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Hugh Edward Myers vs Dmitri Poliakoff
56th US Open (1955), Long Beach, CA USA, rd 10, Aug-17
Zukertort Opening: Symmetrical Variation (A04)  ·  0-1

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Apr-06-15
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  Sneaky: No, I don't think it's really that bad, I attribute the statistic imbalance to a type of skewing that you often see in those tables. Some moves attract patzers more than others, for some reason.
Apr-06-15  zb2cr: 48. ... Qxf1+; 49. Bxf1, Nf2#. Very simple, with it being Monday and all.
Apr-06-15  gauer: But after 1 ♘f3 ♘f6, there was no 2 d3; just 2 c4 g6 3 ♘c3 ♗g7 4 d4 etc in the Fischer brilliancy game - although black is probably happy with the move-order choice of having more flexibility there with 4 ... 0-0 instead of merely considering entry to a Grunfeld or King's Indian directly (by considering a d6 or d5). This one, however, even seems to be lacking the bite of a king's Indian, reversed.
Apr-06-15  Nick46: Elementary my dear Myers, Monday is QueensacDay.
Apr-06-15  morfishine: <48...Qxf1+> and mate next move: 49.Bxf1 Nf2#

<Sneaky> You lost me with this comment: "One of the many Black victories after 2.d3 is an extremely famous one: D Byrne vs Fischer, 1956

This is a Gruenfeld

*****

Apr-06-15  Caissas Clown: offramp: Myers's 2.d3 was an odd opening bullet in this game.

Groan! But still,kind of funny !

Apr-06-15  CHESSTTCAMPS: Black removes the guard to force mate: 48... Qxf1+ 49.Bxf1 Nf2#. With the black queen on c5, black would have another nice mate-in-2.
Apr-06-15
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  Sneaky: <gauer/morfishine> My error, I misread the Opening Explore page.
Apr-06-15  morfishine: One interesting aspect of this game is White's repeated early attempts to trade Queens; eventually, Black sacs his Queen; But, as <Once> points out, 48.Ra4??? was a fatal error uncovering the second rank, specifically <f2>

Obligatory was 48.Qa4 maintaining the balance

*****

Apr-06-15  A.T PhoneHome: <48...Qxf1+> to remove the guard of f2; as it's with check, Bishop has to capture, <49.Bxf1> and now <49...Nf2#> mate.

Have a good week <people>!

Apr-06-15  Cheapo by the Dozen: Nice and simple.

TGIM, especially after last week.

Apr-06-15  Mating Net: We have a prototype corner mating pattern in the final position.
Apr-06-15
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  Penguincw: Ah, great way to start a week. Just queen sac, and deliver mate.

According to this game collection (Game Collection: Checkmate: Checkmate Patterns), this mate would be called the "Knight Corner Mate". Never saw one of these before.

Apr-06-15  whiteshark: H8-2-c lac♔ of freedom of leg movement...
Apr-06-15  kevin86: Simple mate in two after Qxf1+...the rook must be removed from guarding f2.

typical Monday queen sacrifice.

Apr-06-15
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  scormus: 48 Ra4. oh dear, leading to a very sudden 0-1. I must admit, as blunders go it rivals one of mine in a recent game .... with an equally painful outcome :(
Apr-06-15
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  mjmorri: A cold slap in the face, but it has happened many times.
Apr-06-15  JohnBoy: Yeah - what <chrisowen> said. Exactly.
Apr-06-15
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  Bubo bubo: Removal of the guard: 48...Qxf1+ 49.Bxf1 Nf2#
Apr-06-15  Marmot PFL: <Is 2. d3 really so bad? Okay, it's far from the best move in the position, but it doesn't lose outright. And it does get White into a playable middlegame. >

If the King's Indian is OK for black than it can't be too bad for white. 15 moves in I would take white with the bishop pair, but after that he gets outplayed.

Apr-07-15
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  ChessCoachClark: I prefer to call the ending position of this game a Corner Mate, straight. Yes, in the previously-cited <penguincw> game collection, based on Schiller's book, it's given the name Knight Corner Mate.

However, according to several other sources, notably Wikipedia's checkmate patterns, Corner Mate is used for this Knight mate in the corner and the Corner Mate according to Schiller is the H-File Mate for others.

I'd much rather see two different names than extending one alone. At any rate, I've started a game collection today, <Corner Mate Examples> (where the Knight engages) and will keep expanding it as I find more games at this database (I've found dozens elsewhere).

All the best to all, always.

Apr-07-15  TheaN: Monday 7 April 2015 <48....?>

A little late on this one due to second easter day, <48....Qxf1+ 49.Bxf1 Nf2# 0-1> I had seen yesterday but no time to post.

Apr-07-15
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  offramp: Reversed is worst.
Apr-07-15
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  perfidious: <Sneaky: No, I don't think (2.d3 is) really that bad, I attribute the statistic imbalance to a type of skewing that you often see in those tables. Some moves attract patzers more than others, for some reason.>

Very often, such offbeat ideas are played when opposed by a weaker player who is looking to get away from well-trodden paths, though in Myers' case, he was clearly devoted to such byways throughout his career.

There is a perfectly natural fear of facing a clearly stronger player than oneself, but in time, one adapts or perishes.

From my youthful experiences:

<Had that against stronger opposition in some cases as a teen, but managed to put it behind me.>

Gashimov Memorial (2014)

Apr-08-15  patzer2: With the recent Monday puzzle (48...?), I can somehow hear Mary Poppins saying "spit spot hurry it up get on with it 48...Qxf1+ 49. Bxf1 Nf2#."

White's decisive mistake was 33. gxf4? Instead 33. Nb6 = or 33. Bxf4 = holds. Earlier 32. Nb6 would have been even better.

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