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| Dec-01-16 | | CaringLuv: Chanco, I think your analyses with 49...Bf8 is accurate. I don't think there is a more accurate line. Well done! |
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| Dec-01-16 | | Timi: 50. Qh6 is definitely not a Monday Puzzle |
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| Dec-01-16 | | Knight13: <acirce> Think Carlsen actually know of that specific game? |
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| Dec-01-16 | | Olsonist: <rajaonn> the Queen sac is awesome and no, it isn't obvious. One of the commentators (GM Huschenbeth) honestly said, During the stream, I thought White has to go Rg5 overlooking Ra1, White is just lost, but Carlsen had all figured it out and he finished this game in style. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msv...
Everything is obvious after the fact. |
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| Dec-01-16 | | ForkedAgain: It would have been a standard puzzle in one of Reinfeld's puzzle books. And not to denigrate it. To elevate it. |
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| Dec-01-16 | | Grbasowski: Carl-sen! Carl-sen! |
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| Dec-01-16 | | TheSlid: <Think Carlsen actually know of that specific game?> Pattern recognition is not related to a specific game, I guess. It is quite possible that the theme is a recognised one, but maybe after all of your now 25 or 26 years you should be asking whether Carlsen and Popov saw the the same source pattern? Both seemed to recognise it some moves in advance. |
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| Dec-01-16 | | TheSlid: <acirce> Astute comment as ever. Hope you are well and enjoying life outside of chess. My Best Regards
Sandy |
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Dec-01-16
 | | alligator: I believe the negative comments about Carlsen's Queen sacrifice miss the significance of this game, especially within the context of the entire match. Magnus needed only a draw to retain his World Championship title. Yet he chose to risk it all by playing for a win. The Queen sacrifice was not discovered by Magnus as if it were a game of the day problem position. Most likely, it was planned at least six moves before when he played Qd2 followed by Rc1 (gaining access to the open file.) Although there were safer ways to play this position, and despite having just a few minutes clock time, Carlsen chose to spend his time searching for and playing this particular sequence of moves. Meanwhile his opponent Karjakin apparently missed the upcoming mating combination. Otherwise he might have replied to Qxf4 by exchanging Queens in the hopes of saving face by obtaining another draw. Instead, Karjakin played for mate himself, creating a dramatic position where after Rc8+ Black had multiple mate threats. Carlsen forsaw this entire sequence. It is clear that he had hoped for this position so that he could end the match in a dramatic way. This not only proved to the world that Carlsen was the superior player. It provided chess fans something positive to remember about this match, rather than focus on the many draws. It showed the nature of Carlsen's character, his love of chess, and his desire to create interesting chess, not just win by grinding down his opponents. It showed those not familiar with chess that this sport can be appreciated for both its artistic and competitive aspects. Carlsen is not perfect. But those who have studied the match have already shown there were fewer mistakes in this world championship match compared to all the rest. So let's show our appreciation. Carlsen is a true champion. |
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Dec-01-16
 | | chancho: <Alligator> Couldn't have said it better. |
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| Dec-01-16 | | NBZ: <alligator> Great comment. I do wonder if Karjakin saw the mate when playing Qf2, but felt duty-bound to go for the line anyway, giving Carlsen a chance to go astray. |
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| Dec-01-16 | | WorstPlayerEver: <But those who have studied the match..> Yeah right.. let's show some *appreciation* to the crap written here: do you ever THINK before you post? I doubt it. Speaking of studying.. those who study the Dark Side, will be studied BY the Dark Side.. There you go!😊 |
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| Dec-01-16 | | izimbra: <Can anyone find another game that has this Nc2-b4 in conjunction with Nc3 maneuver/construction?> Using Chess365.com...
<26.Nc2> Is way, way past opening theory. The line starting from <9.Nc1> was already relatively rare, <11...Be6> more common than <11...Na6>, and <12.Be2> was a new position. |
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| Dec-01-16 | | Rookiepawn: It is really wonderful to have this thanks to CG. It is logical that chess lovers want more chess, therefore a longer match. It seems there will be Carlsen for a while. The way he finished this seems a good answer to the ones who label him as dry or cautious. |
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| Dec-01-16 | | izimbra: Commenting more on the opening: This game - D Andreikin vs M Tazbir, 2013 - is one the players might have been familiar with. There, after <11...Be6> White plays b4,Nxb3 and gets a nice outpost for a N on b5. Stockfish says that if Black is happy to draw then instead of retreating the Q to d8 as in that game, Black can move Qa3, and meet Nb5 with Qa4. |
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Dec-01-16
 | | BishopBerkeley: Video of the final moves of the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFx...
Congratulations, both, on a well-played championship! I hope you're all well & in good spirits.... |
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Dec-01-16
 | | saffuna: Carlsen made the final queen move instantly, not after ten seconds as one poster claimed. Not that it mattered.
If it were me (yeah right) I might have sat and admired it for five minutes, assuming I'd seen it. Karkjakin also resignd immediately, so he knew beforehand. |
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| Dec-01-16 | | Rolfo: <: I always identify with the underdog. I was hoping for Karjarkin to get the crown after a tough road. But this rapid games did show that Carlsen is way, way ahead.> One move ahead made him way way ahead |
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| Dec-01-16 | | csmath: The best player in the world is still the world champion so that is about the right thing to happen. |
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| Dec-01-16 | | TheBish: <acirce: N Popov vs A Novopashin, 1979> Thank you sir! I knew the theme was very recent - exactly 3 months ago! Now I don't have to look for it, saves me some time. (Although I knew it was a fairly recent POTD, and that I had posted the solution after solving it, and that I don't post nearly as often as I used to. Only 11 comments back!) |
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| Dec-01-16 | | newhampshireboy: Nice! |
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| Dec-02-16 | | not not: Carlsen went for Maroczy bind to get safe drawing position, then threaten repetition few times to push Karjakin into inferior lines and get winning advantage he won the title on black side of ruy lopez in the previous game. Karjakin team spent 1 million euro to prepare him how to lose Lopez as white lol |
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| Dec-02-16 | | Sokrates: Great post, <alligator> fully agree. <WorstPlayerEver> No reason to be so offending and ignore no. 3 in the posting guidelines. You're better than that. |
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Dec-02-16
 | | keypusher: Thanks for posting that video, BB. He did think for a while about his 49th move, because it was very committal and he had to see that mate in 8. By the way, one nice thing about these matches is you see posters that aren't around so much anymore -- you, csmath, acirce...hope you stick around. |
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| Dec-02-16 | | Eyal: Moments from some live broadcasts during Carlsen's final combination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpe... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ec... https://youtu.be/82dETTTM4zk?t=4h40... |
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