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Jose Raul Capablanca vs Alexander Alekhine
"Phi Beta Capa" (game of the day Dec-14-2013)
Savorin Cup (1913), St Petersburg RUE, rd 1, Dec-14
Semi-Slav Defense: Quiet Variation (D30)  ·  1-0

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Jose Raul Capablanca vs Alexander Alekhine (1913) Phi Beta Capa


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Aug-04-13
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  Penguincw: Even though the larger board displays the final position, what's the actual position on the chessboard?
Dec-14-13
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  tpstar: What a fantastic photo! It captures the moment perfectly.

Good quality image too.

Dec-14-13
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  offramp: Unfortunately, Alekhine looks like a bellboy.
Dec-14-13  RookFile: Tpstar took the words right out of my mouth.
Dec-14-13  JustAnotherPatzer: <Rookfile> and mine
Dec-14-13
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  offramp: < tpstar: What a fantastic photo! It captures the moment perfectly.>

Which moment? The one on the chess board or the one on the demo board?

Dec-14-13
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  Richard Taylor: Great image of both men looking quite young: a great game by Capa. Has anyone since equaled these two? Possibly not.
Dec-14-13
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  Richard Taylor: I remember playing on tables like that and old mechanical clocks also. That was real chess.
Dec-14-13
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  Richard Taylor: < MainMansDad2006: I believe 28 years (consecutive, no less) at the top speaks for itself. And for all those who go on about theory from 100 years ago as opposed to now, naively insistent that "things have changed too much" for the likes of Lasker and Capa and sometimes I even hear Fischer's name thrown in there, I always just shake my head and want to laugh. Do you honestly think if Mozart or Beethoven came back from the grave, a few extra keys on the piano would have them staring blankly and bewildered at the very instrument of their ingenious? Just think, one day they'll be saying Kasparov and Karpov and Carlsen (etc., etc.) wouldn't amount to all that much in today's chess world. Bottom line, if one takes the time to first get their facts straight, they'll find that most--if not all--your chess-greats past and present (of course by past I mean post-Lasker-era) were and are influenced and inspired to tremendous degrees by Lasker's all-around approach to the game. Let us not forget, it took nothing less than the immortal "Chess Machine" Jose Raul Capablanca to unseat him, and questionably, some might argue, due to Lasker's waning health. Not Tarrasch, not Pillsbury, not Tschigorin--Capa. >

I agree, in fact though I think it is not just Capa (who has hardly been surpassed in this age of blitz chess passed off as "great chess" with so-called "Super" GMs with vastly inflated ELO ratings) but all those players contributed to the development of chess and even Tarrasch and Rubinstein, Nimzowich have not been surpassed (in essence). I don't agree with the "not list".

But the fixation with Fischer etc is amusing. Karpov, Korchnoi and Kasparov follow Tal and Botvinnik...who follow Capa and the others.

Dec-14-13  Boomie: <Richard Taylor: Capa (who has hardly been surpassed in this age of blitz chess passed off as "great chess"...)>

Curiously, Capa would also be virtually unbeatable at blitz today. Alekhine mentions in awe that at St Petersburg (1914), Capa was beating everybody at 5 to 1 odds. Hard to imagine anyone today giving such odds to that lineup.

Dec-14-13  Robespierre: What an EXTRAORDINARY photo of Alekhine & Capablanca! This photo will go on my wall with the pix of my little tykes.

As for the greatest chess players of all time (up until 13 Dec 2013), I believe that we must include the Titan, Tal, and Dr Emanuel Lasker in that number.

My best wishes to the stalwart & faithful 'Chessgames.com' contributors at this season of the year -- wherever they may be!

Dec-14-13  whiteshark: A ♔dom for Aljechin's thoughts while the picture has been taken.
Dec-14-13  morfishine: I really don't know what to say about Capablanca. At least for me, its hard to get excited about his style. We hardly ever saw him launch sharp, wide-open, board-wide attacks like this game: Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990

Granted, his overall record is powerful and breathtaking. He only lost 34 competitive games and didn't lose at all for 8 years (1916 - 1924).

Yet, he lost the title, fair and square, in 1926. There were so many errors by both sides in the 1926 WC match, that one has to question not only how could Capablanca perform so sloppily, but why couldn't he capitalize on his opponent's mistakes? I think these are legitimate questions.

And later, while supposedly trying to "play into form", he drops a piece against Saemisch at Karlsbad (1929): Saemisch vs Capablanca, 1929 and in the very same tournament, Spielmann completely outplayed him: Spielmann vs Capablanca, 1929

I don't know if we'll fully understand Capablanca

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Dec-14-13  goodevans: Intrigued by the pun, today I have learnt something new about American society. I have consigned it to the portion of my memory marked "not very important" and will most likely have forgotten it by tomorrow.

Even in the knowledge that this collection of Greek letters is not just random and has some meaning to Americans, I fail to see its relevance to this game in particular over any other of Capablanca's.

Dec-14-13  newton296: alekhine beat at the board and in fashion. pricless! look at capa's snappy suit, and pin stripe pants. sweetness! while alekhine looks like he borrowed a work uniform from the hotel bell hop!
Dec-14-13  Wyatt Gwyon: Alekhine looks less than thrilled in the picture.
Dec-14-13  RedShield: Alekhine and Capa both had a son a piece, I believe. Are there are any surviving direct descendants?
Dec-14-13  thegoodanarchist: <Wyatt Gwyon: Alekhine looks less than thrilled in the picture.>

He has just resigned! (Compare the final position with what is shown on the board.)

Dec-14-13  MarkFinan: Not too familiar with these guys game's, although I know a few of Capablanca's, but I've never seen what they looked like before.

The guy on the left has that early Fischeresque thing going on appearance wise, but looks very upper middle class with a touch of undeserving arrogance in his demeanor.

The bloke on the right looks like a chess player. ;)

Dec-14-13  woodthrush: <morfishine> this game IS a board wide attack! And a beautiful one at that. I have studied Capablanca's games, and there are many board wide attacks. This game reminds me of Carlsen attacks, and Fischer attacks, and Spassky attacks, and ...
Dec-14-13  pericles of athens: Wonderful picture!
Dec-14-13  woodthrush: <goodevans> if you had bothered to google it, you would find that phi beta kappa is the oldest honor society in the USA. while i suspect the society has no connection with this game, and suspect the punster is ignorant of its roots, what is worse is your sweeping generalization "learned something about American society today", where you take the silliness of one and apply it to many. further, you did not kibitz what "you learned", but i suspect you learned nothing, rather you simply wanted to share your disdain, again we can only guess for what.
Dec-14-13  RedShield: A well known picture, but this is a good reproduction - I hadn't noticed before what looks like Alex's wallet on the table before him, although I suppose it could be a snuff box.
Dec-14-13  woodthrush: Absolutely fabulous photograph of two future world champions. Look how young they are. Its easy to imagine that both dreamed the chess world would be theirs, yet they could only know this through the test of time.
Dec-14-13  Gambit All: Alekhine was years ahead of his time in terms of analytical technique. On the table before him is the very first smartphone running the original version of Fritz in this game. No one knew - but unfortunately the technology was primitive, crashed too much and put him in time trouble.
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