Bernard Fisher vs Wilhelm Steinitz (1872)

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Bernard Fisher vs Wilhelm Steinitz
Casual game (1872), Liverpool ENG, Oct-??
Bishop's Opening: Calabrese Countergambit (C23) · 0-1

White to move.

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Apr-09-05		Saruman: Yet this was a simul so Steinitz did not have as much time as in a standard game. If he had had I do not doubt that he would have found that variation. Still the text gives a rather uncomplicated win; if 21.Kg4? Rg5+ 22.Kh3 Kd7 wins immediatly. I found this variation after 5 minutes of thought, and I havent found a satisfactory refutation yet. At any rate white would have to sacrifice much material in order to prolong the struggle.

Apr-09-05		TheSlid: Superlative Queen-side play from Fisher, LOL!

Apr-09-05		aw1988: LOL, I had to rub my eyes and look at the header three times before realizing it wasn't "Fischer vs Steinitz" 1871 or 1971. Very confusing.

Apr-09-05		aw1988: And imagine my embarrasment when the last digit is in fact 2!

Apr-09-05		Saruman: <TheSlid> The funny part is the white queens moving pattern; h5-h7-d3-e3-e2-d1! And on move 14 it was as if white had not moved a single piece on the queenside.

Apr-09-05		Saruman: Another way of deciding matters could have been: 15.-Bd6!? 16.Re1 (What else? If 16.d4?? Qxh3+ 17.gxh3 Rxh3+ 18.Kg2 Rh2#) Qf4 17.g3(forced) Rxh3+ 18.Kg2 Rh2+ 19.Kf1 Rxf2+! 20.Kxf2 Qxg3+ 21.Ke2 (21.Kf1 Nh2+ 22.Ke2 Qf3#) Qg2+ 22.Ke3 Bf4+ 23.Kxf4 Qg5#.

Apr-09-05		Saruman: "Fisher needs a bigger hook" :-)

Apr-11-05		Saruman: Now since I felt very clever about my line below I decided to "double-check" the position. Immediatly the chesslab.com engine indicate 15.-Qg4 as mate in 6 moves or so. Not only did that occur to me but I also spotted 15.-Qf4 forcing mate or much material loss. Why did I miss this before? Perhaps my respect for Steinitz was too well rooted, even though this was a simul? All this I find exceedingly strange, not only because this game was one of those that gave Steinitz the nickname the "Austrian Morphy" (Chess Companion), but that he should play with such inaccuracy, even though he would easily win anyways.

Jun-20-05		aw1988: Black landed a nice catch.

Jun-20-05		fgh: Did Steinitz really calculate all the way to the mate? Amazing.

Jun-20-05		Kangaroo: Wilhelm Steinitz met a wrong Fisher What would have happened if he played against Robert James Fischer?

Nov-01-05		Averageguy: I was very confused when I looked at the player names when I realised to my relief that there was no "c" in the name of Steinitz's opponent.

Aug-30-06		Holmstrom: Is this variation "sound" for black?

Sep-22-08		GrahamClayton: What a great way to end a King hunt - with 2 "quiet" moves 23...♔f7 & 24...♗g7.

Feb-27-09		I Like Fish: fisher... caught... in the... fishing... net...

May-12-12		Anderssen99: Steinitz had a quicker win, i.e.: 15....,Qg4. 16.d3 (Or:Nc3),Rxh3+. 17.gxh3,Qxh3 mate.

Jan-03-15		tpstar: 14 ... Nf3+! is a nice sacrifice to open lines against White's King; 15. gxf3 Qxh3 and White cannot prevent 16 ... Qh1#. 15 ... Qg4 is quicker but Steinitz calculated the King hunt up the board for the flashier win.

Jan-03-15		morfishine: Either Steinitz or Fischer is helluva lot older than anyone ever supposed

May-10-16		Honza Cervenka: <Saruman: Now since I felt very clever about my line below I decided to "double-check" the position. Immediatly the chesslab.com engine indicate 15.-Qg4 as mate in 6 moves or so. Not only did that occur to me but I also spotted 15.-Qf4 forcing mate or much material loss. Why did I miss this before? Perhaps my respect for Steinitz was too well rooted, even though this was a simul? All this I find exceedingly strange, not only because this game was one of those that gave Steinitz the nickname the "Austrian Morphy" (Chess Companion), but that he should play with such inaccuracy, even though he would easily win anyways.> I don't think that Steinitz missed 15...Qg4. He simply played for spectators, and that is why he prefered the sacrifice of the Queen with a bit longer but for black perfectly safe Kinghunt leading as well to a forced mate.

Oct-27-19		sea7kenp: Hmmm... Bobby Fischer, a Time Traveler? :-D

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