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| Aug-11-03 | | PVS: Chessgames.com, I am unable to find Hübner-Gligoric from Tilburg 1977. You seem to have most of the games from that event in the database. |
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| Mar-24-04 | | ruylopez900: What do people consider the best way to respond to the English... 1...c5, 1...e5 or 1...Nf6 (looking for 2.d4 and an Indian setup)?? I prefer 1...Nf6, but only to avoid learning the theory on ANOTHER opening! |
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| Mar-24-04 | | Kenkaku: I play 1...Nf6 in hopes of forcing d4, but generally this will not occur. 2. Nc3 seems to be the usual followup, after which I play 2...e5. I also like the Caro-Kann Defensive System, 1. c4 c6, but I play the former more often than this. |
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| Mar-24-04 | | refutor: an interesting line after 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 is ...d5 aiming for a grunfeld with d4 without d4 black has gained his equality. 1.c4 c6 is also something i use as well |
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| Mar-24-04 | | ruylopez900: Thanks <refutor> for providing that idea of d4 if they aren't as helpful as I would like :D. |
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| Mar-24-04 | | Slovensko: As an English player...
after 1...Nf6, I play 2.g3 just to spite the opponent, because he/she usually seeks an Indian defense and I don't want to give him/her a "moral" victory by playing his/her prepared defense. Most English players will not play 2.d4 against 1...Nf6 either, but I still like 1...Nf6, because it is a non-committing move from which black can still play pretty much any setup and isn't committing any pawns forward yet.Out of all the systems, I found Symmetrical English(1...c5) the hardest to gain an advantage against, despite its "boring" reputation. |
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| Mar-24-04 | | ruylopez900: Thank-you for your "inside" view Slovensko
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| Mar-24-04 | | Calchexas: <Slovensko>: That's what I'm putting in my computer's opening book. :D I think that 1. ...c5 is hardest because after 1. ...e5, White can play roughly as if he were Black in the Sicilian; after 1. ...Nc3 2. d4, it's transposed into the Indian; 1. ...f5 is rarely good anywhere; and almost anything else transposes into something either good for White or better known. |
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| Mar-24-04 | | refutor: actually the dutch is better v. 1.c4 than v. 1.d4 because black avoids most of the gambit lines ;) |
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| Mar-24-04 | | ruylopez900: <Calchexas> you do mean 1...Nf6 when you mention transposing into an Indian, right? |
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| Mar-24-04 | | Calchexas: Yeah. I do that all the time. |
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| Mar-24-04 | | ruylopez900: <refutor> Do you think that 1...f5 is sound against the English or just less unsound then against Queen Pawn openings? |
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| Mar-24-04 | | actual: I play 1...e6 and 2...d5 |
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| Mar-24-04 | | BiLL RobeRTiE: Yuck. Why anybody would choose to play something as boring and passive as the vanilla QGD is beyond me. |
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| Mar-24-04 | | ruylopez900: Bill, I feel the same way. Nothing like a KID to give the game excitement! |
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| Mar-24-04 | | Kenkaku: <BiLL RobeRTiE> Check out some of Pillsbury's games and see if you change your mind about the passivity of the QGD. |
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| Mar-25-04 | | refutor: i would never play it myself :) but i think the dutch is sound even v. 1.d4. the advantage to playing it v. 1.c4 is that it doesn't allow some of the more dangerous lines (1.d4 f5 2.Nc3/2.e4/2.Bg5 for instance). if i were to start playing the dutch i would play it v. 1.Nf3 and 1.c4 until i got comfortable in the positions, then use it "full time" v. 1.d4 <bill robertie> actual has a good line there, and there's no reason to make it a vanilla QGD...lots of players play 1. ... e6 and 2. ... d5 to go to the tarrasch defense which provides lots of play for both sides |
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| Mar-25-04 | | ruylopez900: How long can White go playing the "Black side" of the Sicilian after 1.c4 e5? |
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| Mar-25-04 | | refutor: really you should be asking the opening explorer :) but a line like this English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto (A29) has very similar characteristics to a reversed dragon |
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| Mar-25-04 | | Helloween: I play 1...Nf6 against the English, to give my opponent the chance to transpose into an Indian defence. If he doesn't play 2.d4, I either play 2...e6 or 2...c5, transposing into a symmetrical. I play the hedgehog system of the symmetrical. In the 2...e6 system I play Bb4,b6,Bb7/Ba6,d5 etc. with a nice Queen's Indian setup. |
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| Mar-25-04 | | AdrianP: I too play Nf6 against the English... since my main opening against d4 is the King's Indian, c4 does not pose a particular problem... you just go for a normal King's Indian set-up and White will usually play d4 at some point. |
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| Mar-25-04 | | ruylopez900: Anyone else here play the English? I only play it in skittles games, nothing important, but I usually avoid transposing out of the English, forcing them to play MY opening. Also some people (though granted a minority) have never seen 1.c4 and then the fun really begins =D. |
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| Mar-25-04 | | actual: <alot of players play 1. ... e6 and 2. ... d5 to go to the tarrasch defense which provides lots of play for both sides> yes, I aim for the tarrasch or a semi-slav, not an orthodox QGD like Bill Robertie assumed. |
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| Mar-25-04 | | BiLL RobeRTiE: Semi-Slav is good! But after 1. c4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 you can't play it. Thus a better move order is c6 before e6, i.e. 1. c4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 (4. Bg5? can be met with 4...dxc4 or 4...Ne4) e6 and we have the desired effect. Of course you could play the Tarrasch with the ...e6 ...d5 move order but going for a Semi-Slav seems rather unwise to me because you are forced to play an Orthodox sort of QGD after 4. Bg5. |
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| Mar-25-04 | | refutor: play 1.c4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 c5! nothing orthodox about that ;) |
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