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Valentine Green vs Wilhelm Steinitz
"Pinning and Winning" (game of the day Dec-20-2005)
Steinitz - Green m (1863), London ENG, rd 3, Dec-??
Italian Game: Giuoco Pianissimo. Italian Four Knights Variation (C50)  ·  0-1



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  Honza Cervenka: Nice final of this game (all sequence after 25.exf5?) is very instructive material for a lesson about perils of pin.:-)
Jun-02-03  kohutiar: What was the purpose of 7.Ne2 ?
Jun-02-03  CapAnson: In order to support an d4 or f4 advance I would suppose.. it's not a real good move in any case.
Nov-26-03  Dick Brain: One of the reasons to play Ne2 in this type of position is to redeploy the night to g3 and then to f5. it never made it there in this game though.
Feb-14-04  Catfriend: And nice choice of white's name!
Feb-14-04  kevin86: A big finish: If white captures,black moves southwest to capture the queen. ♕xb1. If white retreats,black moves southeast to mate. ♕h1*
Feb-14-04  marcus13: I dont think 7.Ne2 is good because after 7. ... Bxf3 white kingside is weak. But why is white pleaing 12.Kg2 the kingh seam more expose what is the goal of this move? Forget this question 12.Kg2 let the 1e rank for the roook. Subtil idea. It is suppose that an attack in the center should refutew a king side attack but it is not the case here.
Feb-14-04  iron maiden: Nice game. It's not every day you see an exciting game come out of the Giuoco Piano, huh?
Apr-23-04  gghfffh: nmhjrthet
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  WannaBe: Looks like something that always happen to me, once I castle, I get this massive attack on my castled position and my king ends up running around... =(
Dec-20-05  Queens Gambit: <Nice game. It's not every day you see an exciting game come out of the Giuoco Piano, huh?>

you call that exciting??????

Dec-20-05  patzer2: <Honza Cervenka> is correct that the forced pinning sequence begins with 25...Nxd3!

The followup 29...e5! uses the pin as a deflection to remove the guard, and sets up a final decisive deflection by removing the guard with 31...Rd2+!

Dec-20-05  patzer2: Fritz 8's suggestion 18. a4!, instead of 18. Qg1, seems to offer White equality or better.
Dec-20-05  EmperorAtahualpa: <<Nice game. It's not every day you see an exciting game come out of the Giuoco Piano, huh?> you call that exciting??????>

<Queens Gambit> Something is telling me that you find Queen's Gambit games more entertaining. :)

Dec-20-05  EmperorAtahualpa: There has to be better move than 21.b4 also..what about 21.Rd1?
Dec-20-05  EmperorAtahualpa: The pinning sequence in the end is beautiful and may I add also in a way quite unfortunate for White.

Great GOTD!

What is the pun about? Other than that it rhymes?

Dec-20-05  dakgootje: Aha! its a pin-pun! Nice game, however need to look better at it, while im at home, as im now at school...and they dont appreciate it very much if your looking at chess or playing games while you have to do your homework...
Dec-20-05  ReikiMaster: <EmperorAtahualpa> 21.Rd1 Rxa2 is not appealing but I agree that 21.b4 looks useless. The finish presents Decembers most dominating Queen!
Dec-20-05  AlexanderMorphy: the giuco piano if translated means something like a quiet game...however it usually leads to anything but a quiet game with attacks on either side...great game from Steinitz
Dec-20-05  kevin86: Black's forces completely dominatedthis one;white rarely got a piece past the third rank,black had his pieces swarm over white's position like a bunch of bees that wouldn't be-hive themselves.
Dec-20-05  Bobwhoosta: Steinitz was reknowned for his tactical ability until he dried himself out (little joke) by scientificating (not a real word) his views on chess. However, once he'd built up an advantage he was ready to start some tactics if they appeared...
Dec-20-05  Shubes82: I think that someone who knows what they are doing should make a point to comment or give some advice to <wannabe>, per his comment above about 'this looks like something that happens to me.' I'm not good enough yet to give advice myself, but I feel that is a common problem for beginners and amateurs alike. Anyone want to help out?
Dec-20-05  sirduke: I'll say two things for wannabe. First, be careful of compromising your king safety by allowing such demolitions or advancing protecting pawns, wrecking your castled position. Take this game, for example, with the pawn recapture on f3. Another common one is where you play h3 to kick the bishop, and it backs to h5, then you play g4 and it sits down nicely on g6 with your castled position in shambles. Second, never allow yourself to be in a position where you are simply defending. Try to develop some counterplay. Time is a big factor in chess, and one that many beginners don't fully understand. You may not realize, being on the defensive, that your opponent has no time to carry out his attack because you have a threat of your own. That's about the best I can say, being a beginner myself!
Dec-20-05  ajile: 7.Ne2=horrible
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  GrahamClayton: Interesting position after 29...e4:

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The White Rook is pinned to the King by 4 black pieces- Black must have enjoyed turning the screw from moves 26 onwards!

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