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| Jan-30-04 | | Catfriend: Excellent site, though a bit too technical, as you said.
However, I'm still convinced that all the three - 4..d3, 4..d:c3, 4..♘f6 - may give black a better game...
If you want to play such positions, play 1.e4 c5 2.d4 immediately! |
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| Jan-30-04 | | refutor: <Catfriend> why again isn't 4.c3 as strong against 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.c3? |
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| Jan-31-04 | | Catfriend: Just a feeling:) |
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| Jan-31-04 | | refutor: <Catfriend> oh i thought you had some good reason not to play it...i am looking for an antidote to 2. ... e6 and was thinking about playing 4.c3 |
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| Jan-31-04 | | Catfriend: Few ideas for you... 3.c4, 3.b3 and 3.♘c3 ♘c6 4.♗b5. (I see you try to avoid d4) |
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| Jan-31-04 | | refutor: 3.b3 is garbage (i have learned the hard way). i'm thinking about biting the bullet and just playing the mainline ;) |
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| Jan-31-04 | | Aliasad: I disagree with you Catfriend. I put a high value on the psychological effect of delaying d4 and c3 in the Smith-Morra. Whatever black plays in move 4, white will still have a pretty good game. More importantly it will be a game that doesn't have a true Sicilian feel to it. As black how would one generally go about playing the delayed version of the Smith-Morra? |
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| Feb-01-04 | | Catfriend: I don't call it a refutation or something, but after 4.c3, why not 4..d:c3 5.N:c3 g6? |
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| Feb-01-04 | | Catfriend: And after all, I can simply play the main 5..Nc6.. I personnaly don't think it's sound for white! But then again it depends on many factors - yours and your enemy's styles, the time control, the tournament situation etc. |
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| Feb-01-04 | | waddayaplay: I thought ...e6 ...d6 and ...Nc6 were all common procedure for black in the smith-morra? Then later push e5, maybe Bg4 and Nd4. Since white is a pawn down he needs to build a succesful attack or he will face a bad endgame, so black only needs to make sure he defends properly. |
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| Feb-01-04 | | waddayaplay: Another try to refute the sicilian is the wing gambit... (2.b4?!) It is labelled B20. |
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| Feb-01-04 | | Aliasad: Refute the sicilian? Will that ever be done? Doubt it. Right now I think that the best way to play against the sicilian is to avoid it. 1. d4 is where I'm thinking of concentrating. The games I've played with it have been really good, though i've heard that there's a lot of theory involved in 1.d4, especially in the KID. |
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| Feb-01-04 | | Benjamin Lau: What's considered the best line against the Wing Gambit? Should one accept? |
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| Feb-01-04 | | Catfriend: I can find nothing better |
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| Feb-01-04 | | Catfriend: At a second thought, if somebody plays 2.b4 he is agressive-minded right now, so 2..e6 may be surprising! |
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| Feb-01-04 | | Benjamin Lau: Yeah, but white still plays d4 in that line, and gains a tempo too kicking the bishop (i.e. 1. e4 c5 2. b4 e6 3. bxc5 Bxc5 4. d4 Be7). I'm thinking about just declining the gambit with the timid 2...b6 but the opening explorer has only two examples of that, meaning that most masters avoid this move for some reason. |
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| Feb-01-04 | | Catfriend: I meant 4..♗b6, keeping the pressure.
And 2..b6 seems simply like saying "I have nothing to do. Skipping the turn. Of course, it isn't exactly like that. But I'd like to have the initiative all the same. Oh, if you like tactics, play 2..d5!? |
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| Feb-01-04 | | Benjamin Lau: Eh, I like playing for tactics, but usually only when I have the power deal them, not receive them ;-) so 2...d5!? may not be best for me. I think I'll just keep trying the ...b6 idea. It's not as bad as it looks since it lets you fianchetto your QB, which is common in the Sicilian anyway. I tried accepting the gambit before but I don't like how white can play d4 soon after, it doesn't look very comfortable to me. However, black has the option of countergambiting a pawn later, so maybe that option could prove interesting, i.e. the b6 Benkoish (1. e4 c5 2. b4!? cxb4 3. a3 b3!?; this follows a key line in the d4 Benko that goes 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. cxb5 a6 5. b6!? giving black back the pawn. This line has done much better than the 5. bxa6 idea and the same concept may be applicable to the wing gambit in the sicilian. |
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| Feb-01-04 | | Catfriend: 2.b4 c:b4 3.a3 d5 or 3..e6 look nice!
For example,3..d5 4.e5 ♘c6 5.d4 ♕b6 6.♘ge2 ♗g4 7.f3 ♗f5 8.g4 ♗g6 9.h4 h5 10.a:b4 h:g4 11.f:g4 e6 12.c3 f6 13.♘f4 ♗f7 e:f6 ♘:f6 |
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| Feb-01-04 | | zorro: <Catfriend> The Dragon formation against the Morra is the weakest of black possibilities 'cause being a tempo up, after 5...g6 white already has 6. Bc4. Reverting to the Nf6-Alapin is a good choice I think, while the d5-Alapin, as you pointed out, isn't so good 'cause black has already exchanged on d4, but you coul play in Grunfeld style 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cd4 3.c3 d5 4. ed5 Nf6 |
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| Feb-07-04 | | Aliasad: Hey guys what do think about 1. e4 c5 2.c4? It transposes play to an english or maroczy bind variant. |
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| Feb-08-04 | | Catfriend: I think that it leads to games you don't want to have, if you play 1.e4. If you want to have english play english... e4 is too agressive to transpose it to english or Maroczy IMO. But then, I'd recomment always the most tactical move,so don't listen to me:) |
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| Feb-08-04 | | refutor: <<Catfriend> e4 is too aggressive to tranpose it to english or Maroczy IMO> i think the maroczy is good...realistically, black has two pawn breaks in the sicilian ...b5 and ...d5. obviously the maroczy isn't going to stop both but it helps defend against both, which makes it tougher for black |
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| Feb-08-04 | | Catfriend: ...and creates an awful hole on d4, helping both ♗g7 and ♘c6 reach good places |
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| Feb-08-04 | | refutor: i think protecting vs. ...d5 is worth a hole on d4...you must hate the sveshnikov ;) |
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