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| Sep-25-21 | | nok: Fair enough. Vidit's "surname" is misleading at best, and I don't think he uses it either: Vidit Santosh Gujrathi (kibitz #28) His player page should really be <S Vidit>. |
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Sep-26-21
 | | beatgiant: I found the following chain in the rating list. Gujrathi (Vidit) (2727) is Marathi.
Marathee (1669) is French.
French (1952) is English.
Englisch (1868) is Austrian.
Viennois (1981) is French.
French (1714) is American.
Amerika (2227) is Latvian.
Latvenas (1141) is Lithuanian.
Lith (1683) is Dutch.
Duch (2206) is Polish.
Polich (2149) is Ukrainian.
Ukrainskaya (1059) is Russian.
Rossi (2235) is Italian.
The cycle ends with Italiano (1462) who is actually Italian. |
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Sep-27-21
| | beatgiant: <I didn't find any others over 2500> In fact, Megaranto (2548) should probably count toward one of the Indonesian scripts. My first guess is Javanese, based on looking up his place of birth on a linguistic map of Indonesia. |
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Sep-27-21
| | beatgiant: The maximum attainment of writing systems in the world championship cycle (interzonals/world cup, candidates, finalist, champion), with year first attained. I don't include the FIDE events from the split-title era. I also don't include the other qualifiers like Grand Swiss. Accuracy not guaranteed! It's a lot of work to check. Latin - champion, 1886
Cyrillic - champion, 1927
Armenian - champion, 1963
Tamil - champion, 2007
Hebrew - finalist, 2007
Han ideographs - candidates, 2016
Devanagari - candidates, 2016
Mongolian - interzonal, 1967
Arabic - interzonal, 1967
Georgian - world cup, 2005
Malayalam - world cup, 2005
Telugu - world cup, 2005
Bengali - world cup, 2005
Greek - world cup, 2009
Javanese - world cup, 2011 |
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Sep-27-21
| | beatgiant: The maximum number of writing systems at each stage of the world championship cycle (same restrictions as above). Final: 2007 (Tamil, Cyrillic, Hebrew, Latin, Armenian) Candidates: 2016 (Cyrillic, Latin, Tamil, Armenian, Devanagari, Han ideographs) Interzonal/World Cup: That's a lot to check! I'm guessing it reached maximal coverage in 2021. I'll list out the ones I was able to verify, and there might be one or two more. Latin, Armenian, Devanagari, Cyrillic, Arabic, Telugu, Han ideographs, Hebrew, Tamil, Malayalam, Georgian, Javanese, Burmese, Mongolian, Bengali, Greek, Sinhala |
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Sep-27-21
| | beatgiant: And if I'm not mistaken, Burmese and Sinhala first appeared in the championship cycle in world cup 2021. |
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Oct-01-21
 | | alexmagnus: October:
European Union:
1. Giri 2774
2-3. Firoizja 2770
2-3. Rapport 2770
4. Vachier-Lagrave 2763
5. Duda 2756
6. Topalov 2730
7. Vallejo 2701
8-10. Navara 2691
8-10. Wojtaszek 2691
8-10. Van Foreest 2691
Former Soviet Union:
1-2. Nepomniachtchi 2782
1-2. Aronian 2782
3. Grischuk 2773
4. Mamedyarov 2765
5. Radjabov 2763
6. Karjakin 2743
7. Andreikin 2728
8. Vitiugov 2727
9. Espienko 2720
10. Dubov 2714
Former British Empire:
1. Caruana 2800
2. So 2778
3. Dominguez 2760
4. Anand 2753
5. Nakamura 2736
6. Vidit 2727
7. Harikrishna 2719
8. Adams 2716
9. Shankland 2714
10. Xiong 2700
Asia:
1. Ding 2799
2. Anand 2753
3. Wang 2744
4. Vidit 2727
5. Wei 2725
6. Harikrishna 2719
7. Le 2709
8. Bu 2705
9. Yu 2704
10. Maghsoodloo 2701
Born later than the world champion:
1. Caruana 2800
2. Ding 2799
3. So 2778
4. Giri 2774
5-6. Firouzja 2770
5-6. Rapport 2770
7. Duda 2756
8. Vidit 2727
9. Wei 2725
10. Esipenko 2720
Nuclear powers:
1. Caruana 2800
2. Ding 2799
3. Nepomniachtchi 2782
4. So 2778
5. Grischuk 2773
6. Firouzja 2770
7. Vachier-Lagrave 2763
8. Dominguez 2760
9. Anand 2753
10. Wang 2744 |
