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Dec-01-16 | | SimplicityRichard: I propose that this game ought to be known as "Queen Down for The Crown" as suggested by <FSR> and <shamot>.# |
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Dec-01-16 | | chessalem: <50.Qh6!!
Considering the circumstance and the short time available this is one of the most startling and beautiful moves ever played on a chessboard.> magnus obviously has seen this ending a few moves back...but so would have Wesley! No big deal. |
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Dec-01-16 | | virginmind: Congratulations! |
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Dec-01-16
 | | piltdown man: That's why the lady is a champ. (Ok, not a lady, but you know what I mean). |
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Dec-01-16 | | Steve.Patzer: Good puzzle for White to move 49. |
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Dec-01-16 | | rajaonn: The people hailing MCs queen sac should be chess sophomores/beginner/tender kids.. it is an exercise that would be passed by a first grade kid. Hail him, Rub the rubbers feet and do any glory. Agreed to apreciate it once, and on telling same on the Q Sac move is silly.
Chess failed at New york. Its biased community header FIDE ruthless rule lived |
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Dec-01-16
 | | alexmagnus: The queen sac is one of those moves that are extremely easy to see when presented as a puzzle but easily would got missed in an actual game. |
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Dec-01-16
 | | chancho: User: aaa User: beautiful User: queen User: sac |
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Dec-01-16 | | whiteshark:  
User: world champion User: queensacrifice User: madness |
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Dec-01-16 | | acirce: N Popov vs A Novopashin, 1979 |
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Dec-01-16
 | | Jimmy720: Beautiful |
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Dec-01-16
 | | Sally Simpson: Hi beenthere240,
"To call the combination after move 49 a Monday puzzle is ludicrous." Well Monday is the traditional Queen sac day - who ever said it most likely meant it as a joke. Cracking jokes on here is a risky business. You have to post before the joke that a joke is coming and then post after the joke that you have just posted a joke. Hi Alex,
Yes here. (white to play)
 click for larger viewThe Queen sac is the only option, everything else losses. You find it by desperation solving, there are only two checks. Rh8+ goes nowhere so it must be the Queens sac with two lines to check. gxh6 Rf7 mate and Kxh6 Rh8 mate. The beauty being either capture gets mated by different Rooks. But take it back to here. (White to play)
 click for larger viewAnd then faced with mate in one, in the heat of the battle, world chess championship on the line, clocking ticking.... Even looking at 49.Rc8+ which takes the Rook off the back rank opening up another checkmate possibility with Ra1+ is crazy. ---
I remind everyone that when shown this possible line Peter Svidler said nobody would do such a thing, you would play Qg3 in three seconds. He, like most of us was in complete awe when it happened. Now some can argue with me about it, but you are also arguing with Peter Svidler the 7 times chess champion of Russia. ----
For those kibitzers who do not see the beauty and drama of the Queen sac,
I feel sorry for you. Nothing else, just sorrow and perhaps a feeling that if I walked through the ocean of your chess careers I would not even get my feet wet. |
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Dec-01-16
 | | profK: After Marshall's famous 23...Qg3 !!! he got the gold coins. Carlsen's 50.Qh6!! got at least a half million Euro. That's inflation for you. But even if it was a game in the 'quick' end of the playoff section of the match, it will be a forever memorable move to end a world championship challenge. |
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Dec-01-16 | | ChessHigherCat: <Diademas>, hah f'g hah, Nd5 |
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Dec-01-16 | | JimNorCal: Yes, I hope we see this finish as a puzzle next week. I'd say make it a Tuesday. In any event, a beautiful shot! Congrats to both competitors. |
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Dec-01-16 | | beenthere240: I agree that Tuesday is an appropriate puzzle day, especially if you start at move 49. Then you need to see both mates. Many of the kibitzers opined that 49...Bf8 would have saved the day. I was reacting to the belittling of a fantastic finish to 4 games of rapid chess. |
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Dec-01-16 | | WorstPlayerEver: I don't if morfishine already mentioned it but the pun is horrible! It should at least be called 'Two Rainbows' or something. |
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Dec-01-16
 | | FSR: acirce - a very beautiful precedent! Thanks! |
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Dec-01-16
 | | playground player: Zap! Pow! |
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Dec-01-16
 | | AylerKupp: <<chessalem> but so would have Wesley!> And so would have thousands watching on line. But what does it matter? None of them were participants in this game and those two are the only ones that count. |
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Dec-01-16 | | Calli: A Morphy ending. it always seemed to me that he liked to end things with a sparkle like Magnus does here. |
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Dec-01-16 | | zanzibar: Where is the beauty in the combo at the end?
Certainly the final move is quite elegant, and spectacular. But it was well foreseen reply to the king going to h7. The starting point of the combo, and the move deserving !!, is 49.Rc8+!!. That move spelled out the combo (50.Qh6+ is the obvious consequence of one of the lines), but it also committed Carlsen to dealing with 49...Bf8! - where the real challenge lies. The question is whether Carlsen saw the M-8 in its entirety. That would truly be impressive as testimony to his calculational ability. And if he didn't see the M-8 as a certainly, 49.Rc8+!! stands as testament to his intuition, nerve, and elan. |
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Dec-01-16
 | | chancho: If instead of 49...Kh7 Karjakin interposed with 49...Bf8, then: 50.Rxf8+ Kxf8 51.Rxf7+ Ke8 (51...Kg8 gets black mated faster)
52.Rf8+ Kd7 53.Qf5+ Kc6 54.Rc8+ Kb7 55.Qd7+ Ka6 56.Ra8# There's bound to be a more accurate line, so feel free to post it. |
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Dec-01-16
 | | keypusher: Speaking in terms of puzzles, move 50 seems like a classic Monday puzzle, it's a queen sacrifice, and there's exactly two variations, each one move deep. It's a beautiful sacrifice, and its nice that you mate with different rooks depending on how black takes the queen, and that one of the mates is a pure mate. But, not a lot to calculate. It's the beauty + the occasion -- the final, decisive move of a world championship -- that make it memorable. On the other hand move 49 seems too hard for a Tuesday, especially if people really make themselves calculate the mate in 8. |
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Dec-01-16 | | PJs Studio: Because his match preparation against the najdorf was VERY likely to play 5.f3 and 7.c4. Very solid line for a solid player like Magnus. |
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