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|Sep-16-05|| ||al wazir: OK, I see. 35...Kf7 36. Qe6+ Kf8 37. Rc8, pinning the queen. But my question still stands.|
|Sep-16-05|| ||pantlko: <chessgames.com> why the event place is written Moscow (Russia) and player Leonid (UKR). I thought in 1967, it was USSR|
|Sep-16-05|| ||Happypuppet: Got the first move and calculated out a few variations (there's so many black defenses... :( ). Guess I can say I got it.|
The opening of this game is funny to look at.
|Sep-16-05|| ||weary willy: Al Wazir said <But did white see all that before he moved, or was the attack speculative? How much time did Stein take before playing 33. Rxf6? I saw the first couple of moves, but I certainly didn't see all of them, let alone the alternatives. |
Do GMs make these moves based on complete calculations, or on intuitive hunches? Either way, how often are they wrong?>
I'd be very surprised if GM white did not see all this before Rxf6. His position is so strong that he'd want to make sure - and the variations are concrete
|Sep-16-05|| ||DanRoss53: In my head, this was the easiest Thursday puzzle ever. 33.♖xf6 ♖xb1 34.♖xe7+ ♔xf6 35. ♕e6+ ♔g5 36. f4+ ♔h5 37. ♕h3# Oops.|
|Sep-16-05|| ||JeffCaruso: <DanRoss53 33.Rxf6 Rxb1 ... > 34 Rxe7+ is illegal because Rxb1 was check!|
|Sep-16-05|| ||DanRoss53: <JeffCaruso> Not in my head it wasn't. =)|
|Sep-16-05|| ||zb2cr: <DanRoss53> <In my head, this was the easiest Thursday puzzle>|
Uhmmm... It's Friday.
Got it; I'm proud of myself, since for me, Friday puzzles are usually hit or miss.
|Sep-16-05|| ||grook: <alwazir:Do GMs make these moves based on complete calculations.....>Well, GMs have a reputation to protect....they definitely have to think a move through. In this particular game I think Stein thought everything out, especially considering the sober 35.Qe4, made after coolly taking the Rook at b1.|
|Sep-16-05|| ||RookFile: Yeah, if you're looking for an easy
solution on Friday, chances are, it
won't happen. I looked that Rxf6 Rxb1
for a few seconds and said: "I'm not
going to break my head on this one,
let's just see what the answer is...."
|Sep-16-05|| ||YouRang: Got it! I thought this was a bit easier than yesterday's. After 33 Rxf6, one has to consider the two main lines:|
34. Qe6+ Kg5 (34...Kg7 35.Rxe7+)
35. Qe3+ Kh5 (35...Kf5 36.Qf4#)
33...Rxb1+, which proceeds as prescribed by <notyetagm>.
The key to finding the winning move, 33. Rxf6 is noticing that Black's e-pawn is pinned, leaving only the king to defend the bishop.
|Sep-16-05|| ||WannaBe: <blingice> Unless someone really blunders, good ending (game/puzzle)usually starts around move 30 or so...|
If you go to stats page ChessGames.com Statistics Page you see that average game is around 38/39 moves.
<pantlko> I think they might have done it to protest. Those country did not become/join USSR voluntarily.
<RookFile> Same here. =)
|Sep-16-05|| ||kevin86: A nice puzzle,showing both the power and agility of a queen.|
|Sep-16-05|| ||Sasquatch777: <pantklo> Like most of the Soviet states, they were "liberated" after WWII. They called it occupied, the russians called it liberated.|
|Sep-16-05|| ||YouRang: What a funny game! Black (Filip) mimmicked White's (Stein's) moves for the first 9 moves!|
Do you suppose this is done for psycological effect? Just to annoy? For some reason, I was happy to see Black lose with this strategy.
|Sep-16-05|| ||dac1990: As usual, I will keep up my streak of analyzing the weekend problems. Here goes.|
[33 ...Kxf6 34.Qd4+ Kf7 35.Qxa1 ]
[34 ...Qh8 35.Rxg6+! Rxg6 36.Qa1+ Rf6 37.Rxe7+ Kg6 38.Qb1+ Kg5 39.f4+ Kh6 40.Qe4 ]
[35 ...Rh7 36.f4 Rf7 37.Qe6+ Kg7 38.Rc8 Rf6 39.Qh3 ]
[36 ...Kg5 37.Qe3+ Kh5 38.Rxe7 Qxd5 39.g4+ Kxg4 40.Re4+ Qxe4 41.Qxe4+ ]
|Sep-16-05|| ||alexandrovm: <[36 ...Kg5 37.Qe3+ Kh5 38.Rxe7 Qxd5 39.g4+ Kxg4 40.Re4+ Qxe4 41.Qxe4+ ]|
Simple, really...> with a computer, of course it's simple. Or, why would you put the same comments my Fritz also did put? :)
|Sep-17-05|| ||pantlko: <WannaBe> & <Sasquatch777>: thanks for yr comments. But i understand that Ukrain and some other States voluntarily joined USSR.Even, if it was not volentarily, its part of history and shd be recorded accordingly. |
|Feb-17-09|| ||WhiteRook48: the first 9 moves are stunning, but he could have played 10...b5, really annoying White.|
|Jan-03-14|| ||parisattack: Very creative and aggressive play so typical of Stein.|
|Dec-06-14|| ||morfishine: "Flip off"|
|Dec-06-14|| ||kevin86: helpmate!|
|Dec-06-14|| ||The17thPawn: What is the point of 31...,Bf6? how does it accomplish anything the bishop isn't already doing? yes white can chase it back anyway with F4 but he has to further open is kingside to do so.|
|Dec-06-14|| ||greenfield67: <The17thPawn> White was threatening 32.Re7+ Qe7 33.Qg6+ Kf8 34.Rf3+ Bf6 35.Rf6+ Qf6 36.Qf6+ Kg8 37.Qa1 . So either e7 or g6 have to be defended. As it happens, both are defended on successive moves, and it makes no difference anyway...|
|Dec-06-14|| ||The17thPawn: <greenfield67> Thanks for setting me straight, I completely missed the dual threat and was concentrating on e7 which the bishop was already blocking|
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