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Oct-01-21
 | | Messiah: Please create a list of players in even/odd birth years. And one with university degree vs no university degree. |
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Oct-01-21
| | beatgiant: <Messiah>
<even/odd birth years> Interesting request. Does this have something to do with agricultural cycles in the former USSR or something?Top 10 with even birth years:
1. Carlsen 2855 (1990)
2. Caruana 2800 (1992)
3. Ding 2799 (1992)
4-5. Aronian 2782 (1982)
4-5. Nepomniachtchi 2782 (1990)
6. Giri 2774 (1994)
7. Rapport 2770 (1996)
8. Vachier-Lagrave 2763 (1990)
9. Duda 2756 (1998)
10. Karjakin 2743 (1990)
Top 10 with odd birth years:
1. So 2778 (1993)
2. Grischuk 2773 (1983)
3. Firouzja 2770 (2003)
4. Mamedyarov 2765 (1985)
5. Radjabov 2763 (1987)
6. Dominguez Perez 2760 (1983)
7. Anand 2753 (1969)
8. Wang 2744 (1989)
9. Nakamura 2736 (1987)
10. Topalov 2730 (1975) |
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Oct-01-21
| | beatgiant: <Messiah>
<university degree vs no university degree>
We usually stick to things that are easily found in the FIDE profile. This particular request requires some pretty labor intensive and error prone research, and I can't guarantee the accuracy at all.But here's a quick attempt.
No university degree:
1. Carlsen 2855
2. Caruana 2800
3. Aronian 2782
4. So 2778
5. Giri 2774
6. Grischuk 2773
7-8. Firouzja 2770
7-8. Rapport 2770
9. Mamedyarov 2765
10. Radjabov 2763
Have university degree: *(I listed only those whose educational status I could quickly find. I very likely missed a few, and welcome any additions.) 1. Ding 2799 (Peking U. Law School)
2. Nepomniachtchi 2782 (Russian State Social U.) 3. Vachier-Lagrave 2763 (Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne) (Duda 2756, University School of Physical Education, Kraków but I can't quickly check whether he's graduated yet) 4. Anand 2753 (Loyola College, Chennai)
5. Wang 2744 (Peking U.)
6. Karjakin 2743 (Russian State Social U.)
(Wei Yi 2725, attending or has completed college but I can't quickly find any details) 7. Shankland 2714 (Brandeis)
(Alekseenko 2710, Peter the Great St. Petersburg Polytechnic University but I can't quickly check whether he's graduated yet) 8. Yu 2704 (Beijing Sports University)
9. Eljanov 2691 (Yaroslav the Wise Law Academy of Ukraine) 10. Korobov 2690 (U. of Kharkiv) |
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Oct-01-21
| | alexmagnus: <beatgiant> I like that "university degree" list! And thank you for providing the universities themselves :) |
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Oct-01-21
| | Messiah: <beatgiant> OMG you are amazing! Thank you very much! |
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Oct-01-21
| | beatgiant: Already I find I missed Le 2709 (Webster U.), and I also suspect Bu 2705 has a degree, but can't find any info. |
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Oct-02-21
| | beatgiant: I also see it reported that Aronian has a degree from Armenian State Institute of Physical Culture. |
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Oct-05-21
| | beatgiant: According to his Russian wikipedia page, Alekseenko has graduated. It's enough changes that I should post a corrected list now. |
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Oct-05-21
| | beatgiant: No university degree:
1. Carlsen 2855
2. Caruana 2800
3. So 2778
4. Giri 2774
5. Grischuk 2773
6-7. Firouzja 2770
6-7. Rapport 2770
8. Mamedyarov 2765
9. Radjabov 2763
10. Dominguez Perez 2760
Have university degree:
1. Ding 2799 (Peking U. Law School)
2-3. Aronian 2782 (Armenian State Institute of Physical Culture) 2-3. Nepomniachtchi 2782 (Russian State Social U.) 4. Vachier-Lagrave 2763 (Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne) (Duda 2756, University School of Physical Education, Kraków) 5. Anand 2753 (Loyola College, Chennai)
