Wilhelm Steinitz vs Simon Winawer (1883)

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Wilhelm Steinitz vs Simon Winawer
London (1883), London ENG, rd 1, Apr-26
Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit. Steinitz Gambit Paulsen Defense (C25) · 1-0

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Jan-15-04		Orcinus: "...it is speciially as regards the powers of the King that the modern school deviates from the teaching and practice of the theorists and we consider it established that the King must be treated as a strong piece both for attack and defense." - Steinitz The old school valued the king more than a minor piece in the endgame - for one, it can promote a pawn better - Steinitz went further. He was "inclicned to extend this valuation to all parts of the game" and claims the King plus one nearby pawn as equal to an unsupported Rook. After 8 Ke3 the king defends four pieces as no minor piece can. This helps gives Steinitz's games a massive vigor for the king's orbit of influence while short is complete. To use the queen like this is apt to be passive. Not until Karpov does one see typically anything like this massive vigor and bold king.

Jan-15-04		Benjamin Lau: Not completely true, you can see that Nimzowitsch and Petrosian often indulged in similar ideas. (i.e. Alekhine vs Nimzowitsch, 1914 Petrosian vs Unzicker, 1960)

Jan-15-04		tamar: I witnessed Petrosian doing this to Michael Stean in the 70's at Lone Pine blitz games. He would keep his ♔ in the center and when an attacker approached, he just walked right at it. He won game after game to our disbelief. I like this game against Kasparov where he responds to an all out assault by heading for c5! Kasparov vs Petrosian, 1981

Jan-16-04		Orcinus: Your games of Petrosian gave me an idea I hadn't thought of before. I knew one advantage for Petrosian to delay castling was defensive, to keep the opponent guessing what wing the king will be on. Now I see an offensive value. Until Petrosian commits himself to attacking on a wing, he won't castle until he does, and will do so to that wing using the king as an attacking unit. In both games his king was at the attacking wing and the other wasn't.

Jan-16-04		Benjamin Lau: Petrosian vs J Peters, 1976 J Diez del Corral vs Petrosian, 1969 Karpov vs A Zaitsev, 1970 are several more examples of kings taking a leisurely stroll. Karpov, Petrosian, Steinitz, and Nimzowitsch were the most famous for these but there is one game Short v.s. Timman with an even more outrageous king walk, one for offensive purposes: Short vs Timman, 1991

Jul-14-18		lame duck: The Steinitz gambit was first introduced in game Steinitz vs G Neumann, 1867, Dundee congress 1867, and its efficiency was checked in big tournament Baden-Baden 1870 (Steinitz vs Paulsen, 1870 and Steinitz vs S Rosenthal, 1870). All these three games were won by Steinitz. He decided to use this opening again in the tournament London 1883. This game against Winawer was played in round 1, Winawer played like Paulsen and also lost the game. But in games Steinitz vs Englisch, 1883 (2-nd round) and Steinitz vs Chigorin, 1883 (3-rd round) some new way of defending for blacks was demonstrated, and Steinitz lost both of these games. After these two defeats he never dared to play like this anymore. It is interesting to watch how the idea of Steinitz's gambit was transformed in later times - see the game Kavalek vs Stein, 1964, Tel-Aviv Olympiad 1964

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