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Sep-04-06
 | | chancho: British player Horatio Caro, and Viennese player Marcus Kann. Yup, you guessed it. |
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| Oct-28-06 | | Bob726: Black to move 17. ??? |
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Oct-28-06
 | | Benzol: Themes, Overload and Deflection. |
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| Mar-01-07 | | SirBruce: This is the only game for Kann, and Caro isn't in the database at all! Surely we owe these men to include some of their games? |
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| Mar-01-07 | | nescio: <SirBruce: and Caro isn't in the database at all!> Not at all? Horatio Caro |
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| Mar-02-07 | | SirBruce: Strange. You're right, he shows up when you do a player search, but I was doing a generic search, and under "Player" another Caro is listed but not Horatio. |
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| Mar-02-07 | | nescio: <SirBruce> I don't know how these search features work. Kann isn't in the player directory (too few games perhaps). But we don't miss much, both were quite unmemorable players. As far as i know this is the only surviving Kann game. |
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| Oct-19-07 | | whiteshark: Today it's widely unknown that the French Can-Can, a dance marked chiefly by high kicking were named after Kann. Maybe Jacques Mieses transferred it to Paris. The origns are from Hamburg, <Große Freiheit 36>, though. |
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| Oct-19-07 | | whiteshark: 13.a3 was a bad move. :(
Better was <13.Rc1>, which makes ♘c6 immobile n the first instance. <13...Kd7> undo <14.Nc3 Nfxd4 15.Kh1 Nxf3 16.Qxf3 Kc7>, at least better than in the game. :) |
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| Jan-24-10 | | wordfunph: seldom i see this kind of move in actual play...17...Rc1! what do you call this move? anyone? |
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| Jan-25-10 | | Buttinsky: Tactically correct |
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Feb-04-10
 | | FSR: Kann did a lot better here than Caro did in Pillsbury vs H Caro, 1898 |
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| May-13-11 | | Corndog2: One would at first think of the Caro-Kann as a solid and drawish opening. Think again! |
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| Dec-27-11 | | Crispy Seagull: I'm a fairly new to chess, but can someone explain why white resigned here? 18. Qxb6, Rxd1. 19. Kf2, axb6. White's down a rook, but is that worth a resignation? |
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| Dec-27-11 | | King Death: <Crispy Seagull> There's not much reason to play on here. White will be down the exchange and a pawn plus he'll lose more material getting his queenside pieces out. |
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| Jul-05-12 | | Xeroxx: sneaky |
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Jul-05-12
 | | offramp: <wordfunph: seldom i see this kind of move in actual play...17...Rc1!
what do you call this move? anyone?>
This is a Stoke-Adams Attack. |
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| Feb-12-13 | | Garech: Very nice! I agree with the above comments; it's mighty strange that we don't have more games in the database of Monsieur Kann - having an opening named after you surely deserves it! -Garech |
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Apr-09-13
 | | keypusher: From Marco's notes to Leonhardt vs Nimzowitsch, 1907 in the Karlsbad (1907) tournament book: <This opening was first analyzed in the eighth decade of the last century by the Viennese master Marcus Kann, and was first introduced into master play at a local Vienna master tournament. Kann scored many fine wins with this opening. See, for example, his brilliant success against Mieses in the <Hamburg Congress Book (1885)>, p. 235. Later, in the 1880s, the Berlin master Horatio Caro delved into the study of this opening, without however achieving any notable new results. The opening has nevertheless been given the compromise appellation "Caro-Kann." which has been accepted and retained by the entire chess world. Only in recent times has a northern German chess literature arisen that has excised the name of the dead Viennese master in favor of the Berliner, and the name "Caro's Opening" has appeared. This "innovation" will not prove fortunate, for the historical truth will not suffer to be suppressed but will always retain its rights. If one wishes to drop the compromise designation, then "Kann's Opening" is the only correct way of speaking.> Marco's faith in the power of historical truth is quite touching. Anyway, apparently there were some other Kann games with 1....c6. Maybe some of our archaeologists will find them. |
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Dec-01-14
 | | AylerKupp: <keypusher> If the opening was first analyzed in the 1880s by Marcus Kann then, as is often the case, the opening did not get its name from its originator but by its main analyzer/popularizer. The earliest game with 1.e4 c6 in the current <chessgames.com> opening database is Mohishunder vs Cochrane, 1856. And there are likely other, even earlier games, in other opening databases. Still, it’s proper that the opening bears, at least in part, Kann’s name. But, in a way, it’s a good thing that the opening is referred to as the Caro-Kann. Otherwise, imagine the confusion and possible categorization errors with the Kan variation of the Sicilian! |
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| Dec-01-14 | | TheFocus: If Mieses can't do it, Marcus Kann. |
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| Apr-26-15 | | johnlspouge: @<wordfunph>: The tactic 17...Rc1 is related to the hook-and-ladder. [ http://www.chesskid.com/article/vie... ] The R in the hook-and-ladder usually delivers a check. Here, the position of the Qs (WQ pinned, BQ protected) renders the check unnecessary. |
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Dec-19-15
 | | Penguincw: Pink Panther's to do list:
- To do
- To do
- To do, to do, to do, to do, to doooo
(hehe)
(FTR: On Dec/18/1963, the first Pink Panther movie was released) Anyway, Saturday puzzle here. I'm not sure if it's me, but this week, the puzzles are pretty easy. I got this one, or at least the first move, 17...Rc1. I knew what was the reason behind it and all. The only line I didn't consider was 18.Kf2, but I don't think 18...Rxd1 19.Qxb6 axb6, leaving black up the exchange and a pawn is hard to see. |
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| Dec-19-15 | | stst: Looks easy, but. there could be subtlety..yet W Q is pinned, so Q-a file + is impossible. 17.........Rc1
(A)
18.RxR QxQ+ forks corner R
19.K moves QxR
(B)
18.QxQ RxR+
19.Kf2 P(a7)xQ
either case, Black got the exchange advantage |
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Dec-19-15
 | | piltdown man: Quite easy, I thought. |
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