6. Wang 2744 (Peking U.)
7. Karjakin 2743 (Russian State Social U.)
(Wei Yi 2725)
8. Shankland 2714 (Brandeis U.)
9 Alekseenko 2710 (Peter the Great St. Petersburg Polytechnic U.) 10. Le 2709 (Webster U.)
11. Yu 2704 (Beijing Sports U.)
12. Eljanov 2691 (Yaroslav the Wise Law Academy of Ukraine) 13. Korobov 2690 (U. of Kharkiv) |
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Oct-05-21
| | beatgiant: I found a report that Duda graduated in 2020, so that makes him #5 on the graduates list and everyone beyond is bumped down a rank. |
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Nov-01-21
| | alexmagnus: November:
European Union:
1. Giri 2774
2. Firouzja 2770
3. Vachier-Lagrave 2766
4. Rapport 2763
5. Duda 2756
6. Topalov 2730
7. Vallejo 2704
8. Van Foreest 2701
9. Wojtaszek 2700
10. Navara 2699
Former Soviet Union:
1-2. Aronian 2782
1-2. Nepomniachtchi 2782
3. Grischuk 2773
4. Mamedyarov 2765
5. Radjabov 2763
6. Karjakin 2743
7. Vitiugov 2734
8. Andreikin 2724
9. Dubov 2714
10. Esipenko 2713
Former British Empire:
1. Caruana 2791
2. So 2772
3. Dominguez 2752
4. Anand 2751
5. Nakamura 2736
6. Vidit 2727
7. Harikrishna 2721
8. Adams 2714
9. Shankland 2708
10. Sadler 2694
Asia:
1. Ding 2799
2. Anand 2751
3. Wang 2744
4. Wei 2729
5. Vidit 2727
6. Harikrishna 2721
7. Le 2709
8. Maghsoodloo 2706
9. Yu 2704
10. Bu 2700
Born later than the world champion:
1. Ding 2799
2. Caruana 2791
3. Giri 2774
4. So 2772
5. Firouzja 2770
6. Rapport 2763
7. Duda 2756
8. Wei 2729
9. Vidit 2727
10. Dubov 2714
Nuclear powers:
1. Ding 2799
2. Caruana 2791
3. Nepomniachtchi 2782
4. Grischuk 2773
5. So 2772
6. Firouzja 2770
7. Vachier-Lagrave 2766
8. Dominguez 2752
9. Anand 2751
10. Wang 2744 |
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Nov-08-21
| | beatgiant: With Firouzja's win of the Grand Swiss, Arabic script makes it into the Candidates for the first time*. *(Actually, due to the multicultural nature of human existence, I had to make a lot of judgement calls about which script to consider native for certain names. In particular, what's the native script of Azerbaijani names? Arabic script is traditional, while Latin, Cyrillic and Arabic are all in use today. But I hesitate to post a deep dive into the question and risk boring my fellow kibitzers even more than usual. For my lists above, I assumed Latin script.) |
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Nov-08-21
| | beatgiant: Maybe it would work if I put the explanation in a catchy song. (to the tune of "Istanbul, not Constantinople")
Azerbaijani used Arabic script,
Now it's Latin script, not Arabic,
Been a long time gone, Arabic script,
Now it's shekerbura on a moonlit night.
Every gal in Sumqayit
Writes her name in Latin script,
So if you write a note to a gal in Sumqayit,
You better write her name in Latin script.
Even from Latin script they once changed to Cyrillic,
Why'd they change it I can't say,
Stalin just liked it better that way.
So write Radjabov's name in Arabic script,
No you can't write his name in Arabic script,
Been a long time gone, Arabic script,
Why did Arabic script get buried?
