://www.ericschiller.com/pdf/Kin...
Sep-15-12  zoren: Kings Indian being pasted (crushed) in 2012, anyone know whats happening?! Even Radjabov is struggling with it.
Sep-15-12  SimonWebbsTiger: @<zoren>

the KID has always been a risky opening. After all, black gives white so much space with the hope his position can unfurl like a spring, with dreadful effects. As it stands 9.b4 in the Classical is the major headache for the KID player. Look at Kramnik's win versus Grischuk for a KID horror story and, saying that, wonderful play by Kramnik.

It's typical of opening theory, though. Strong ideas and resources are found for white which haven't yet found an antidote from black. They will come. Then, as "they" say, the ball will be back in white's court.

Mar-09-15
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  Ron: Here is a line in the King's Indian:
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2 O-O 5. Nc3 c6 6. e4 d6 7. Nge2

Using chesslab's database, here are the stats for this position. Games are from 1991 to the present, all ratings:

White won 56%
Black won 17%
Draw 27%

Mar-18-15  Conrad93: Besides Radjabov, who are the best KID players of today?
Mar-18-15  Conrad93: <Here is a line in the King's Indian: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2 O-O 5. Nc3 c6 6. e4 d6 7. Nge2 Using chesslab's database, here are the stats for this position. Games are from 1991 to the present, all ratings:

White won 56%
Black won 17%
Draw 27%>

Out of how many games?

Mar-18-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Ron: <Conrad93: <Here is a line in the King's Indian: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2 O-O 5. Nc3 c6 6. e4 d6 7. Nge2 Using chesslab's database, here are the stats for this position. Games are from 1991 to the present, all ratings: White won 56%
Black won 17%
Draw 27%>

Out of how many games?>

Chess lab gives 141 games.

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