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Jul-22-14
 | | FSR: <<jhelix70: << Instant Rapport.>>
Best...Pun...Ever :-) >
mcaskin: Outstanding pun, FSR.>
Thanks! |
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Jul-22-14
 | | Annie K.: <FSR> I'll third that, great pun. Too bad the game is probably too short to be used for GotD, unless maybe some April 1, but you still get full marks for that. :) <Laci> Good point! |
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Jul-22-14
 | | tamar: Mate in 5 |
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| Jul-22-14 | | SpaceRunner: Rogers was late 3 minutes for the game and probably wanted to save som time in the opening. Apparantly he forgot to look for the opponents move ;-) |
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Jul-22-14
 | | Benzol: A right rogering. And no that's not a pun!
:) |
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| Jul-22-14 | | diceman: Haven't seen a Caro that bad since Kasparov and Deep Blue. |
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| Jul-23-14 | | team kids can win: <Haven't seen a Caro that bad since Kasparov and Deep Blue.> Black could have played <1.e4 c6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Qe2 d4> which makes <3.Qe2> dubious for White. Rapport probably felt he could afford to play a weak opening against someone he outranked by almost 700 Elo. If play went <1.e4 c6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Qe2 d4 4.Nb1 e5 5.Nf3 Bd6 6.Qd1> then White's second and third moves were already worse than a waste of tempo...so this isn't likely to become a popular variation. |
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Jul-23-14
 | | alexmagnus: Didn't Alekhine once win a game with a similar checkmate? His opponent was Moser or Moner.... |
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| Jul-23-14 | | BalaKKa: I gave exactly this checkmate on a training against one of my weak teammate, rated about 1600. But i really don't understand a 2000 player how the hell can fall into this cheap trick? Especially, if u are a caro-can player you should know whites idea behind Qe2... |
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| Jul-23-14 | | hedgeh0g: Not to mention the fact that 3.Qe2?! is a poor move. The obvious reply 3...d4 misplaces White's pieces and, against standard opposition, Black would probably have gone for that continuation. Too much respect for his opponent meant Black felt compelled to force his way into familiar territory and he paid the price. |
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| Jul-23-14 | | diagonal: < FSR > @ this mate on move five < Instant Rapport > Really, Pun of the Year! |
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| Jul-23-14 | | Pulo y Gata: A game for patzerity. |
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| Jul-23-14 | | diceman: Maybe Rogers thought Rappport would "see" the pinned king pawn
and play nf6+????.
Overlooking both knights and the g pawn could capture. |
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Jul-23-14
 | | Sally Simpson: Hi Alex,
It was Alekhine v four amateurs, Palma de Mallorca, 1935 1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. Nc3 dxe4
4. Nxe4 Nd7
5. Qe2 Ngf6
click for larger view6. Nd6 Mate.
My OTB DB has 20+ players falling for this 6 move mate. This site has two of them. F Vogt vs H Lehmann, 1947
and
C R Gurnhill vs W H Banks, 1962
Incredibly I have two OTB games where White failed to see 6. Nd6 Mate. White went on to win one, Black won the other! |
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| Jul-23-14 | | mandy64: Give Rogers a break! 4..Nd7 was an overshight, it does NOT mean that he is a weak, overrated player. @#$% happens, we are humans, not computers. Even Karpov could lose in 12 moves due to a simple double attack pattern.
Christiansen vs Karpov, 1993 |
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Jul-23-14
| | FSR: <mandy64> Anand lasted just one move longer than Rogers in A Zapata vs Anand, 1988. And an IM known for his tactical gifts got mated on move 9 in Yermolinsky vs E Tate, 2001. |
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Jul-23-14
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Mandy,
Me and the lads are fitting the profile that's all.
Kibitzer: Weaker player who guffaws at stronger players mistakes. And Rogers is not getting a break. He is a Caro Kann player. Caro Kann players do not deserve breaks. And anyway why should he? Karpov never.
We all blunder and here it is his turn. He will get over it. His pals will be making merry telling him to try and make it to move 10 in the next game. We did not make the moves up and he missed a mate in one. Of course it's an oversight, I posted two very similiar finishes. It can happen on move 5 or 55. I once got mated as Black with a Qxf7 mate in 6 moves. (OK that was blitz) But in a serious OTB final, graded over 2000, where I played some good chess to get to that final, in a winning position I left a simple one move back rank checkmate on. (My opponent was that shocked he could not make the move. He looked at me all puzzled like and held up his hands. I resigned.) Hmmmm.....maybe he won't get over it, I'm still not over my one and that was 30+ years ago. |
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Jul-23-14
| | FSR: <hedgeh0g> I too am un-wowed by White's position after 3...d4. Houdini 3 says that Black is around .2 ahead after 4.Nd1 e5. But FWIW White has done well from that position (over 58%) with a King's Indian-type setup. Semen leads the way: http://www.365chess.com/search_resu... No doubt Rapport figured that 3.Qe2 would confuse his opponent and get him out of book. He certainly succeeded in those objectives. |
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Jul-23-14
 | | perfidious: <Sally S: But in a serious OTB final, graded over 2000, where I played some good chess to get to that final, in a winning position I left a simple one move back rank checkmate on.> My first win against a GM was in a blitz game with Reynaldo Vera, in which he played a neat queen sacrifice to gain a winning position, then blundered into a simple mate. Nasty business. |
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| Jul-23-14 | | zanzibar: <perfidious> You never forget your first! |
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| Jul-24-14 | | Pulo y Gata: You look at the rating, but this is simply patzer's play for Black. No other honest way to call it. Of course the black player could play better on a better day, but on this game he was a patzer. |
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| Jul-24-14 | | Mr. V: Rapport's brilliant opening preparation wins again. |
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Jul-24-14
| | perfidious: <zanzibar> True, nor the two who came afterwards, either. |
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| Jul-26-14 | | Fisticuffs: for even as low of an elo of 2000 this is just disgusting to see |
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Jul-26-14
| | perfidious: The man blundered.
Get over it. |
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