That's nobody's business but the Azeris'. |
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Nov-15-21
| | alexmagnus: I put the queston in the opening's page already but I also repeat it here for the readers of my forum: Does anyone know where the name of the Forgotten Variation of the Marshall Gambit came from? Why is it forgotten? By whom? Please no punny answers :). I seriously want to know it, the name is so unusual. |
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Nov-15-21
 | | diceman: I've never heard, but my guess would be that it's rare. Rare = not used = forgotten. |
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Nov-16-21
| | alexmagnus: Still, there must be some context in which the term was first coined. And it must have been notable enough that it got stuck as the "official" name of the variation. For most bizarre opening names finding the source of the name is easy. The Forgotten Variation... not so. Also, it seems that the name "Forgotten Variation" is used in English language publications and media only. At least searches in German and Russian showed no knowledge of such a variation. So, I guess the source was some English language remark somewhere. |
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Dec-01-21
| | alexmagnus: December:
European Union:
1. Firouzja 2804
2. Giri 2772
3. Rapport 2763
4. Vachier-Lagrave 2761
5. Duda 2760
6. Topalov 2730
7-8. Shirov 2704
7-8. Vallejo 2704
9. Van Foreest 2702
10. Navara 2697
Former Soviet Union:
1. Nepomniachtchi 2782
2. Aronian 2772
3. Mamedyarov 2767
4. Grischuk 2764
5. Radjabov 2753
6. Karjakin 2743
7. Vitiugov 2731
8. Andreikin 2724
9. Dubov 2720
10. Esipenko 2714
Former British Empire:
1. Caruana 2792
2. So 2772
3. Dominguez 2752
4. Anand 2751
5. Vidit 2727
6. Harikrishna 2717
7. Shankland 2708
8. Adams 2700
9. Sadler 2694
10. Salem 2690
Asia:
1. Ding 2799
2. Anand 2751
3. Wang 2744
4. Wei 2729
5. Vidit 2727
6. Harikrishna 2717
7. Yu 2713
8. Le 2709
9. Maghsoodloo 2701
10. Bu 2700
Born later than the world champion:
1. Firouzja 2804
2. Ding 2799
3. Caruana 2792
4-5. Giri 2772
4-5. So 2772
6. Rapport 2763
7. Duda 2760
8. Wei 2729
9. Vidit 2727
10. Dubov 2720
Nuclear powers:
1. Firouzja 2804
2. Ding 2799
3. Caruana 2792
4. Nepomniachtchi 2782
5. So 2772
6. Grischuk 2764
7. Vachier-Lagrave 2761
8. Dominguez 2752
9. Anand 2751
10. Wang 2744 |
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Jan-02-22
| | alexmagnus: January:
European Union:
1. Firouzja 2804
2. Giri 2772
3. Rapport 2763
4. Vachier-Lagrave 2761
5. Duda 2760
6. Topalov 2730
7-8. Shirov 2704
7-8. Vallejo 2704
9. Van Foreest 2702
10. Navara 2697
Former Soviet Union:
1. Nepomniachtchi 2773
2. Mamedyarov 2767
3. Grischuk 2764
4. Radjabov 2753
5. Karjakin 2743
6. Vitiugov 2736
7. Andreikin 2724
8. Dubov 2720
9. Esipenko 2714
10. Tomashevsky 2708
Former British Empire:
1. Caruana 2792
2-3. Aronian 2772
2-3. So 2772
4. Dominguez 2752
5. Anand 2751
6. Vidit 2727
7. Harikrishna 2717
8. Shankland 2708
9. Adams 2698
10. Sadler 2694
Asia:
1. Ding 2799
2. Anand 2751
3. Wang 2744
4. Wei 2729
5. Vidit 2727
6. Harikrishna 2717
7. Yu 2713
8. Le 2709
9. Maghsoodloo 2701
10. Bu 2700
Born later than the world champion:
1. Firouzja 2804
2. Ding 2799
3. Caruana 2792
4-5. Giri 2772
4-5. So 2772
6. Rapport 2763
7. Duda 2760
8. Wei 2729
9. Vidit 2727
10. Dubov 2720
Nuclear powers:
1. Firouzja 2804
2. Ding 2799
3. Caruana 2792
4. Nepomniachtchi 2773
5-6. Aronian 2772
5-6. So 2772
7. Grischuk 2764
8. Vachier-Lagrave 2761
9. Dominguez 2752
10. Anand 2751 |
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