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| Jan-11-03 | | Karakoram: After:
1. d4 Nf6
2. Nf3 c5
3. d5 b5
4. e6 Bb7?!
white usually plays 5. c4
but after 5. Bxb5 the game seems better for white (no games in database after this move).
ie.
5. Bxb5! Qa5+
6. Nc3 Nxd5
7. Ne5!
and a lot of presure on the weak black d- and f-pawns. |
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| Jul-29-03 | | uponthehill: It's my favourite black's opening. It brings oponents to the labirynths of a closed positions, in which I feel much sure then in open ones (opposite to white, playing which I prefer open games). Can transform black's camp into stronghold and gives them good defending position. |
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| Jul-29-03 | | AgentRgent: This is my response to 1. d4 also. I love the fact that it is immeciately confrontational (I also play 1...Nf6 against 1. e4), and forces play to go down paths with which i'm familiar. The responses I usually see (in approximate order of frequency) are 2. Nf3 (I love this as 2...cxd4 leads only to good things for Black), 2. c3 (I usually get this from people who are looking to play the Colle System), 2. d5 (which I follow with 2...Nf6 and usually get 3. c4 b5 the Benko Gambit) and lastly 2. dxc5 (Again fine for black after 2...Qa5+ and 3...Qxc5) |
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| Jul-29-03 | | Pterodactylus: For all 1.d4 c5 openers, this game should please you:
Ogaard Leif (NOR) vs E Torre, 1976 |
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| Jul-30-03 | | Kenkaku: I've taken up this opening recently and it has been a godsend against players who aren't very booked up on theory. In a recent game I faced the 1. d4 c5 2. Nf3 cxd4 line that AgentRgent was speaking of and my opponent obtained a hopeless position after only the first few moves. Against stronger lines though I will usually end up transposing into a Modern Benoni-like setup. |
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| Feb-14-04 | | marcus13: I think it is better to play Nf6 before. |
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| Feb-14-04 | | Catfriend: You mean the Modern Benoni? Well, it seems to be safer, but also more analysed. |
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| Feb-14-04 | | marcus13: It is was we liked when it is more analysed. U seem to don't like analyse line why? |
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| Feb-15-04 | | Catfriend: 1) It makes chess too much learning by heart
2) I don't have the time to learn everything by heart and bored people who maybe are weaker than me can just study day and night and win |
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| Feb-24-04 | | Benjamin Lau: What should white play after 1 d4 e6 2 c4 c5 3 d5 exd5 4 cxd5 d6 5 e4 f5?! |
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| Mar-03-04 | | Shad0wl0rd16: hey everyone, guess what? in the benoni you can play the same tricks as in the QGA, like 1.d4 c5 2.dxc5 e6 3.b4 a5 4.c3 axb4 5.cxb4 Qf6 6.Nc3 Qxc3+ 6. Bd2, and 4.bd2 axb4 5.Bxb4 Nc3 6.Ba3 Qf6 7.c3 Rxa3 8. Nxa3 Qxc3+ 9. Qd2 Qxa1+ 10. Qd1 Qc3+ 11. Qd2 Qxa3. |
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| Mar-03-04 | | Shad0wl0rd16: that is, old benoni, it doesn't quite work in the modern benoni i don't think. |
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| Mar-20-04 | | ruylopez900: The Old Benoni seems a little weird but it is a gambit (and open files and a centre pawn in exchange for a deficit of 1 ♙ is alright.) |
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| Mar-20-04 | | Bears092: <AgentRgent: This is my response to 1. d4 also. I love the fact that it is immeciately confrontational (I also play 1...Nf6 against 1. e4), and forces play to go down paths with which i'm familiar.> I play 2.e4 against this in quick tourneys.
The Smith-morra probably doesn't work, but it gets most benoni players out of their book |
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| Apr-16-04 | | Dillinger: <Ben> Bb5+ no? |
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| Apr-16-04 | | Benjamin Lau: The Taimanov-ish continuation crossed my mind but I can't help but feel white has no advantage after 1 d4 e6 2 c4 c5 3 d5 exd5 4 cxd5 d6 5 e4 f5?! 6 Bb5+ Bd7 7 Bxd7 (7 a4?! Bxb5 8 axb5 fxe4 wins a pawn although black now has problems stirring up queenside activity) Qxd7 and white still has the unpleasant ...fxe4. 8 f3!? perhaps. It is said that sometimes the best way to refute a seemingly bad move is to play a seemingly bad move. Unfortunately, the black queen check and response g3 makes white's pawn structure a bit mushy for my taste. So it seems that ...Bd7 solves any problems that Bb5+ may give because unlike in the Taimanov (which punishes Bb5+ Bd7 with e5!, white cannot play e5 otherwise he loses the bishop since his knight is not yet on c3. |
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| Apr-16-04 | | PaulKeres: I think this is a nice opening but Modern Benoni better. |
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| Apr-16-04 | | AgentRgent: <Bears092: I play 2.e4 against this in quick tourneys> Yes the Smith-Morra is a tricky response, and if one plays 1...c5 one had better be prepared for it. But most 1.d4 people are not going to also be Smith-Morra players either (and vica versa). For examply my club's president plays the Smith-Morra but he'll never play 1. d4 trying to get to it, because against him I just play my Nimzo/Bogo Indian. |
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| Apr-16-04 | | Dillinger: still, I can't find anything better, except perhaps to bolster the bishop move with nc3 first. white can castle first and black has a mess on the kingside and no obvious way to hold on to the f pawn (not that he seems to want to). |
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| Apr-16-04 | | ruylopez900: How much does the initial Nf6 help in the Modern Benoni? |
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| Apr-17-04 | | PaulKeres: < ruylopez900: How much does the initial Nf6 help in the Modern Benoni? >, only to stop e4 I guess. But actually I'm not to sure other than that. |
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| Apr-17-04 | | Dillinger: its also a waiting move, to transpose into other lines (KID, Grunfeld, etc) if white plays a line unfavorable to the benoni. |
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| Apr-17-04 | | PaulKeres: absolutely <Dillinger>, a waiting move, why play 1...c5 immediately, see what white planning, give less away to White of your game plan. |
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| Apr-17-04 | | Kenkaku: <PaulKeres> The Modern is quite different from the Old Benoni. Black will be looking to play 2...e5 (1. d4 c5 2. d5 e5), not playing Nf6 for several moves to come. |
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| Jun-23-04 | | tacticsjokerxxx: the old benoni transposes into the modern benoni after 2. d5 - Nf6 3.c4 (which are considered to be the best moves) that is obvious, there is no difference.
The defecit of playing -Nf6 first is that your opponent might play 2. Bg5, the trompowsky, or something of the like. |
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